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I suggest toning down the stuff about evolution, as it seems as though the Forerunners may have had something to do with it. --[[User:Dragonclaws|Dragonclaws]] 09:06, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
I suggest toning down the stuff about evolution, as it seems as though the Forerunners may have had something to do with it. --[[User:Dragonclaws|Dragonclaws]] 09:06, 3 October 2006 (UTC)


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Well to be percise the overall Gravity is 0.99732 G and for cacluation purposes in velocity it is 9.8ms<sup>-1</sup>
Well to be percise the overall Gravity is 0.99732 G and for cacluation purposes in velocity it is 9.8ms<sup>-1</sup>
Sub-71 19:57, 9 Feburary 2009
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Are you even sure Global Warming is the reason thats because they're there? [[User:Dandarro nahan|<span style="color:red;">Happyhobo-117</span>]]
Are you even sure Global Warming is the reason thats because they're there? [[User:Dandarro nahan|<span style="color:red;">Happyhobo-117</span>]]


I have a picture:  
I have a picture: [[File:100641813-Full.jpg|thumb]]
82,7% CO2?--[[User:DerPete|DerPete]] <sup><small> [[User Talk:DerPete|Talk]]</small></sup> 22:31, November 10, 2009 (UTC)
82,7% CO2?--[[User:DerPete|DerPete]] <sup><small> [[User Talk:DerPete|Talk]]</small></sup> 22:31, November 10, 2009 (UTC)
::Heh...I wouldn't take that CO2 count as evidence of anything but laziness on Bungie's part. The stats on that NMPD board are nipped from a graphic in the Elephant on the Halo 3 map Sandtrap, indicating the atmosphere of THAT planet. Earth's values are not accurate here. -[[User:ScaleMaster117|ScaleMaster117]] ([[User talk:ScaleMaster117|talk]]) 07:16, 24 October 2013 (EDT)
:You know, the Earth as seen in summer of 2557 (the article's main image at the time of this comment) depicts ice covering the entirety of the Great Lakes region and creeping down as far as about Nebraska, not to mention almost completely engulfing Canada. It might really be that they're trying to insinuate a global climate change scenario. --File:PENGUIN4.gif|15px]]''[[User:FluffyEmoPenguin|<span style="color:black; font-family:Verdana">Fluffy</span><span style="color:gray; font-family:Verdana">Emo</span><span style="color:black; font-family:Verdana">Penguin</span>]]<sup><small>([[User talk:FluffyEmoPenguin|<span style="color:gray">ice quack!</span>]])''</small></sup> 09:55, 18 December 2013 (EST)
As per the [[Midnight]] page, under '''Mistakes''': "While this level takes place in July, one can clearly see snow covering the URNA's northern region, primarily [[Canada]]. This is likely a developer oversight, and not the result of climate change, as the Earth's [[wikipedia:Terminator (solar)|terminator line]] is also entirely inconsistent with the summer months. In July, the terminator runs Northwest to Southeast across North America in the morning, with the far Northern regions experiencing 24-hour sunlight. In-game the terminator is running Northeast to Southwest with the North Pole bathed in shadow, a phenomenon which only occurs in winter."--[[File:Emblem 1.jpg|20px|bottom]][[User:Rusty-112|<span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:13pt;color:blue;">''' Rusty'''</span><span style="font-size:13pt;color:red;">'''-'''</span><span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:13pt;color:blue;">'''112'''</span>]] [[Halopedia:Administrators|<span style="color:red; font-family:Arial">'''''Admin'''''</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Rusty-112|<font color="blue">'''comm'''</font>]]</sup> 12:30, 18 December 2013 (EST)


== Other locations ==
== Other locations ==
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:I agree, I've undone it a few times now. It's established that there are only 200 million humans left, end of story. Anyone who changes it to 12 billion again will face my wrath (not really, but I will be annoyed). [[User:The 888th Avatar|<span style="color:blue;">The 888th Avatar</span>]] [[User_talk:The 888th Avatar|<sup><span style="color:blue;">(Talk)</span></sup>]] 06:19, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
:I agree, I've undone it a few times now. It's established that there are only 200 million humans left, end of story. Anyone who changes it to 12 billion again will face my wrath (not really, but I will be annoyed). [[User:The 888th Avatar|<span style="color:blue;">The 888th Avatar</span>]] [[User_talk:The 888th Avatar|<sup><span style="color:blue;">(Talk)</span></sup>]] 06:19, 4 March 2009 (UTC)


::I concur. Reverting it is getting tiresome, and the figure is just plain ''wrong''. I don't know where they got it, but they might just find themselves standing inside a ban=shaped shadow soon. --<b>CoH|<font color=purple>Councillor</font>]]</b> <b>[[User:Specops306|<font color=blue> Specops</font>]]UserWiki:Specops306|<font color=blue>306</font>]] - <i>[[User Talk:Specops306|<font color=purple>Qur'a</font>]] [[halofanon:Operation:_HOT_GATES|<font color=purple>'Morhek</font>]]</i></b> 06:44, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
::I concur. Reverting it is getting tiresome, and the figure is just plain ''wrong''. I don't know where they got it, but they might just find themselves standing inside a ban=shaped shadow soon. --<b>[[CoH|<font color=purple>Councillor</font>]]</b> <b>[[User:Specops306|<font color=blue> Specops</font>]][[UserWiki:Specops306|<font color=blue>306</font>]] - <i>[[User Talk:Specops306|<font color=purple>Qur'a</font>]] [[w:c:halofanon:Operation:_HOT_GATES|<font color=purple>'Morhek</font>]]</i></b> 06:44, 4 March 2009 (UTC)


:::...And it was changed again. SERIOUSLY. [[User:The 888th Avatar|<span style="color:blue;">The 888th Avatar</span>]] [[User_talk:The 888th Avatar|<sup><span style="color:blue;">(Talk)</span></sup>]] 09:30, 8 March 2009 (UTC)
:::...And it was changed again. SERIOUSLY. [[User:The 888th Avatar|<span style="color:blue;">The 888th Avatar</span>]] [[User_talk:The 888th Avatar|<sup><span style="color:blue;">(Talk)</span></sup>]] 09:30, 8 March 2009 (UTC)
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First of all, try to work on your coherency. I can hardly tell what you're talking about, jumping from one point to another, and with spelling a six-year-old would cringe at. Second of all, the population figure is CANON. Why the hell does nobody want to accept the Bestiarum figure as canon? Its all there, black and white, clear as crystal. Humanity is nearly extinct, why is it so hard to understand?!
First of all, try to work on your coherency. I can hardly tell what you're talking about, jumping from one point to another, and with spelling a six-year-old would cringe at. Second of all, the population figure is CANON. Why the hell does nobody want to accept the Bestiarum figure as canon? Its all there, black and white, clear as crystal. Humanity is nearly extinct, why is it so hard to understand?!


As for your idea on the battle of Earth, the Covenant arrived with a much larger fleet. The First Battle of Earth left the Navy in a damaged state, but they still managed to bring down a good portion of Truth's advance fleet before being annihilated. Don't forget the three hundred Orbital Defence Platforms, which were still online after Regret jumped away from Earth. Afterwards, the Covenant invaded a number of areas - Australia, North America, Antarctica - looking for relics, but pulled out of everywhere except Cleveland when they found the Portal. Afterwards, the bombarded the planet from orbit where neccessary before settling in Africa. -- <b>[[Halopedia:Administrators|<font color=indigo>Administrator</font>]] [[User:Specops306|<font color=indigo>Specops306</font>]] - ''[[User Talk:Specops306|<font color=blue>Qur'a 'Morhek</font>]]'' <sup>''[[halofanon:Operation: HOT GATES|<u><font color=purple>Honour Light Your Way!</font></u>]]''</sup></b> 22:50, 20 August 2009 (UTC)
As for your idea on the battle of Earth, the Covenant arrived with a much larger fleet. The First Battle of Earth left the Navy in a damaged state, but they still managed to bring down a good portion of Truth's advance fleet before being annihilated. Don't forget the three hundred Orbital Defence Platforms, which were still online after Regret jumped away from Earth. Afterwards, the Covenant invaded a number of areas - Australia, North America, Antarctica - looking for relics, but pulled out of everywhere except Cleveland when they found the Portal. Afterwards, the bombarded the planet from orbit where neccessary before settling in Africa. -- <b>[[Halopedia:Administrators|<font color=indigo>Administrator</font>]] [[User:Specops306|<font color=indigo>Specops306</font>]] - ''[[User Talk:Specops306|<font color=blue>Qur'a 'Morhek</font>]]'' <sup>''[[w:c:halofanon:Operation: HOT GATES|<u><font color=purple>Honour Light Your Way!</font></u>]]''</sup></b> 22:50, 20 August 2009 (UTC)


== I respectfully disagree. ==
== I respectfully disagree. ==
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- Katsuhiro
- Katsuhiro


You're assuming that there are still refugees out there waiting to be relocated. Sigma Octanus had a population of 13 million, and that was regarded as an "Inner" Colony - how many other planets like that are left? And let us not forget that the Covenant bombarded much of the planet from orbit when Truth's fleet arrived. I'm also not entirely sure what your point is about medicine, life expectancy and birth rate - those factors don't affect the ''current'' population of 200 million, only its increase in the future. Likewise, I don't recall anyone mentioning that only one continent was left - as far as I'm aware, Europe, Asia, North and South America, Australasia, Africa, and Antarctica are all still there, though certainly the worse for wear. -- <b>[[Halopedia:Administrators|<font color=indigo>Administrator</font>]] [[User:Specops306|<font color=indigo>Specops306</font>]] - ''[[User Talk:Specops306|<font color=blue>Qur'a 'Morhek</font>]]'' <sup>''[[halofanon:Operation: HOT GATES|<u><font color=purple>Honour Light Your Way!</font></u>]]''</sup></b> 00:09, September 9, 2009 (UTC)
You're assuming that there are still refugees out there waiting to be relocated. Sigma Octanus had a population of 13 million, and that was regarded as an "Inner" Colony - how many other planets like that are left? And let us not forget that the Covenant bombarded much of the planet from orbit when Truth's fleet arrived. I'm also not entirely sure what your point is about medicine, life expectancy and birth rate - those factors don't affect the ''current'' population of 200 million, only its increase in the future. Likewise, I don't recall anyone mentioning that only one continent was left - as far as I'm aware, Europe, Asia, North and South America, Australasia, Africa, and Antarctica are all still there, though certainly the worse for wear. -- <b>[[Halopedia:Administrators|<font color=indigo>Administrator</font>]] [[User:Specops306|<font color=indigo>Specops306</font>]] - ''[[User Talk:Specops306|<font color=blue>Qur'a 'Morhek</font>]]'' <sup>''[[w:c:halofanon:Operation: HOT GATES|<u><font color=purple>Honour Light Your Way!</font></u>]]''</sup></b> 00:09, September 9, 2009 (UTC)


Sigma Ocatnus loss 300,000 out of it's 17 million. It is still heavly populated as it was not bombarded. Not to mention FoR says the Covenant blew past many colonies on there way to Reach, which means those colonies remain since they got Earth next.
Sigma Ocatnus loss 300,000 out of it's 17 million. It is still heavly populated as it was not bombarded. Not to mention FoR says the Covenant blew past many colonies on there way to Reach, which means those colonies remain since they got Earth next.
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Just out of curiosity, when R'tas and The Arbiter are speaking at the end of Halo 3, did it not show a hologram of Earth, whole, not glowing, and unglassed?[[User talk:Toasterstrudel64|Toasterstrudel64]] 23:03, October 2, 2010 (UTC)
Just out of curiosity, when R'tas and The Arbiter are speaking at the end of Halo 3, did it not show a hologram of Earth, whole, not glowing, and unglassed?[[User talk:Toasterstrudel64|Toasterstrudel64]] 23:03, October 2, 2010 (UTC)


Glassing and bombardment are not the same thing. Glassing reduced vast areas into molten rock and stone. The Covenant merely blasted many cities and population centres, as well as invading with infantry, armour and aircraft, slaughtering many in combat. The only part of Earth which we know to be "glassed" in the traditional sense was part of East Africa, but that doesn't mean the rest of the planet got off scot free. -- [[User:Specops306|<b><font color=indigo>Specops306</font></b>]] [[halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>Qur'a 'Morhek</sup></font></i></u>]] 04:52, October 3, 2010 (UTC)
Glassing and bombardment are not the same thing. Glassing reduced vast areas into molten rock and stone. The Covenant merely blasted many cities and population centres, as well as invading with infantry, armour and aircraft, slaughtering many in combat. The only part of Earth which we know to be "glassed" in the traditional sense was part of East Africa, but that doesn't mean the rest of the planet got off scot free. -- [[User:Specops306|<b><font color=indigo>Specops306</font></b>]] [[w:c:halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>Qur'a 'Morhek</sup></font></i></u>]] 04:52, October 3, 2010 (UTC)


== The Earth looks nice and clean at the end of Halo 3 (& the Beastarium) ==
== The Earth looks nice and clean at the end of Halo 3 (& the Beastarium) ==
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Could anybody add more of the asian history?
Could anybody add more of the asian history?


:No. Asian history is not relevant unless it specifically relates to Halo.--[[File:Emblem 1.jpg|20px]][[User:Rusty-112|<font color="Blue">'''Rusty'''</font>]][[User:Rusty-112|<font color="Red">'''-'''</font>]]UserWiki:Rusty-112|<font color="Blue">'''112'''</font>]] 20:06, November 27, 2009 (UTC)
:No. Asian history is not relevant unless it specifically relates to Halo.--[[File:Emblem 1.jpg|20px]][[User:Rusty-112|<font color="Blue">'''Rusty'''</font>]][[User:Rusty-112|<font color="Red">'''-'''</font>]][[UserWiki:Rusty-112|<font color="Blue">'''112'''</font>]] 20:06, November 27, 2009 (UTC)


== Erde-Tyrene a name for binary planet? ==
== Erde-Tyrene a name for binary planet? ==


Scientists often informally refer to Earth and the Moon as a double or binary planet, or the "Earth-Moon" system. It would make sense for the Forerunners to refer to it as "Erde-Tyrene" with "Erde" being Earth and "Tyrene" being Luna. Is this a good enough assumption to be considered canon?--File:PENGUIN4.gif|15px]]''[[User:FluffyEmoPenguin|<span style="color:black; font-family:Verdana">Fluffy</span><span style="color:gray; font-family:Verdana">Emo</span><span style="color:black; font-family:Verdana">Penguin</span>]]<sup><small>([[User talk:FluffyEmoPenguin|<span style="color:gray">ice quack!</span>]])''</small></sup> 14:55, 14 January 2011 (EST)
Scientists often informally refer to Earth and the Moon as a double or binary planet, or the "Earth-Moon" system. It would make sense for the Forerunners to refer to it as "Erde-Tyrene" with "Erde" being Earth and "Tyrene" being Luna. Is this a good enough assumption to be considered canon?--[[Image:PENGUIN4.gif|15px]]''[[User:FluffyEmoPenguin|<span style="color:black; font-family:Verdana">Fluffy</span><span style="color:gray; font-family:Verdana">Emo</span><span style="color:black; font-family:Verdana">Penguin</span>]]<sup><small>([[User talk:FluffyEmoPenguin|<span style="color:gray">ice quack!</span>]])''</small></sup> 14:55, 14 January 2011 (EST)


:Mars has two moons and it didn't have a triple-barrelled-name, so no.-- [[User talk:Forerunner|Forerunner]] 15:32, 14 January 2011 (EST)
:Mars has two moons and it didn't have a triple-barrelled-name, so no.-- [[User talk:Forerunner|Forerunner]] 15:32, 14 January 2011 (EST)


::Mars's moons are hardly even considered moons. They aren't significant enough to be named in conjunction with Mars. Mars to begin with isn't even that important of a planet compared to Earth.--File:PENGUIN4.gif|15px]]''[[User:FluffyEmoPenguin|<span style="color:black; font-family:Verdana">Fluffy</span><span style="color:gray; font-family:Verdana">Emo</span><span style="color:black; font-family:Verdana">Penguin</span>]]<sup><small>([[User talk:FluffyEmoPenguin|<span style="color:gray">ice quack!</span>]])''</small></sup> 18:56, 11 March 2011 (EST)
::Mars's moons are hardly even considered moons. They aren't significant enough to be named in conjunction with Mars. Mars to begin with isn't even that important of a planet compared to Earth.--[[Image:PENGUIN4.gif|15px]]''[[User:FluffyEmoPenguin|<span style="color:black; font-family:Verdana">Fluffy</span><span style="color:gray; font-family:Verdana">Emo</span><span style="color:black; font-family:Verdana">Penguin</span>]]<sup><small>([[User talk:FluffyEmoPenguin|<span style="color:gray">ice quack!</span>]])''</small></sup> 18:56, 11 March 2011 (EST)


There's still Jupiter and Saturn, not to mention all the other planets. It would be annoying to give Jupiter 33-barreled name, and yes Mars's satellites are indeed moons. [[User:Tuckerscreator|<span style="color:#6600cc;">'''''Tuckerscreator'''''</span>]]<sup>([[User talk:Tuckerscreator|<font color="#008000">stalk</font>]])</sup> 19:45, 11 March 2011 (EST)
There's still Jupiter and Saturn, not to mention all the other planets. It would be annoying to give Jupiter 33-barreled name, and yes Mars's satellites are indeed moons. [[User:Tuckerscreator|<span style="color:#6600cc;">'''''Tuckerscreator'''''</span>]]<sup>([[User talk:Tuckerscreator|<font color="#008000">stalk</font>]])</sup> 19:45, 11 March 2011 (EST)
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Does any one else agree that earth in the Haloverse isn't humanities home planet? At least one of the humans that had faught the Forerunners believed that they had estimated the wrong planet. I beleive it is the wrong planet simply because of the natural resources that takes longer then 100,000 years to 'grow'. Plus if there had been a civilization that had reached muilti-stellar system empire level wouldn't they have cleaned out most of those resources on their home planet? They should've just looked for the oldest human planet with the oldest mines/deepest mines on it. With hardly any resources left. That's my thought on the matter anyway. What are some other thoughts? Disagreements or agreements? [[User talk:TLLorax|TLLorax]] 05:30, 10 September 2012 (EDT)
Does any one else agree that earth in the Haloverse isn't humanities home planet? At least one of the humans that had faught the Forerunners believed that they had estimated the wrong planet. I beleive it is the wrong planet simply because of the natural resources that takes longer then 100,000 years to 'grow'. Plus if there had been a civilization that had reached muilti-stellar system empire level wouldn't they have cleaned out most of those resources on their home planet? They should've just looked for the oldest human planet with the oldest mines/deepest mines on it. With hardly any resources left. That's my thought on the matter anyway. What are some other thoughts? Disagreements or agreements? [[User talk:TLLorax|TLLorax]] 05:30, 10 September 2012 (EDT)


:I don't know what you mean by the "natural resources that takes longer than 100,000 years to grow" part. I think you're referring to the consumption of natural resources - what makes you think ancient humans would have consumed ALL of them before moving on? 100,000 years is a long time for signs of mining or other material processing to be destroyed by the elements, or removed by the Forerunners. What does that have to do with our origins here? As for the inter-stellar empire part, I think of it in terms of Battlestar Galactica - in that universe, humans originated on Kobol, but had to flee to the Twelve Colonies, losing the knowledge of their original homeworld except through myth and lore. By the time the series starts, nobody really believes it even exists. It's not hard to see something very similar happening here - that ancient humanity had to leave Earth, and lost the knowledge of their own history due to some cataclysm, only to rediscover it on the verge of their defeat by the Forerunners. -- [[User:Specops306|<b><font color=indigo>Specops306</font></b>]] [[halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>Qur'a 'Morhek</sup></font></i></u>]] 06:19, 10 September 2012 (EDT)
:I don't know what you mean by the "natural resources that takes longer than 100,000 years to grow" part. I think you're referring to the consumption of natural resources - what makes you think ancient humans would have consumed ALL of them before moving on? 100,000 years is a long time for signs of mining or other material processing to be destroyed by the elements, or removed by the Forerunners. What does that have to do with our origins here? As for the inter-stellar empire part, I think of it in terms of Battlestar Galactica - in that universe, humans originated on Kobol, but had to flee to the Twelve Colonies, losing the knowledge of their original homeworld except through myth and lore. By the time the series starts, nobody really believes it even exists. It's not hard to see something very similar happening here - that ancient humanity had to leave Earth, and lost the knowledge of their own history due to some cataclysm, only to rediscover it on the verge of their defeat by the Forerunners. -- [[User:Specops306|<b><font color=indigo>Specops306</font></b>]] [[w:c:halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>Qur'a 'Morhek</sup></font></i></u>]] 06:19, 10 September 2012 (EDT)


== Page lock ==
== Page lock ==
I don't think the page needs to be locked just because one vandal decided to have some fun. It wasn't really an edit war either; we just undid the vandal's edits; it was more of article patrolling rather than an edit war. <span style="font-family:Lucida Console; font-weight:bold;">[[User:Vadske|<span style="color:#000;">vadske</span>]]@[[User talk:Vadske|<span style="color:#000;">halopedia</span>]]</span> 21:39, 29 November 2012 (EST)
I don't think the page needs to be locked just because one vandal decided to have some fun. It wasn't really an edit war either; we just undid the vandal's edits; it was more of article patrolling rather than an edit war. [[User talk:Vadske|Vadske]] 21:37, 29 November 2012 (EST)
:I wouldn't call what he was doing to the article as vandalism. I'm assuming good faith here. As such, this page has had a history of edit warring over the population numbers, and will remain protected for the duration of the lock to prevent further unneeded edits.--{{User:Spartacus/Sig}} 21:44, 29 November 2012 (EST)
 
==Infobox Main Image==
File:H4-Midnight-Earth-Screen-crop.jpg|right|100px]]
File:H4-Midnight-Earth-Extraction.png|right|100px]]
Hey, would it be best if the main infobox image were changed to something more recent? I have just uploaded a [[:File:H4-Midnight-Earth-Screen-crop.jpg|couple]] [[:File:H4-Midnight-Earth-Extraction.png|image]]s that I think just might serve as a better image, one or the other. Does anybody else agree with this suggestion? --'''''[[User:Xamikaze330|<span style="color:Black; font-family: Halo;">Xamikaze330</span>]]''''' <small>['''''[[User talk:Xamikaze330|<font color="Blue">Transmission</font>]]'''''|'''''[[Special:Contributions/Xamikaze330|<font color="Green">Commencing</font>]]''''']</small> 16:42, 18 October 2013 (EDT)Xamikaze330
:Has anybody been paying attention? The images are from the latest ''Halo'' game, ''Halo 4''. Do any of you think one of these would make a better image? --'''''[[User:Xamikaze330|<span style="color:Black; font-family: Halo;">Xamikaze330</span>]]''''' <small>['''''[[User talk:Xamikaze330|<font color="Blue">Transmission</font>]]'''''|'''''[[Special:Contributions/Xamikaze330|<font color="Green">Commencing</font>]]''''']</small> 05:21, 24 October 2013 (EDT)Xamikaze330
 
::If it does get changed, I'd prefer the non-cutout one and I'd also prefer it was rotated 90 degrees counter-clockwise. Earth has a defined 'up' and 'down'. No need to see it from the trajectory angle of the Didact's ship when the focus of the picture is Earth for Earth's sake. -[[User:ScaleMaster117|ScaleMaster117]] ([[User talk:ScaleMaster117|talk]]) 07:12, 24 October 2013 (EDT)
 
::What he said. [[User:Tuckerscreator|<span style="color:#6600cc;">'''''Tuckerscreator'''''</span>]]<sup>([[User talk:Tuckerscreator|<font color="#008000">stalk</font>]])</sup> 08:16, 24 October 2013 (EDT)
 
:::I'm kind of curious why we were using an image from the [[Halo 2 announcement trailer]].[[User:Sith Venator|<span style="color:green">Sith-venator Wavingstrider</span>]] [[File:Fett helmet.jpg|20px]] ([[User talk:Sith Venator|<span style="color:blue">Commlink</span>]])
 
::::Not sure either. It is a fairly old image. Anyway, I did just rotate the images. Of course I knew the non-extracted image would be the first choice. Since when do we extracted planet images as the infobox picture? If they don't look rotated, try refreshing your browser. What do the Halopedia staff have to say? Any objections from them? --'''''[[User:Xamikaze330|<span style="color:Black; font-family: Halo;">Xamikaze330</span>]]''''' <small>['''''[[User talk:Xamikaze330|<font color="Blue">Transmission</font>]]'''''|'''''[[Special:Contributions/Xamikaze330|<font color="Green">Commencing</font>]]''''']</small> 10:18, 24 October 2013 (EDT)Xamikaze330
 
:(''reset indent'') Oh, wait, my bad. Forgot Tuckerscreator is an admin. But I'd still like to hear if there any further concerns or objections before I make the change (or if someone beats me to it). --'''''[[User:Xamikaze330|<span style="color:Black; font-family: Halo;">Xamikaze330</span>]]''''' <small>['''''[[User talk:Xamikaze330|<font color="Blue">Transmission</font>]]'''''|'''''[[Special:Contributions/Xamikaze330|<font color="Green">Commencing</font>]]''''']</small> 10:49, 24 October 2013 (EDT)Xamikaze330
::I'll go with what ScaleMaster an Tucker said.--{{User:Spartacus/Sig}} 11:29, 24 October 2013 (EDT)
 
:::Has everybody noticed that I rotated the images? I hope they look a little better now. The original is a little hard to edit though. --'''''[[User:Xamikaze330|<span style="color:Black; font-family: Halo;">Xamikaze330</span>]]''''' <small>['''''[[User talk:Xamikaze330|<font color="Blue">Transmission</font>]]'''''|'''''[[Special:Contributions/Xamikaze330|<font color="Green">Commencing</font>]]''''']</small> 11:38, 24 October 2013 (EDT)Xamikaze330
 
:Hello? Is anyone there? Do the images look more suitable now that I've rotated them? --'''''[[User:Xamikaze330|<span style="color:Black; font-family: Halo;">Xamikaze330</span>]]''''' <small>['''''[[User talk:Xamikaze330|<font color="Blue">Transmission</font>]]'''''|'''''[[Special:Contributions/Xamikaze330|<font color="Green">Commencing</font>]]''''']</small> 18:01, 28 October 2013 (EDT)Xamikaze330
 
It's improved, but still at a funny angle. North is still not 'up'. I'll see if I can get the actual game asset. I can custom rotate it if I can. Maybe even use the star backdrop too. -[[User:ScaleMaster117|ScaleMaster117]] ([[User talk:ScaleMaster117|talk]]) 18:25, 28 October 2013 (EDT)
 
:Do what you can. It's about frakkin' time that the Earth screenshot from the old Halo 2 announcement trailer be removed as the infobox image. --'''''[[User:Xamikaze330|<span style="color:Black; font-family: Halo;">Xamikaze330</span>]]''''' <small>['''''[[User talk:Xamikaze330|<font color="Blue">Transmission</font>]]'''''|'''''[[Special:Contributions/Xamikaze330|<font color="Green">Commencing</font>]]''''']</small> 18:27, 28 October 2013 (EDT)Xamikaze330
::Oh, and one other thing: If you do pull it off, please upload the new image as a separate file. Thanks for your input! --'''''[[User:Xamikaze330|<span style="color:Black; font-family: Halo;">Xamikaze330</span>]]''''' <small>['''''[[User talk:Xamikaze330|<font color="Blue">Transmission</font>]]'''''|'''''[[Special:Contributions/Xamikaze330|<font color="Green">Commencing</font>]]''''']</small> 18:44, 28 October 2013 (EDT)Xamikaze330
 
I approve of the change. Though is it even absolutely necessary to depict North as "up"? After all, North as up is a human construction, and there is no up or down in space. If you feel the need to match it up with typical cartography, feel free, but if it's too much trouble, I support setting it as is.--[[File:Emblem 1.jpg|20px|bottom]][[User:Rusty-112|<span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:13pt;color:blue;">''' Rusty'''</span><span style="font-size:13pt;color:red;">'''-'''</span><span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:13pt;color:blue;">'''112'''</span>]] [[Halopedia:Administrators|<span style="color:red; font-family:Arial">'''''Admin'''''</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Rusty-112|<font color="blue">'''comm'''</font>]]</sup> 20:15, 28 October 2013 (EDT)
 
:I have to agree with Rusty-112 on this. In space, there really isn't any "up" or "down", "north" or "south". But if you still want to see if you can get an even better image of Earth from ''Halo 4'' with "north" facing "up" in space, go ahead. If not, then maybe we can make an exception and not have everything be absolutely perfect (though it would be nice), just this once. Just remember, if you do, upload it as a separate file. --'''''[[User:Xamikaze330|<span style="color:Black; font-family: Halo;">Xamikaze330</span>]]''''' <small>['''''[[User talk:Xamikaze330|<font color="Blue">Transmission</font>]]'''''|'''''[[Special:Contributions/Xamikaze330|<font color="Green">Commencing</font>]]''''']</small> 22:06, 30 October 2013 (EDT)Xamikaze330
 
== Largest Population Center ==
 
Earth is humanity's largest population center.  Reach was second with only 700 million.  Given that as of 2558 the population is back in the "billions" by default it is the largest population center in human space.  No other world has ever crossed the billion mark. [[User:Councilor &#39;Rumilee|Councilor &#39;Rumilee]] ([[User talk:Councilor &#39;Rumilee|talk]]) 19:55, 18 February 2014 (EST)
 
== Post war population of earth ==
 
It would seem although billions died billions survived by being shipped off the plannet by ships just wonder how they went about it cause it was 10 billion reduced to 200 milllion and then several billion the next year so several billion must have been evacutated as well I wonder how 343 will answer this at least billions survived to help with keeping humanity with its head above water in the post war with the covenant renmant and the didacts promethans [[User:Spartan Matt|Spartan Matt]] ([[User talk:Spartan Matt|talk]]) 02:36, 9 July 2015 (EDT)
:343i's explanation or the population figures we're given don't make a whole lot of sense in that it would've been flat-out impossible to evacuate billions of people off the planet. Even if we assume most of Earth's population was killed, shipping billions of refugees to the planet over just several months is rather far-fetched. That, and no post-war material suggests casualty figures that high, so they'd have been better off either retconning the 200 million number, or making the damage and casualties look a lot more extensive than they seem. Still, it is what it is and there's little we can do about it. --[[User:Jugus|<font color="MidnightBlue"><b>Jugus</b></font>]] <small>([[User talk:Jugus|<font color="Gray">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jugus|<font color="Gray">Contribs</font>]])</small> 03:20, 9 July 2015 (EDT)
 
::Agreed with Jugus, in that it seems more sensible to simply say that the "200 million" figure either doesn't take into account civilian numbers, or has been retconned as a glitch by whatever entity created the Bestiarum. My own guess is that they're basing it off the explanation Halo 3 explicitly states in the game - that while "Terrestrial casualties from the subsequent bombardment were...extreme," the fact that Truth concentrated his troops on Kenya meant they didn't follow it up with the usual fine-tooth comb of troops and glassing warships we saw during Halo Reach, which left plenty of survivors and pristine non-essential targets. I know that in canon this isn't true - Chicago, the whole Cleveland mess, not to mention Sydney, Mount Erebus and the Gulf of Mexico - but...well, I suppose they expect most fans to assume that Earth got off pretty lightly from that statement, and want their universe to not contradict fan assumptions. Personally, I'd prefer they accepted it as canon, and bolstered the planet's population with refugees - make it even more of a cultural and bureaucratic mess, and as militarily vulnerable as they've tried to make it seem. -- [[User:Morhek|<b><font color=indigo>Qura 'Morhek</font></b>]] [[halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>The Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>of Morheka</sup></font></i></u>]] 06:05, 9 July 2015 (EDT)
 
== Formatting error ==
Since this page is protected, can a trusted user fix the "Battle For Earth" section where it erroneously says "{{R'sisho-pattern Tick|boarding parties]]"? Thanks. [[User:Infernape612|Infernape612]] ([[User talk:Infernape612|talk]]) 12:32, April 18, 2022 (EDT)
:This is an error from when I moved that page with a bot. Thanks for pointing it out - I'll get that fixed now.[[User:BaconShelf|<span style="color:green;">BaconShelf</span>]] <span style="font-size:90%">([[User:BaconShelf|talk]])</span> 12:49, April 18, 2022 (EDT)
 
== Gameplay - Maps w/ Earth ==
 
Most of what's on here is correct, but Infinite's maps, namely Bazzar and Streets should be added. Also is there any reason we can't list the actual maps from the Heroic Map Pack of Halo 3? Foundry, Standoff and Rats Nest. Only 5 words...
 
Also while it may be not canon or unconfirmed to still be canon, I'm pretty sure the cut Halo Online map Sky Bridge takes place on Earth too. [[Special:Contributions/63.155.25.63|63.155.25.63]] 23:28, June 23, 2024 (EDT)

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