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Perhaps the destroyer from Fall or Reach and the Destroyers from Ghost of Onyx are different classes of destroyer, like CAR or CPV. It mentions in Ghost of Onyx that the destroyer have shuttle bays and Spirit Dropships.
Perhaps the destroyer from Fall or Reach and the Destroyers from Ghost of Onyx are different classes of destroyer, like CAR or CPV. It mentions in Ghost of Onyx that the destroyer have shuttle bays and Spirit Dropships.


I deleted the picture of the so-called Covenant destroyer - as far as i can recall, it was from someone's CGI video clip with completely original equipment. So its not canon, and never was. '''Honour Light Your Way - '''File:HalfJaw03.jpg|20px]] '''[[User:Specops306|<font color=purple>Kora ‘Morhek</font>]]''' ''[[User talk:Specops306|<font color=blue>The Battle-Net</font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Specops306|<font color=purple>My Conquests.</font>]]'' 00:06, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
I deleted the picture of the so-called Covenant destroyer - as far as i can recall, it was from someone's CGI video clip with completely original equipment. So its not canon, and never was. '''Honour Light Your Way - '''[[Image:HalfJaw03.jpg|20px]] '''[[User:Specops306|<font color=purple>Kora ‘Morhek</font>]]''' ''[[User talk:Specops306|<font color=blue>The Battle-Net</font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Specops306|<font color=purple>My Conquests.</font>]]'' 00:06, 7 October 2007 (UTC)


The aforementioned image is clearly not canon, but despite multiple deletions, it is always re-posted. Some action against this would be welcome. [[User: Spartan 144 "Nicholas"|Spartan 144 "Nicholas"]] 22:19, 14 June 2008 (UTC-8)
The aforementioned image is clearly not canon, but despite multiple deletions, it is always re-posted. Some action against this would be welcome. [[User: Spartan 144 "Nicholas"|Spartan 144 "Nicholas"]] 22:19, 14 June 2008 (UTC-8)
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No, no, no. A UNSC destroyer is only seven meters longer then a UNSC frigate, which at 483 meters, this means that the Iroquois comes in at only 492 meters, and this would put a destroyer at about 175 meters. And in the trivia how is it known that that ship was a Destroyer? All Serina says is Covenant ship straight ahead or something like that [[User:All Under Heaven|All Under Heaven]]
No, no, no. A UNSC destroyer is only seven meters longer then a UNSC frigate, which at 483 meters, this means that the Iroquois comes in at only 492 meters, and this would put a destroyer at about 175 meters. And in the trivia how is it known that that ship was a Destroyer? All Serina says is Covenant ship straight ahead or something like that [[User:All Under Heaven|All Under Heaven]]
The text actually says "a third again as massive". This would mean it's the full mass of the ''Iroquois'', plus an additional third of the ''Iroquois''' mass added to that full amount so the Covenant destroyer is heavier overall than a UNSC destroyer. -[[User:ScaleMaster117|ScaleMaster117]] ([[User talk:ScaleMaster117|talk]]) 10:04, 10 August 2013 (EDT)


== Curious ==
== Curious ==
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:Either Ensemble have given it the wrong classification, or we've got the size of the Spirit of Fire wrong. Since the SoF's length comes from an interview with Graeme Devine, and accuracy can be difficult under fire from reporters, my guess would be the latter. Or it may be a Covenant Heavy Destroyer, briefly mentioned in First Strike I believe. I do note, however, that the books claim that Destroyers bear more than a passing resemblence to Carriers, the only noticable difference being size - so if it does eventuate to be a Carrier instead of a Destroyer, we may end up retaining the picture.
:Either Ensemble have given it the wrong classification, or we've got the size of the Spirit of Fire wrong. Since the SoF's length comes from an interview with Graeme Devine, and accuracy can be difficult under fire from reporters, my guess would be the latter. Or it may be a Covenant Heavy Destroyer, briefly mentioned in First Strike I believe. I do note, however, that the books claim that Destroyers bear more than a passing resemblence to Carriers, the only noticable difference being size - so if it does eventuate to be a Carrier instead of a Destroyer, we may end up retaining the picture.


:And as far as I know, the actual meanings of Hull Classification Symbol refer to roles rather than sizes. A Destroyer is meant as an escort. A frigate is a light picket, cruiser is a fast warship, etc. I'm not sure, but I'm pretty sure some modern Cruisers are as large as Frigates. Its the use to which they are put that defines their class.-- '''[[Halopedia:Administrators|<font color=blue>Administrator</font>]] [[User:Specops306|<font color=blue>Specops306</font>]] - ''[[User Talk:Specops306|<font color=purple>Qur'a 'Morhek</font>]]'' <sup>''[[halofanon:Operation: HOT GATES|<u><font color=blue>Honour Light Your Way!</font></u>]]''</sup>''' 09:09, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
:And as far as I know, the actual meanings of Hull Classification Symbol refer to roles rather than sizes. A Destroyer is meant as an escort. A frigate is a light picket, cruiser is a fast warship, etc. I'm not sure, but I'm pretty sure some modern Cruisers are as large as Frigates. Its the use to which they are put that defines their class.-- <b>[[Halopedia:Administrators|<font color=blue>Administrator</font>]] [[User:Specops306|<font color=blue>Specops306</font>]] - ''[[User Talk:Specops306|<font color=purple>Qur'a 'Morhek</font>]]'' <sup>''[[w:c:halofanon:Operation: HOT GATES|<u><font color=blue>Honour Light Your Way!</font></u>]]''</sup></b> 09:09, 25 March 2009 (UTC)


::Yes, that would be right. It doesn't matter how large a ship is; it only matters what they're built for and what they're used for. Of course frigates can be bigger than carriers - it's just not usually done because with our current technology, it would be impractical. [[User:The 888th Avatar|<span style="color:blue;">The 888th Avatar</span>]] [[User talk:The 888th Avatar|<sup><span style="color:blue;">(Talk)</span></sup>]] 09:14, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
::Yes, that would be right. It doesn't matter how large a ship is; it only matters what they're built for and what they're used for. Of course frigates can be bigger than carriers - it's just not usually done because with our current technology, it would be impractical. [[User:The 888th Avatar|<span style="color:blue;">The 888th Avatar</span>]] [[User_talk:The 888th Avatar|<sup><span style="color:blue;">(Talk)</span></sup>]] 09:14, 25 March 2009 (UTC)




:::This still doesn't explain why the Spirit of Fire is 2500 meters and the Destroyer is 1500 yet look very close in size in the cutscene. Or why it is only One and a half times the mass of a frigate but still so big in those scenes.
:::This still doesn't explain why the Spirit of Fire is 2500 meters and the Destroyer is 1500 yet look very close in size in the cutscene. Or why it is only One and a half times the mass of a frigate but still so big in those scenes.
::I'm unsure which cutscene you're referring to. There was no point where I saw the Covenant destroyer was long than the ''Spirit of Fire''. Using the underside shot of the collision between the ''Spirit'' and the destroyer was what was used to calculate the size for the ''Essential Visual Guide''. Ensemble's stated size of 1,500m length didn't add up when measured against the ''Spirit of Fire'' and the 1,664m length comes from a direct measurement using the ''Spirit of Fire'''s known length. It is assumed in the ''Visual Guide'' that the light and heavy Covenant destroyers are the same design, just built at different sizes, just like other Covenant vessels like carriers and cruisers. -[[User:ScaleMaster117|ScaleMaster117]] ([[User talk:ScaleMaster117|talk]]) 10:04, 10 August 2013 (EDT)


== Ensemble ==
== Ensemble ==
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Judging from the ship's performance characteristics, it seems to be a multi-purpose design; it is capable of glassing planetary surfaces with a large, primary plasma weapon, it can deploy troops, equipment, vehicles, and field facilities, and has uncertain ship-to-ship prowess, given that it is only seen fighting a ship at point-blank range with its lesser plasma batteries.
Judging from the ship's performance characteristics, it seems to be a multi-purpose design; it is capable of glassing planetary surfaces with a large, primary plasma weapon, it can deploy troops, equipment, vehicles, and field facilities, and has uncertain ship-to-ship prowess, given that it is only seen fighting a ship at point-blank range with its lesser plasma batteries.


If anything, it seems to be a type of destroyer or planetary operations vessels; perhaps it could be called a "planetary operations destroyer" or something like that. Another possibility is that it is a design that will eventually be rendered obsolete by the more familiar 1.5&nbsp;km destroyer that we know of later on, for that model is well-suited to fleet and planetary engagements, given that it can fight superbly against ships, has troops and material, and even Seraph fighters. The Halo Wars ships seem to be primarily planetary warfare-oriented, as it functions in a similar manner to the SoF.
If anything, it seems to be a type of destroyer or planetary operations vessels; perhaps it could be called a "planetary operations destroyer" or something like that. Another possibility is that it is a design that will eventually be rendered obsolete by the more familiar 1.5 km destroyer that we know of later on, for that model is well-suited to fleet and planetary engagements, given that it can fight superbly against ships, has troops and material, and even Seraph fighters. The Halo Wars ships seem to be primarily planetary warfare-oriented, as it functions in a similar manner to the SoF.


Given that this is early in the war, and Regret notes that it will take time to muster the ships, equipment, and troops to wipe out the Humans, it is a definite possibility that these ships are a soon to be obsolete design or a more specialized vessel.
Given that this is early in the war, and Regret notes that it will take time to muster the ships, equipment, and troops to wipe out the Humans, it is a definite possibility that these ships are a soon to be obsolete design or a more specialized vessel.
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How exactly does "a third again as massive" mean that it's 3 times the size of the Iroqois? Wouldn't that mean that you just add a third onto the Iroqois' size? That would make it about 647 meters long. And if it was bigger than a Marathon class cruiser, then why would the humans designate it as a destroyer in the first place? Because I remember quite distincly that the covenant frigates that Keyes saw were only called that because they were about equivalent in size to a human frigate. It would not make any kind of sense to call it that when it's that big. And is there any other source for the size of a covenant destroyer? Because I am very curious as to where this number of 1500 meters came from.
How exactly does "a third again as massive" mean that it's 3 times the size of the Iroqois? Wouldn't that mean that you just add a third onto the Iroqois' size? That would make it about 647 meters long. And if it was bigger than a Marathon class cruiser, then why would the humans designate it as a destroyer in the first place? Because I remember quite distincly that the covenant frigates that Keyes saw were only called that because they were about equivalent in size to a human frigate. It would not make any kind of sense to call it that when it's that big. And is there any other source for the size of a covenant destroyer? Because I am very curious as to where this number of 1500 meters came from.
: "Massive" usually refers to weight not length. If it had said "bigger", then there'd be cause to assume it was longer than Iroquois, but more massive? That's weight. -[[User:ScaleMaster117|ScaleMaster117]] ([[User talk:ScaleMaster117|talk]]) 10:04, 10 August 2013 (EDT)


== Slipspace speed ==
== Slipspace speed ==
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==Picture==
==Picture==


The current picture in the infobox clearly shows a few Assault Carriers below, and they look like Seraphs to a CCS-class. Who to believe??? The novels, or a game.... EM
The current picture in the infobox clearly shows a few Assault Carriers below, and they look like Seraphs to a CCS-class. Who to believe??? The novels, or a game.... {{EM Sig}}
:I think those are meant to be in the distance, but the lack of depth makes it hard to tell. [[User talk:Person1|Person1]] 20:50, 11 July 2009 (UTC)
:I think those are meant to be in the distance, but the lack of depth makes it hard to tell. [[User talk:Person1|Person1]] 20:50, 11 July 2009 (UTC)


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no, i do not like this
no, i do not like this
#where is it stated that all heavier covenant warships have three sections? the {{Pattern|Rasus|interdictor}} apparently has '''five''' sections, and many covenant ships don't even have images or visual descriptions so there is no way of knowing.
#where is it stated that all heavier covenant warships have three sections? the [[Covenant Battleship]] apparently has '''five''' sections, and many covenant ships don't even have images or visual descriptions so there is no way of knowing.
#the second sentence is redundant - "they are used as escorts for battlegroups containing larger ship classes" would be self-explanatory...
#the second sentence is redundant - "they are used as escorts for battlegroups containing larger ship classes" would be self-explanatory...
[[User talk:Asdf1239|Asdf1239]] 23:10, February 13, 2010 (UTC)
[[User talk:Asdf1239|Asdf1239]] 23:10, February 13, 2010 (UTC)


:No idea about the first point but it might be from the novels. The second point should remain as you cannot expect the general readers to know that.'''[[User:-Ascension-|<font color="#5D8AA8">外<font color="#9BDDFF">国</font>人</font>]]<sup>([[User talk:-Ascension-|<font color="#5D8AA8">7alk</font>]])</sup>''' 23:14, February 13, 2010 (UTC)
:No idea about the first point but it might be from the novels. The second point should remain as you cannot expect the general readers to know that.<b>[[User:-Ascension-|<font color="#5D8AA8">外<font color="#9BDDFF">国</font>人</font>]]<sup>([[User talk:-Ascension-|<font color="#5D8AA8">7alk</font>]])</sup></b> 23:14, February 13, 2010 (UTC)
::and what's wrong with noting that it has a central section and two wing-like structures? surely its better than just saying it has "three sections" [[User talk:Asdf1239|Asdf1239]] 23:18, February 13, 2010 (UTC)
::and what's wrong with noting that it has a central section and two wing-like structures? surely its better than just saying it has "three sections" [[User talk:Asdf1239|Asdf1239]] 23:18, February 13, 2010 (UTC)
:::Because saying so might differ from what the novels had described. Halo Wars is not ''perfectly'' canon in terms of visuals.'''[[User:-Ascension-|<font color="#5D8AA8">外<font color="#9BDDFF">国</font>人</font>]]<sup>([[User talk:-Ascension-|<font color="#5D8AA8">7alk</font>]])</sup>''' 23:22, February 13, 2010 (UTC)
:::Because saying so might differ from what the novels had described. Halo Wars is not ''perfectly'' canon in terms of visuals.<b>[[User:-Ascension-|<font color="#5D8AA8">外<font color="#9BDDFF">国</font>人</font>]]<sup>([[User talk:-Ascension-|<font color="#5D8AA8">7alk</font>]])</sup></b> 23:22, February 13, 2010 (UTC)
::::either way, the three sections thing is incorrect because of the battleship, which is mentioned in first strike as having five sections. [[User talk:Asdf1239|Asdf1239]] 23:34, February 13, 2010 (UTC)
::::either way, the three sections thing is incorrect because of the battleship, which is mentioned in first strike as having five sections. [[User talk:Asdf1239|Asdf1239]] 23:34, February 13, 2010 (UTC)
:::::Saying it would not confirm it. Provide the page reference.'''[[User:-Ascension-|<font color="#5D8AA8">外<font color="#9BDDFF">国</font>人</font>]]<sup>([[User talk:-Ascension-|<font color="#5D8AA8">7alk</font>]])</sup>''' 23:37, February 13, 2010 (UTC)
:::::Saying it would not confirm it. Provide the page reference.<b>[[User:-Ascension-|<font color="#5D8AA8">外<font color="#9BDDFF">国</font>人</font>]]<sup>([[User talk:-Ascension-|<font color="#5D8AA8">7alk</font>]])</sup></b> 23:37, February 13, 2010 (UTC)
::::::its in the sources section on the {{Pattern|Rasus|interdictor}} page if you bothered to look, okay?
::::::its in the sources section on the [[Covenant Battleship]] page if you bothered to look, okay?


↑ Halo: First Strike, pg. 301: "...there were even bigger vessels with five bulbous sections that were two kilometers stem to stern and had a dozen deadly energy projectors"
↑ Halo: First Strike, pg. 301: "...there were even bigger vessels with five bulbous sections that were two kilometers stem to stern and had a dozen deadly energy projectors"
[[User talk:Asdf1239|Asdf1239]] 23:43, February 13, 2010 (UTC)
[[User talk:Asdf1239|Asdf1239]] 23:43, February 13, 2010 (UTC)


:You know, a simple addition of "most" would solve that little error. >.>'''[[User:-Ascension-|<font color="#5D8AA8">外<font color="#9BDDFF">国</font>人</font>]]<sup>([[User talk:-Ascension-|<font color="#5D8AA8">7alk</font>]])</sup>''' 23:52, February 13, 2010 (UTC)
:You know, a simple addition of "most" would solve that little error. >.><b>[[User:-Ascension-|<font color="#5D8AA8">外<font color="#9BDDFF">国</font>人</font>]]<sup>([[User talk:-Ascension-|<font color="#5D8AA8">7alk</font>]])</sup></b> 23:52, February 13, 2010 (UTC)
::and where is the proof that ''most'' heavier ships had three sections? apparently we dont know how many sections the Covenant CPV-class Destroyer has, or the [[Varric-pattern heavy cruiser]], or the {{Pattern|Kewu|battleship}}, or the [[Covenant Supercarrier]], et cetera..
::and where is the proof that ''most'' heavier ships had three sections? apparently we dont know how many sections the [[Covenant CPV-class Destroyer]] has, or the [[Reverence-class Cruiser]], or the [[Covenant Supercruiser]], or the [[Covenant Supercarrier]], et cetera..
[[User talk:Asdf1239|Asdf1239]] 00:02, February 14, 2010 (UTC)
[[User talk:Asdf1239|Asdf1239]] 00:02, February 14, 2010 (UTC)
:::By applying to the warships we know of. In this case, most does not refer to the Battleship.'''[[User:-Ascension-|<font color="#5D8AA8">外<font color="#9BDDFF">国</font>人</font>]]<sup>([[User talk:-Ascension-|<font color="#5D8AA8">7alk</font>]])</sup>''' 00:06, February 14, 2010 (UTC)
:::By applying to the warships we know of. In this case, most does not refer to the Battleship.<b>[[User:-Ascension-|<font color="#5D8AA8">外<font color="#9BDDFF">国</font>人</font>]]<sup>([[User talk:-Ascension-|<font color="#5D8AA8">7alk</font>]])</sup></b> 00:06, February 14, 2010 (UTC)
::::except the warships that we know of are not all the warships - in fact, so far the ONLY ships we KNOW to have three sections are the CCS and the Assault Carrier(which is debatable). that does not include "most" ships. [[User talk:Asdf1239|Asdf1239]] 00:11, February 14, 2010 (UTC)
::::except the warships that we know of are not all the warships - in fact, so far the ONLY ships we KNOW to have three sections are the [[CCS]] and the [[Assault Carrier]](which is debatable). that does not include "most" ships. [[User talk:Asdf1239|Asdf1239]] 00:11, February 14, 2010 (UTC)
:::::It is sufficient to establish a common pattern in the Covenant design. A ratio of 2:1 that is.'''[[User:-Ascension-|<font color="#5D8AA8">外<font color="#9BDDFF">国</font>人</font>]]<sup>([[User talk:-Ascension-|<font color="#5D8AA8">7alk</font>]])</sup>''' 00:14, February 14, 2010 (UTC)
:::::It is sufficient to establish a common pattern in the Covenant design. A ratio of 2:1 that is.<b>[[User:-Ascension-|<font color="#5D8AA8">外<font color="#9BDDFF">国</font>人</font>]]<sup>([[User talk:-Ascension-|<font color="#5D8AA8">7alk</font>]])</sup></b> 00:14, February 14, 2010 (UTC)
::::::its still excessively generalised for two ship models. it would be better to say something along the lines of "like the CCS-class Battlecruiser and the Assault Carrier, it has three sections." [[User talk:Asdf1239|Asdf1239]] 00:35, February 14, 2010 (UTC)
::::::its still excessively generalised for two ship models. it would be better to say something along the lines of "like the CCS-class Battlecruiser and the Assault Carrier, it has three sections." [[User talk:Asdf1239|Asdf1239]] 00:35, February 14, 2010 (UTC)
:::::::wait - does the destroyer even have three sections? theres the fuselage, two wings slanting down, and two wings pointing sideways. those arent clearly defined bulbous "sections" like in the ccs, the only way that it can have three sections is if you regard each ''pair'' of wings as a section, which is awkward compared to how the other ships are described. [[User talk:Asdf1239|Asdf1239]] 00:40, February 14, 2010 (UTC)
:::::::wait - does the destroyer even have three sections? theres the fuselage, two wings slanting down, and two wings pointing sideways. those arent clearly defined bulbous "sections" like in the ccs, the only way that it can have three sections is if you regard each ''pair'' of wings as a section, which is awkward compared to how the other ships are described. [[User talk:Asdf1239|Asdf1239]] 00:40, February 14, 2010 (UTC)
::::::::{{Quote|No idea about the first point but it might be from the novels.|What I asked earlier which you ignored.}} As per quote.'''[[User:-Ascension-|<font color="#5D8AA8">外<font color="#9BDDFF">国</font>人</font>]]<sup>([[User talk:-Ascension-|<font color="#5D8AA8">7alk</font>]])</sup>''' 00:58, February 14, 2010 (UTC)
::::::::{{Quote|No idea about the first point but it might be from the novels.|What I asked earlier which you ignored.}} As per quote.<b>[[User:-Ascension-|<font color="#5D8AA8">外<font color="#9BDDFF">国</font>人</font>]]<sup>([[User talk:-Ascension-|<font color="#5D8AA8">7alk</font>]])</sup></b> 00:58, February 14, 2010 (UTC)


== Where did 1500 meters come from? ==
== Where did 1500 meters come from? ==
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:Dunno. The problem with Halopedia: information not properly sourced. ''*sigh*'' [[User:-Ascension-|<span style="font-family:Century Gothic; color:#E32636;">Sketch</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:-Ascension-|<span style="font-family:Century Gothic; color:#E32636;">ist</span>]]</sup> 01:18, April 28, 2010 (UTC)
:Dunno. The problem with Halopedia: information not properly sourced. ''*sigh*'' [[User:-Ascension-|<span style="font-family:Century Gothic; color:#E32636;">Sketch</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:-Ascension-|<span style="font-family:Century Gothic; color:#E32636;">ist</span>]]</sup> 01:18, April 28, 2010 (UTC)


::I believe that by massive it means size, i.e. Jupiter is about 1000 times as massive as the Earth (I believe). SO in this case, I suspect that it means that the cruiser is 1.33 times the length of a destroyer, which equates to about 647 as you said. Does the book say one-third or three times as massive? It looks like the article assumes three times, and 3x485 is approximately 1500. <small><span style="border: 2px solid black; -moz-border-radius:24px">[[User:orionf22|'''<span style="background-color:#787878; color:white; -moz-border-radius-topleft:24px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:24px">&nbsp;&nbsp;ΘяɪɸɴF22&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>''']][http://halopedian.com/User:orionf22 <span style="background-color:#787878; color:firebrick; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:24px; -moz-border-radius-topright:24px">&nbsp;&nbsp;Me&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>][[User talk:orionf22|<span style="background-color:#787878; color:firebrick; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:24px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:24px">&nbsp;&nbsp;Talk&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>]][[Special:Contributions/orionf22|<span style="background-color:#787878; color:firebrick">&nbsp;&nbsp;Contributions&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>]][http://xfire.com/clans/coag <span style="background-color:#787878; color:gold; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:24px; -moz-border-radius-topright:24px">&nbsp;&nbsp;'''CAG'''&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>]</span></small> 01:21, April 28, 2010 (UTC)
::I believe that by massive it means size, i.e. Jupiter is about 1000 times as massive as the Earth (I believe). SO in this case, I suspect that it means that the cruiser is 1.33 times the length of a destroyer, which equates to about 647 as you said. Does the book say one-third or three times as massive? It looks like the article assumes three times, and 3x485 is approximately 1500. [[File:Lieutenant Grade One.png|25px]]<small><span style="border: 2px solid black; -moz-border-radius:24px">[[User:orionf22|'''<span style="background-color:#787878; color:white; -moz-border-radius-topleft:24px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:24px">&nbsp;&nbsp;ΘяɪɸɴF22&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>''']][http://halopedian.com/User:orionf22 <span style="background-color:#787878; color:firebrick; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:24px; -moz-border-radius-topright:24px">&nbsp;&nbsp;Me&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>][[User talk:orionf22|<span style="background-color:#787878; color:firebrick; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:24px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:24px">&nbsp;&nbsp;Talk&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>]][[Special:Contributions/orionf22|<span style="background-color:#787878; color:firebrick">&nbsp;&nbsp;Contributions&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>]][http://xfire.com/clans/coag <span style="background-color:#787878; color:gold; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:24px; -moz-border-radius-topright:24px">&nbsp;&nbsp;<b>CAG</b>&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>]</span></small> 01:21, April 28, 2010 (UTC)
::The Fall of Reach, page 146, "The alien destroyer was a third again as massive as the ''Iroqois''" I think this one needs to be changed.[[User talk:Wannabecriminalman|Wannabecriminalman]] 22:45, April 29, 2010 (UTC)
::The Fall of Reach, page 146, "The alien destroyer was a third again as massive as the ''Iroqois''" I think this one needs to be changed.[[User talk:Wannabecriminalman|Wannabecriminalman]] 22:45, April 29, 2010 (UTC)


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:And you never consider that the Covenant had more than just one class/type of destroyer? - [[User:-Ascension-|<span style="font-family:Century Gothic; color:#E32636;">Sketch</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:-Ascension-|<span style="font-family:Century Gothic; color:#E32636;">ist</span>]]</sup> 03:04, May 19, 2010 (UTC)
:And you never consider that the Covenant had more than just one class/type of destroyer? - [[User:-Ascension-|<span style="font-family:Century Gothic; color:#E32636;">Sketch</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:-Ascension-|<span style="font-family:Century Gothic; color:#E32636;">ist</span>]]</sup> 03:04, May 19, 2010 (UTC)


::This. It is entirely possible, in fact probable, that a massive interstellar empire such as the Covenant would have at least two or more different classes of Destroyer. Because of this, I think we should mention this, and the size given in FoR on the page.--[[User:Jugus|<font color="MidnightBlue">'''Jugus'''</font>]] ([[User talk:Jugus|<font color="Gray">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jugus|<font color="Gray">Contribs</font>]]) 06:19, May 19, 2010 (UTC)
::This. It is entirely possible, in fact probable, that a massive interstellar empire such as the Covenant would have at least two or more different classes of Destroyer. Because of this, I think we should mention this, and the size given in FoR on the page.--[[User:Jugus|<font color="MidnightBlue"><b>Jugus</b></font>]] ([[User talk:Jugus|<font color="Gray">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jugus|<font color="Gray">Contribs</font>]]) 06:19, May 19, 2010 (UTC)
 
==Official Length==
Can't we say for sure that the destroyer is 4,900&nbsp;ft long.  The picture at the bottom of it next to the Spirit of Fire ( which is 7,920&nbsp;ft long) clearly shows its slightly smaller than it.  Theres no way that the destroyer is 2,120&nbsp;ft in length which is nearly 1/4 the size of the Spirit. [[User talk:DA BEST|DA BEST]] 22:31, 8 July 2011 (EDT)
 
==Classification==
With the new info from the visual guide, is it safe to assume that the CPV-class heavy destroyer is the one featured in Halo Wars while the RPV-class light destroyer is the one featured in the books? I know there's no way to completely confirm this, but we now have two classifications - a light and heavy one - for two unnamed destroyer types (a big and a small one). Odds are, they are intended to correspond with one another [[User talk:SPARTAN-347|SPARTAN-347]] 19:24, 9 July 2011 (EDT)
 
Probably right.  This page should be split. [[User talk:DA BEST|DA BEST]] 03:46, 10 July 2011 (EDT)
 
:No way to confirm this? It states it point blank that the ones featured in Halo Wars were the CPV, while the one that Keyes destroyed was an RPV. [[User talk:Missing Mandible|Missing Mandible]] 23:20, 15 July 2011 (EDT)

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