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I added a size comparison and a gallery to put it in. I hope this is within Halopedia's standards...? {{Unsigned|Novateamone}} | I added a size comparison and a gallery to put it in. I hope this is within Halopedia's standards...? {{Unsigned|Novateamone}} | ||
:Since there are no official images of a Greater Ark, to my knowledge, I would deduce that this is a fan-created comparison. More likely than not, we can't use it because it uses unverified information, and may be misleading - where does anything say a Greater Ark have only six arms, for example? Or is that big? -- [[User:Specops306|<b><font color=indigo>Specops306</font></b>]] [[halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>Qur'a 'Morhek</sup></font></i></u>]] 23:56, 20 April 2012 (EDT) | :Since there are no official images of a Greater Ark, to my knowledge, I would deduce that this is a fan-created comparison. More likely than not, we can't use it because it uses unverified information, and may be misleading - where does anything say a Greater Ark have only six arms, for example? Or is that big? -- [[User:Specops306|<b><font color=indigo>Specops306</font></b>]] [[w:c:halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>Qur'a 'Morhek</sup></font></i></u>]] 23:56, 20 April 2012 (EDT) | ||
^Check the references. [[User:Tuckerscreator|<span style="color:#6600cc;">'''''Tuckerscreator'''''</span>]]<sup>([[User talk:Tuckerscreator|<font color="#008000">stalk</font>]])</sup> 00:27, 21 April 2012 (EDT) | ^Check the references. [[User:Tuckerscreator|<span style="color:#6600cc;">'''''Tuckerscreator'''''</span>]]<sup>([[User talk:Tuckerscreator|<font color="#008000">stalk</font>]])</sup> 00:27, 21 April 2012 (EDT) | ||
:Never mind I am a blind person with no eyes. :P -- [[User:Specops306|<b><font color=indigo>Specops306</font></b>]] [[halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>Qur'a 'Morhek</sup></font></i></u>]] 02:23, 21 April 2012 (EDT) | :Never mind I am a blind person with no eyes. :P -- [[User:Specops306|<b><font color=indigo>Specops306</font></b>]] [[w:c:halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>Qur'a 'Morhek</sup></font></i></u>]] 02:23, 21 April 2012 (EDT) | ||
:Despite the factual basis, I'd still argue the image is too speculative. The caption acknowledges it's "estimated", yes, but how much do we really know about the greater Ark? It's not exactly described in detail, so the proportions might be entirely different than those of Installation 00. Everything that matters is already described in the article and people should be able to make their own conclusions based on that alone. --[[User:Jugus|<font color="MidnightBlue"><b>Jugus</b></font>]] <small>([[User talk:Jugus|<font color="Gray">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jugus|<font color="Gray">Contribs</font>]])</small> 12:33, 22 April 2012 (EDT) | :Despite the factual basis, I'd still argue the image is too speculative. The caption acknowledges it's "estimated", yes, but how much do we really know about the greater Ark? It's not exactly described in detail, so the proportions might be entirely different than those of Installation 00. Everything that matters is already described in the article and people should be able to make their own conclusions based on that alone. --[[User:Jugus|<font color="MidnightBlue"><b>Jugus</b></font>]] <small>([[User talk:Jugus|<font color="Gray">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jugus|<font color="Gray">Contribs</font>]])</small> 12:33, 22 April 2012 (EDT) | ||
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:I think it's extremely well done, and an exception should be made to allow it to stay. Surely we can simply be very clear it's fan made. [[User talk:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 19:16, 22 April 2012 (EDT) | :I think it's extremely well done, and an exception should be made to allow it to stay. Surely we can simply be very clear it's fan made. [[User talk:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 19:16, 22 April 2012 (EDT) | ||
::Still the image is too speculative. As per Jugus, we have enough of a description to where readers can make their own conclusions solely based on that alone.-- '''''[[User:Spartacus|<span style="color: olivedrab; font-family: Bradley Hand ITC; font-size: 12pt;">'''Col. Spartacus'''</span>]]''' <sup>[[User talk:Spartacus|<font color="Black">'''Talk Page'''</font>]]</sup> <sub>[[Special:Contributions/Spartacus|<font color="Black">Contributions</font>]]''</sub> 19:25, 22 April 2012 (EDT) | ::Still the image is too speculative. As per Jugus, we have enough of a description to where readers can make their own conclusions solely based on that alone.--[[File:Gravemind.svg|20px]] '''''[[User:Spartacus|<span style="color: olivedrab; font-family: Bradley Hand ITC; font-size: 12pt;">'''Col. Spartacus'''</span>]]''' <sup>[[User talk:Spartacus|<font color="Black">'''Talk Page'''</font>]]</sup> <sub>[[Special:Contributions/Spartacus|<font color="Black">Contributions</font>]]''</sub> 19:25, 22 April 2012 (EDT) | ||
::I agree it's well done, especially the updated one, but that's not really the issue. The thing is, there's a chance images like these might give some people the wrong idea that it's an official representation, regardless of whether we acknowledge it's "estimated" or not. And again, the novel didn't offer a very specific description of the structure - whether it's just an outright scaled-up Installation 00 with six arms, or if there are more major differences, like the proportions or length of the arms or the central disk. --[[User:Jugus|<font color="MidnightBlue"><b>Jugus</b></font>]] <small>([[User talk:Jugus|<font color="Gray">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jugus|<font color="Gray">Contribs</font>]])</small> 01:15, 23 April 2012 (EDT) | ::I agree it's well done, especially the updated one, but that's not really the issue. The thing is, there's a chance images like these might give some people the wrong idea that it's an official representation, regardless of whether we acknowledge it's "estimated" or not. And again, the novel didn't offer a very specific description of the structure - whether it's just an outright scaled-up Installation 00 with six arms, or if there are more major differences, like the proportions or length of the arms or the central disk. --[[User:Jugus|<font color="MidnightBlue"><b>Jugus</b></font>]] <small>([[User talk:Jugus|<font color="Gray">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jugus|<font color="Gray">Contribs</font>]])</small> 01:15, 23 April 2012 (EDT) | ||