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I found this on the ''interwebz''. It's supposedly a dictionary with  many Sangheili words and phrases translated into English. I'm not currently aware of it's source an it is most likely conjecture. But I still felt it might have some form of validity and be worth sharing. So what do you think of it?--[[User:Brute Honour Guard|<span style="color:red">Brute Honour Guard</span>]] File:HGBrute.jpg|20px]] ([[User talk:Brute Honour Guard|<span style="color:orange">"Talk"</span>]]) 00:43, 2 August 2011 (EDT)
I found this on the ''interwebz''. It's supposedly a dictionary with  many Sangheili words and phrases translated into English. I'm not currently aware of it's source an it is most likely conjecture. But I still felt it might have some form of validity and be worth sharing. So what do you think of it?--[[User:Brute Honour Guard|<span style="color:red">Brute Honour Guard</span>]] [[Image:HGBrute.jpg|20px]] ([[User talk:Brute Honour Guard|<span style="color:orange">"Talk"</span>]]) 00:43, 2 August 2011 (EDT)
:I really don't know what to think about this right now. Most likely it is fake. I just don't know.--[[User:Halofan1234|ハローファン]] ([[User talk:Halofan1234|H1234-NET]]) 00:47, 2 August 2011 (EDT)
:I really don't know what to think about this right now. Most likely it is fake. I just don't know.--[[User:Halofan1234|ハローファン]] ([[User talk:Halofan1234|H1234-NET]]) 00:47, 2 August 2011 (EDT)
::It appears to be fan made. No sources are cited, ie; Combat Evolved, Reach, Ghosts of Onyx which all have true Sanghelian spoken but without any translation - where for example do they come up with "Jinohag" meaning "to wear", or "Gro'gragort" meaning "enemy"? If indications are to be believed, Sanghelian is modelled on Forerunner, which was an entirely contextual language - one word may mean dozens of things depending on what precedes it or comes after, placement in the sentence, modifiers, etc. It looks like a cool glossary, and I'd definitely recommend it for fanon works, but it's definitely not canon.-- [[User:Specops306|<b><font color=indigo>Specops306</font></b>]] [[halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>Qur'a 'Morhek</sup></font></i></u>]] 03:31, 2 August 2011 (EDT)
::It appears to be fan made. No sources are cited, ie; Combat Evolved, Reach, Ghosts of Onyx which all have true Sanghelian spoken but without any translation - where for example do they come up with "Jinohag" meaning "to wear", or "Gro'gragort" meaning "enemy"? If indications are to be believed, Sanghelian is modelled on Forerunner, which was an entirely contextual language - one word may mean dozens of things depending on what precedes it or comes after, placement in the sentence, modifiers, etc. It looks like a cool glossary, and I'd definitely recommend it for fanon works, but it's definitely not canon.-- [[User:Specops306|<b><font color=indigo>Specops306</font></b>]] [[w:c:halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>Qur'a 'Morhek</sup></font></i></u>]] 03:31, 2 August 2011 (EDT)


== Sangheili language? ==
== Sangheili language? ==
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It appears that Regret's speech in Halo 2 Anniversary is now said in Sangeili. I am saying that because I recognised the word kabono and the languages' structure reminds that of Sangheili as it would be spoken by an alien. But where exactly was it ever stated that the monk chant we heard in the Original halo 2 was the San'Shyuum language?
It appears that Regret's speech in Halo 2 Anniversary is now said in Sangeili. I am saying that because I recognised the word kabono and the languages' structure reminds that of Sangheili as it would be spoken by an alien. But where exactly was it ever stated that the monk chant we heard in the Original halo 2 was the San'Shyuum language?
:Are you sure? Because based on what they've said so far they weren't supposed to be re-recording any dialog (if that's the case you could check it flipping the graphics-audio switch and see if the original is any different). It's also possible it's a coincidence, or 343i fashioned some parts of their Sangheili language after Regret's speech/Bungie's script for it. --[[User:Jugus|<font color="MidnightBlue"><b>Jugus</b></font>]] <small>([[User talk:Jugus|<font color="Gray">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jugus|<font color="Gray">Contribs</font>]])</small> 06:48, 12 November 2014 (EST)
:Are you sure? Because based on what they've said so far they weren't supposed to be re-recording any dialog (if that's the case you could check it flipping the graphics-audio switch and see if the original is any different). It's also possible it's a coincidence, or 343i fashioned some parts of their Sangheili language after Regret's speech/Bungie's script for it. --[[User:Jugus|<font color="MidnightBlue"><b>Jugus</b></font>]] <small>([[User talk:Jugus|<font color="Gray">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jugus|<font color="Gray">Contribs</font>]])</small> 06:48, 12 November 2014 (EST)
::Regret's speech was always in another language. As Jugus said, it's possible 343 took the original into account when they created the Sangheili language. In which case, it's not unusual for words and grammar to transfer from one language to another through cultural contact - modern English is a hodgepodge of Celtic, Anglo-Saxon Germanic, Latin, Old Norse, Norman French, and various influences from its colonial days. Given the three millenia-long cultural contact between the Elites and Prophets, I'd be stunned if it didn't happen, or if they didn't do away with separate languages altogether and fashion a hybrid language they both used as the elite castes. -- [[User:Morhek|<b><font color=indigo>Qura 'Morhek</font></b>]] [[halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>The Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>of Morheka</sup></font></i></u>]] 03:05, 13 November 2014 (EST)
== Split and info move ==
I've found that the "Language" subsection on most species' articles sufficiently covers its respective species' languages better than this page. I propose for this page to be divided into four pages: "Sangheili (language)", "Kig-Yar language", "San'Shyuum language", and "Yonhetian". Most of the information that covers the Covenant's ''lingua franca'' can be moved under "Sangheili (language)". The reason I believe the four aforementioned languages get their own articles is because they either have canonical names, known words in the languages (or gestures, in the case of the San'Shyuum), or have sufficient information to have their own articles. The rest of the information on this page can be moved to the "Language" subsection on its respective species' articles, if it isn't already their. Any thoughts? - [[User:NightHammer|NightHammer]] ([[User talk:NightHammer|talk]]) 17:28, 13 June 2015 (EDT)
:I would argue that the Huragok language is also worth including as a separate page, since they're the in-universe language we've had the most exposure to after Sangheili and Kig-Yar. -- [[User:Morhek|<b><font color=indigo>Qura 'Morhek</font></b>]] [[halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>The Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>of Morheka</sup></font></i></u>]] 00:15, 14 June 2015 (EDT)
::That could work. I forgot that ''Broken Circle'' went into more detail with Huragok sign language. - [[User:NightHammer|NightHammer]] ([[User talk:NightHammer|talk]]) 00:19, 14 June 2015 (EDT)
:I agree too, now that the Covenant is disbanded and the individual languages are getting more detail. [[User:Tuckerscreator|<span style="color:#6600cc;">'''''Tuckerscreator'''''</span>]]<sup>([[User talk:Tuckerscreator|<font color="#008000">stalk</font>]])</sup> 00:54, 14 June 2015 (EDT)
::All right, if no one disagrees, I will start working on it now. - [[User:NightHammer|NightHammer]] ([[User talk:NightHammer|talk]]) 08:36, 14 June 2015 (EDT)

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