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::::Under the definition listed in the article itself, the Banished would qualify as a Covenant remnant: ''"groups originating from the former Covenant body that remain active after the Great Schism and the end of the Human-Covenant War, though no single group uses the specific term "Covenant remnant" to refer to themselves. These factions vary greatly in ethos and motives; while some consider themselves as upholding the legacy of the Covenant as it used to be, others have been shown to pursue more extensive reforms or their own specific agendas."'' The Banished comfortably fit all of these criteria, so if we were to remove them we would also have to narrow down the definition and remove other groups that do not identify as "Covenants" either, such as the Swords of Sanghelios, the Servants of the Abiding Truth or Lydys' master-pack. In fact we'd have to remove most of the groups on the page. However, as I argued earlier, it's easier to just list them all on the page for the sake of convenience and accessibility. And besides, the Banished did spring from the Covenant civilization and use primarily ex-Covenant assets, so they're pretty firmly rooted in the Covenant whether they like it or not. --[[User:Jugus|Jugus]] ([[User talk:Jugus|talk]]) 14:17, 2 August 2016 (EDT)
::::Under the definition listed in the article itself, the Banished would qualify as a Covenant remnant: ''"groups originating from the former Covenant body that remain active after the Great Schism and the end of the Human-Covenant War, though no single group uses the specific term "Covenant remnant" to refer to themselves. These factions vary greatly in ethos and motives; while some consider themselves as upholding the legacy of the Covenant as it used to be, others have been shown to pursue more extensive reforms or their own specific agendas."'' The Banished comfortably fit all of these criteria, so if we were to remove them we would also have to narrow down the definition and remove other groups that do not identify as "Covenants" either, such as the Swords of Sanghelios, the Servants of the Abiding Truth or Lydys' master-pack. In fact we'd have to remove most of the groups on the page. However, as I argued earlier, it's easier to just list them all on the page for the sake of convenience and accessibility. And besides, the Banished did spring from the Covenant civilization and use primarily ex-Covenant assets, so they're pretty firmly rooted in the Covenant whether they like it or not. --[[User:Jugus|Jugus]] ([[User talk:Jugus|talk]]) 14:17, 2 August 2016 (EDT)


== Inconsistencies of inclusion ==
== Inconsistencies of inclusion (should we remove Xytan 'Jar Wattinree's Joyus Exultation Covenant faction, and what does this mean for other factions?) ==


It came to my attention that we are including Xytan 'Jar Wattinree's Joyus Exultation Covenant faction. However it breaches one of the two requirements.  
It came to my attention that we are including Xytan 'Jar Wattinree's Joyus Exultation Covenant faction. However it breaches one of the two requirements.  

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