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| There. I've archived the talk page.-- '''[[User:Forerunner|<font color="blue">Fore</font>]]''[[User talk:Forerunner|<font color="green">run</font>]]''[[Special:Contributions/Forerunner|<font color="red">ner</font>]]''' 14:19, June 23, 2010 (UTC) | | There. I've archived the talk page.-- '''[[User:Forerunner|<font color="blue">Fore</font>]]''[[User talk:Forerunner|<font color="green">run</font>]]''[[Special:Contributions/Forerunner|<font color="red">ner</font>]]''' 14:19, June 23, 2010 (UTC) |
| :Where's the archive? Clicking on "Archive" leads to "Create this new page". [[User:Tuckerscreator|<span style="color:#6600cc;">'''''Tuckerscreator'''''</span>]]<sup>([[User talk:Tuckerscreator|<font color="#008000">stalk</font>]])</sup> 20:29, 25 September 2012 (EDT)
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| ::Archive is right [[Talk:Covenant Empire/Archive 1|here]]. I'll see if I can fix the archive link.--''[[User:Spartacus|<span style="color:Green; font-weight:bold; font-family:Arial">Spartacus,</span>]]'' ''[[Halopedia:Administrators|<span style="color:DarkGoldenrod; font-weight:bold; font-family:Arial">Halopedia Administrator</span>]]'' <sup>'''[[User talk:Spartacus|<font color="Black">Talk</font>]]'''</sup> 21:01, 25 September 2012 (EDT)
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| == Covenant empire symbol == | | == Covenant Millitary == |
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| Shouldn't the article be using [[File:Halo1 - Covenant Symbol.png|100px]]? Or at least display it? [[Special:Contributions/98.24.14.97|98.24.14.97]] 09:33, 18 May 2013 (EDT)
| | Before the subjects here were removed, i just wanna point out that whoever put that the statement on Covenant Millitary about the covenant ground forces being less capable than human ground forces is so right it doesn't do the Covenant justice. Even Grunts obliterate UNSC Marines with ease so going up against brutes, elites or hunters the marines have no chance. Whoever put down "''It may be noted that despite that their technology is far more superior to the humans and their numbers are much larger as well, the covenant as ground warriors are much less capable and are often defeated and are often forced to retreat to glass the planet from space" ''needs severe medical attention because I think that it A) Downgrades the covenant severly B) Is so not true.{{Unsigned|62.30.140.42}} |
| | :If the sentence degrades the article quality and stays untrue to canon, remove it. - <font face="Century Gothic">[[User:Subtank|<font color="gold"><font color="#FF4F00">5</font>əb<font color="#FF4F00">'7</font>aŋk</font>]]<sup>([[User talk:Subtank|<font color="#FF4F00">7alk</font>]])</sup></font> 19:50, June 26, 2010 (UTC) |
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| Furthemore, shouldn't there be an article on the various covie glyphs we see? Not the forerunner ones, but like the ones seen on ghosts, wraiths and the weapons. [[Special:Contributions/98.24.14.97|98.24.14.97]] 09:35, 18 May 2013 (EDT)
| | It's all right it's been removed anyway, cheers though.{{Unsigned|62.30.140.42}} |
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| :As discussed [[File talk:Halo1 - Covenant Symbol.png|here]], it's been determined that that glyph does not actually stand for the Covenant but actually for its vehicles, and that it changes throughout the games. [[User:Tuckerscreator|<span style="color:#6600cc;">'''''Tuckerscreator'''''</span>]]<sup>([[User talk:Tuckerscreator|<font color="#008000">stalk</font>]])</sup> 18:37, 18 May 2013 (EDT) | | :It's "so right", is it? Wonderful. People always see the light in the end. Please go away and read page 7 of ''Halo: The Fall of Reach'', where Human forces "stonewall" Covenant forces on the ground at the [[Battle of Jericho VII]], and page 8, where it reads, "On the ground, Spartans ''always'' won." Not to mention Human forces routinely tearing through Covenant ground forces in all of the games, ''Halo Wars'' and ''Halo 3: ODST'' included. It's in space where the Covenant has the advantage.--[[User talk:The All-knowing Sith'ari|The All-knowing Sith'ari]] 19:54, June 26, 2010 (UTC) |
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| ::I might as well point out that I have seen this glyph on other Covenant devices besides their vehicles. So, it could be considered the symbol of the Covenant Empire. --'''''[[User:Xamikaze330|<span style="color:Black; font-family: Halo;">Xamikaze330</span>]]''''' <small>['''''[[User talk:Xamikaze330|<font color="Blue">Transmission</font>]]'''''|'''''[[Special:Contributions/Xamikaze330|<font color="Green">Commencing</font>]]''''']</small> 15:16, 19 February 2014 (EST)Xamikaze330 | | ::The UNSC are brilliant tacticians compared to the Covenant, who don't seem to have any plans, just going after anything. When it gets towards the end of the battle however, the UNSC chain of command will disintegrate and troops will become vulnerable. The 101st Drop Jet '''Platoon''' was destroyed by '''thousands''' of Unggoy. It doesn't mean that they are simply poor fighters, but that 45 men can't handle a thousand doses of burning plasma.-- '''[[User:Forerunner|<font color="blue">Fore</font>]]''[[User talk:Forerunner|<font color="green">run</font>]]''[[Special:Contributions/Forerunner|<font color="red">ner</font>]]''' 19:57, June 26, 2010 (UTC) |
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| I think this ( http://imgur.com/a/SaO1V ) might be the closest thing we now have for a symbol of the Covenant Empire. [[User:Lord Susto|<span style="color:orange">Lord Susto</span>]] 01:35, 29 July 2015 (EDT)
| | ::Regarding human forces winning in the games; that is debatable. It all depends on gameplay and difficulty settings; higher difficulties will see that human forces will be easily eliminated by the opposing forces. The best illustration of a ground battle between the UNSC and the Covenant would be in Halo Legends; ''Homecoming'', ''The Prototype'', and ''The Babysitter''.- <font face="Century Gothic">[[User:Subtank|<font color="gold"><font color="#FF4F00">5</font>əb<font color="#FF4F00">'7</font>aŋk</font>]]<sup>([[User talk:Subtank|<font color="#FF4F00">7alk</font>]])</sup></font> 19:59, June 26, 2010 (UTC) |
| :The second one down does match, or is at least very similar to, the Covenant emblem in ''Halo 4'' and ''Halo: The Master Chief Collection''.[[User:Sith Venator|<span style="color:green">Sith Venator</span>]] [[File:Mega Blastoise.gif|20px]] ([[User talk:Sith Venator|<span style="color:blue">Dank Memes</span>]]) 01:39, 29 July 2015 (EDT)
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| I will be changing the picture once I get a better resolution picture of the covenant flag the letters of which are seen below and on Sunaion. | | What was that about UNSC being brilliant tacticians as if the Covenant weren't !? I think you will find that if you read the article about Drones, at some point it will talk about a covenant tactic that can be used to wipe out a squad of UNSC Marines (which in the drones' case is to divert Marine fire upwards using the drones as a distraction whilst the infantry eliminate the marines or something like that). So the Covenant are good at ground combat as well as space it's just that there's much more of a difference in ability when it comes to UNSC-Covenant space combat as the covenant tend to be much more skilled at space combat than the UNSC, but even on ground when going against Marines or ODST the Covenant are still better than the UNSC it's only when the spartans help them, Marines' morale is boosted and that's probably why the UNSC wrongly get all the credit when going against the Covenant on ground-battles. |
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| --[[User:The Master Builder|The Master Builder]] ([[User talk:The Master Builder|talk]]) 16:24, 29 July 2015 (EDT)
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| :I agree, we should get a symbol/flag for the main image ASAP as a counterpart to how the UNSC article uses a symbol. Preferably, we'll have confirmation on it first, maybe when H5 comes out? The dark and grainy Halo Wars images just doesn't cut it - especially since only Elites and Banshees are represented. (I took the liberty of turning The Master Builder's image into a thumb so it doesn't obliterate the screen.)--[[User:Ender the Xenocide|<font color="Gray">Ender the Xenocide]]</font> 15:05, 18 August 2015 (EDT)
| | To debate against that you'll need to read this first "Yanme'e are deployed in battle situations, such as aerial insertions, among the Covenant, and, during the [[Great Schism]], the [[Covenant Loyalists]]. They are used for surprise aerial ambushes and assaults, such as catching [[Human]] troops off guard and causing them to shoot upwards as a diversion so that their allies may attack on the ground. This is a common Covenant tactic that can be used to wipe out a whole squad of [[UNSC Marines]]." |
| ::If the Halo Wars is too grainy and outdated, lets use Halo 2 Anniversary's Covenant depiction. Have a scene from the Arbiter's trial. It shows the Hierarch's (Covenant Leaders) the Councillors (Elites), the Prophets, Brutes, and the leadership and a meeting room. However this symbol has only been shown in the games to depict the post-war Covenant. It only depicts the Original Covenant in fleet battles wich does not work as Fleet Battles is a third party board game, and is a lower hierarchy than Halo 1-3. Thus Halo 1-3 (including anniversary)'s depiction of the Covenant is more accurate. Please read this: http://www.halopedia.org/Halopedia:Canon_policy#Hierarchy_of_canon [[User:Editorguy|Editorguy]] ([[User talk:Editorguy|talk]]) 08:31, 23 November 2015 (EST)
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| I much prefer the current image, if we are to change it I suggest we vote on it. [[User:Alertfiend|Alertfiend]] ([[User talk:Alertfiend|talk]]) 22:20, 8 September 2015 (EDT)
| | This means the covenant millitary personell are excellent strategists and tacticians, they do have a mind you know they may have their flaws yeah which are exploited by the spartans but so do the UNSC and the covenant have slaughtered loads of spartans by 2552 a Jiralhanae killed one with his brute shot during Operation: First Strike which although wasn't on a planet it was still infantry combat (close-range). |
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| :I put up the current image, but never really liked it; it's merely the closest we had to something high-graphics that shows the multitude of their species and technology. If the above is the new Covenant symbol, which seems likely based on [[:File:UNSC Battlegroup Leviathan.jpg|the UNSC juxtaposition]], then that works instead. [[User:Tuckerscreator|<span style="color:#6600cc;">'''''Tuckerscreator'''''</span>]]<sup>([[User talk:Tuckerscreator|<font color="#008000">stalk</font>]])</sup> 03:17, 9 September 2015 (EDT)
| | That's right 90, and another strategy the covenant use involving the grunts is to use the latter to soften up the UNSC Soldiers the covenant are fighting and force the UNSC troops to waste ammo on the grunts and have the brute/elite leader finish them off. Often works as long as the chief isn't around. |
| Since we have the triangular characters that represent the covenant I think we should change the picture of this and Jul's covenant pic to that of the triangular glyphs that officially represent the covenant. They have been seen in halo fleet battles, a replica of truth and Reconciliation and on Sunaion as the flag of the Covenant. The current pic only shows the Sangheili and there is no reason why the UNSC should have its actual faction logo but the covenant should not. --[[User:The Master Builder|The Master Builder]] ([[User talk:The Master Builder|talk]]) 07:55, 9 September 2015 (EDT)
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| :I actually prefer the current image because it shows the Covenant's power and tenacity real well. But if the decision is to change the image to what The Master Builder has proposed, I'm fine with that.--{{User:Spartacus/Sig}} 17:29, 9 September 2015 (EDT)
| | Since apparently none of my comments made it over from the switch (THANKS) I'm going to say this very clearly. READ THE BOOKS. In ground combat, and this is stated very clearly in The Flood, several other books, and even in many incidents in-game (don't be stupid by assuming things based on Legendary play, which ARE HARDER FOR A REASON) that the UNSC is SUPERIOR in ground combat. They are physically weaker true, but are devestatingly accurate and far-superior in tactics, especially in MOUT. Even in close quarters Direct Action combat, a fire team of three ODSTs in the Bluff battle wiped out six Elite Special Operations troops and several grunts. The humans are better on the ground, period. Get over it. They win in space. --[[User talk:HellJump04|HellJump04]] 11:02, 23 October 2010 (EDT) |
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| ::The image TMB proposed is currently a photoshoped recreation and not the actual thing, besides I agree with Tucker, the current image conveys the power of the former covenant, use it for Jul's covenant. One more thing, how do we know it means Covenant? it could mean For Victory.[[User:Alertfiend|Alertfiend]] ([[User talk:Alertfiend|talk]]) 18:48, 9 September 2015 (EDT)
| | Oh, and in Halo Wars? Yeah, UNSC infantry are vastly superior to Covenant Forces. Doesn't take a genius to see that one either. And, I have to add, UNSC ground troops have a tendency to WIN even when vastly outnumbered by enemies equipped with vastly superior weapons and technology. That says something about the warrior. Also try ODST. Those guys aren't augmented, they're simply highly trained. What the hell do I know about war though? I only served as a sniper with First Ranger battalion and several other Air Force and Army Special Operations units. That's what drew me to Halo as a series. It proves that the MAN makes the warrior, not the weapons and not the tech.--[[User talk:HellJump04|HellJump04]] 11:09, 23 October 2010 (EDT) |
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| :::I don't really see how the current image is good in any way as a representative for the Covenant. The variety and massiveness of the Covenant is what actually conveys their power. Additionally, the Covenant aren't just a military entity, so we shouldn't just show that side either way. And no, it should not be used for Jul since this image is pre-Jul, pre-H4, pre-343. It's so far removed from Jul's covenant in many ways. If you want to represent Jul's covenant, then simply use pictures of Jul's covenant. As for the recreation, I agree. We need confirmation before using it. I'll try to ask a community rep soon.--[[User:Ender the Xenocide|<font color="Gray">Ender the Xenocide]]</font> 12:44, 22 September 2015 (EDT)
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| :I'm not sure how that's agreeing with me when I said I ''don't'' like the picture. A better one would show more of the Covenant species and perhaps even their starships.
| | What source(s) actually refer to the The Covenant as 'The Covenant Empire'. Every other place I look call it The Covenant and I cant find any indication that it is actually an Empire. |
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| :The prior logo was a recreation too, as seen by its description. We're deducing that this one means Covenant because the Fleet Battles image for the UNSC ships linked above shows the wartime UNSC logo. So it stands to reason that the equivalent logo on the alien picture above is the wartime Covenant logo. Incidentally, that's why we didn't make [[:File:HaloWars-CovenantSymbol.png|this logo]] from ''Halo Wars'' the page image, because its human opposite on the faction screen was the ''Spirit of Fire'' [[:File:Sof logo.png|emblem]] so it seemed more likely that the alien ''Halo Wars'' one stood for the troops only under Regret's command. [[User:Tuckerscreator|<span style="color:#6600cc;">'''''Tuckerscreator'''''</span>]]<sup>([[User talk:Tuckerscreator|<font color="#008000">stalk</font>]])</sup> 01:37, 10 September 2015 (EDT)
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| : sorry I meant Spartacus [[User:Alertfiend|Alertfiend]] ([[User talk:Alertfiend|talk]]) 02:03, 10 September 2015 (EDT) | | :I don't really know. "The Covenant" wasn't allowed and "Covenant (Faction)" was just stupid.-- [[User talk:Forerunner|Forerunner]] 14:21, July 31, 2010 (UTC) |
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| :I am switching it to the triangular characters. Halo 5 officially confirms that this is the symbol the covenant uses to represent itself as a whole and it is not specific to Jul's faction. It's also unfair that the SoS and UNSC get their symbol but the Covenant gets a picture that represents only the Sangheili.--[[User:The Master Builder|The Master Builder]] ([[User talk:The Master Builder|talk]]) 11:52, 2 November 2015 (EST) | | ::Ask CommanderTony. |
| | :(cur) (prev) 18:02, July 2, 2009 CommanderTony (Talk | contribs | block) m (40,526 bytes) (moved The Covenant to Covenant Empire: "The Covenant" just doesn't fly.) |
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| | -- [[User talk:Forerunner|Forerunner]] 14:22, July 31, 2010 (UTC) |
| The Halo 4 Interactive Guide says it was founded 5000 years ago not 3000. Retcon?[[User:Councilor 'Rumilee|Councilor 'Rumilee]] ([[User talk:Councilor 'Rumilee|talk]]) 14:36, 19 February 2014 (EST)
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| :I would probably say mistake or typo.[[User:Sith Venator|<span style="color:green">Sith-venator Wavingstrider</span>]] [[File:Fett helmet.jpg|20px]] ([[User talk:Sith Venator|<span style="color:blue">Commlink</span>]]) 14:42, 19 February 2014 (EST)
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| ::All the other sources we have indicate the 3,000 year mark. As Sith said, it's probably a mistake or typo.--{{User:Spartacus/Sig}} 15:03, 19 February 2014 (EST)
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| == Jul's Covenant and the Covenant Empire should not have the same image. ==
| | So if I understood that right, it was changed because one of the mods didn't like the name Bungie had given the the series' main antagonist? |
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| Two different factions, leaders, and eras. Why not keep it the way it was? Now giving both groups the exact same image (when Halo 1-3 didn't depict the Covenant with this purple symbol is inaccurate. If the purple symbol is used to represent the Covenant in Halo 4 and 5 (after Halo 3) it is clearly referring to the post war Covenant, not the pre-war Covenant. They are two different groups.
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| With regards to Fleet Battle showing the Covenant Empire with that logo, that is not a valid source for several reasons. For one, it mixes both Human-Covenant War era (Halo: Contact Harvest-Halo 3) art and designs as well as some post-war era (Halo 4 onwards) art and designs. Since it features post war art designs during the Human Covenant war era, post war images such as that symbol attributed to the post-war Covenant can not be taken as accurate. Also because this is a third party board game, its canon-ness can not take priority over a full fleged game's canon (Halo 1-3, including anniversaries). Halo 4 and 5 depict the post war Covenant, which is an entirely different faction.[[User:Editorguy|Editorguy]] ([[User talk:Editorguy|talk]]) 08:07, 23 November 2015 (EST)
| | :No - he didn't like the word 'the' disambiguating the article from the level.-- [[User talk:Forerunner|Forerunner]] 21:20, August 5, 2010 (UTC) |
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| :There's been plenty of other media that mixed post-war designs, such as ''Halo 4: Forward Unto Dawn''. The mixing of designs make sense; much of Jul's Covenant equipment has been old war armor and weapons, with some like [[Ru'swum-pattern Phantom|their Phantoms]] being noted to have an earlier fabrication date. As for having the same logo, that also makes sense; {{Plain|[https://www.halowaypoint.com/en-us/community/blog-posts/canon-fodder-puzzled-expression Jul considers his Covenant to be the same as the original]}} and therefore they would use the same insignia. Even though the logo has been introduced in recent fiction rather than past Halo games, that doesn't mean it isn't valid. New fiction supersedes old, most of the time. [[User:Tuckerscreator|<span style="color:#6600cc;">'''''Tuckerscreator'''''</span>]]<sup>([[User talk:Tuckerscreator|<font color="#008000">stalk</font>]])</sup> 14:00, 22 November 2015 (EST) | | :Yeah, that was a pretty inane claim you made right there CoalitionofIndependantRepublics. Bungie gave them the name of "Covenant". "The" is not part of their official title. Your claim of "because one of the mods didn't like the name" would hold truth if CommanderTony rename the article to something like "Forerunner Alliance", but "Covenant Empire" is meant to give the article a better sounding name. Having the article be called either just "Covenant" or "The Covenant" would sound stupid. And the Covenant is logically an empire. [[Special:Contributions/173.66.218.243|173.66.218.243]] 03:02, August 9, 2010 (UTC) |
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| ::The concept of newer fiction superseding old would make sense if for example Halo Anniversary or Halo 2 Anniversary depicted the Covenant with that symbol, but it does not. Halo 4/Halo 5 using a Covenant symbol depicting the Covenant does not apply to the Original Covenant, as Halo 4/Halo 5 never depicts the Original Covenant, it depicts Jul's New Covenant which is an entirely different group. The only new fiction the depicts the Original Covenant with that Symbol is Halo: Fleet Battles, wich is a board game. Here is the issue. | | == Request for Move - July 2010 == |
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| ::Remember this, http://www.halopedia.org/Halopedia:Canon_policy#Hierarchy_of_canon. Halo Wars, Reach, 1-3's depiction of the Covenant Empire (Halo 4 and 5 doesn't depict the Covenant Empire btw, it depicts Jul's Covenant) is more canon than the depiction in Halo: Fleet Battles. Games supersede BoardGames and third party stuff in the Hierarchy of Canon. Because Halo Wars-Halo 3 are games, their representation of the Covenant takes canon over the Halo: Fleet Battles representation of the Covenant. http://www.halopedia.org/Halopedia:Canon_policy#Hierarchy_of_canon.[[User:Editorguy|Editorguy]] ([[User talk:Editorguy|talk]]) 08:04, 23 November 2015 (EST)
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| :::I'm not sure why invoke the hierarchy of canon when there is no evident contradiction in the first place. ''Halos'' 1-3 and ''Reach'' do ''not'' depict any symbol that can be conclusively identified as the official emblem of the Covenant at all while ''Fleet Battles'' does. In the absence of any hypothetical symbol that may be different from the one from ''Fleet Battles'' (the existence of which you're only ''assuming'') I don't see why not just use the one we have. --[[User:Jugus|<font color="MidnightBlue">'''Jugus'''</font>]] <small>([[User talk:Jugus|<font color="Gray">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jugus|<font color="Gray">Contribs</font>]])</small> 12:01, 23 November 2015 (EST)
| | I was reading through the article earlier. I read the Weapons Section, when I noticed this statement in it: |
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| ::What Jugus said. Regardless if Fleet Battles is a board game, under 343's rules it is just as canon as the rest of the universe, unlike Bungie-era [[Halo Interactive Strategy Game]], which makes up its own scenarios. Last month 343 was posting up a ton of media and backstory for Fleet Battles on [[Canon Fodder]]. It is entirely canon and so should be treated in the same way. [[User:Tuckerscreator|<span style="color:#6600cc;">'''''Tuckerscreator'''''</span>]]<sup>([[User talk:Tuckerscreator|<font color="#008000">stalk</font>]])</sup> 12:29, 23 November 2015 (EST)
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| I agree with both people above me. Even if it isn't an official logo for the Covenant, it is literally stylized Sangheili writing for the word "Covenant", making it the best thing we have at the moment.{{Unsigned|Japeth555}}
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| | " The plasma that is used in Covenant weapons is mined from deep inside the [[Unggoy]] planet [[Balaho]]. When it was depleted, their technology had already become so advanced they were capable of synthesizing millions of tons of plasma in a single day." |
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| *Technically, either or works. Giving them the same image probably is still accurate enough, but giving them different images wouldn't be inaccurate either. If anything though, I think giving them different images would slightly be more accurate, as no media has depicted the original Covenant with the additional designs and shapes that [http://www.halopedia.org/File:Covenant2.jpg Symbol 2] presents. Fleet Battles at least depicted the original Covenant with the design more akin to [http://www.halopedia.org/File:H5Covenant_Logo2.png Symbol 1], so it makes sense to attribute it to the original Covenant article instead. And if I remember correctly I saw designs [http://www.halopedia.org/File:H5Covenant_Logo2.png Symbol 1] in Halo 2 Anniversary as well in High Charity (could be wrong here). This isn't to say [http://www.halopedia.org/File:Covenant2.jpg Symbol 2] is entirely inaccurate, both of them work technically, but I think it would be helpful to give this page symbol 1 for the reason mentioned above since both work anyway.
| | This is pure crap right here.[[User talk:Missing Mandible|Missing Mandible]] 04:42, August 9, 2010 (UTC) |
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| [[User:Editorguy|Editorguy]] ([[User talk:Editorguy|talk]]) 04:11, 27 January 2017 (EST)
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| :I agree on the use of Symbol 1, considering it's explicitly been used for the original Covenant, while the second one has not. --[[User:Jugus|Jugus]] ([[User talk:Jugus|talk]]) 13:52, 27 January 2017 (EST)
| | I don't think Truth woud be the commander in chief. I propose that it is changed to Xytan (pre great schism) and an unknown brute (post great schism. [[User talk:Grupa 'Zamamee|Grupa 'Zamamee]] 22:24, September 11, 2010 (UTC) |
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| ::I agree on the use of Symbol 1, but I think the second reason matters more than the first. If Symbol 1 is all that has been used for the original Covenant, with no canon examples of Symbol 2 for them, then that's the reason to use it. Simply giving Jul's Covenant and the original Covenant different symbols isn't as strong a reason, since Jul considered his Covenant to be a continuation of the first so reusing the old logo would tie into that. [[User:Tuckerscreator|<span style="color:#6600cc;">'''''Tuckerscreator'''''</span>]]<sup>([[User talk:Tuckerscreator|<font color="#008000">stalk</font>]])</sup> 14:06, 27 January 2017 (EST)
| | The hierarchs are the absolute heads of the Covenant, and Truth is the head of the hierarchs. Truth was able to control Tartarus and make Xytan work in the fringes. Commander in Chief is not for the hightest ranked general. Its for the highest military power, which is Truth. [[User:Tgor365|<span style="color:red">'''Tgor'''</span>]][[User talk:Tgor365|<span style="color:blue">'''365'''</span>]] 22:42, September 11, 2010 (UTC) |
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| | Well technically Truth was the same rank as the other Hierarchs. But only a fool would believe that. [[User:Vegerot|<span style="color:midnightblue; font-weight:bold">Vegerot</span>]] ([[User talk:Vegerot|<span style="color:grey">talk</span>]]) 22:54, 9 March 2011 (EST)!!!! |
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| | == First Pic? == |
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| | I am pretty sure that the first picture is not relevant to this page. --[[User talk:Spartan-08686|Spartan-08686]] 01:28, 11 November 2010 (EST) |
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| | Well, according to the description the symbol is from "Halo: Combat Evolved" and is the symbol of the Covenant. Whether this is true or speculation remains to be seen.... [[User talk:Eaite Randjam|Eaite Randjam]] 11:33, 11 November 2010 (EST) |
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| | == Skirmishers? == |
| | Where are the Skirmishers? I believe that they were part of the Covenant, too. --[[User talk:Spartan-08686|Spartan-08686]] 00:08, 6 December 2010 (EST) |
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| | :they're included in the kig-yar section--[[File:1221751884 I-animated-this-for-you.gif|20px]][[User:Ender the Xenocide|<font color="Green">Ender the Xenocide]]</font>[[File:1221751884 I-animated-this-for-you.gif|20px]] 11:17, 6 December 2010 (EST) |
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| | == Suggestion for Species Section == |
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| | While the dual-column organization system is interesting, might I suggest we develop maybe a table of sorts? It just seems lopsided since the headers don't exactly line up. Not a big deal, just a thought. Cheers, --[[File:RozhTitle.png|50px|link=User:Rozh]] 20:23, 6 March 2011 (EST) |
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| | Yeah, maybe, but with some edits to your idea? [[User:Vegerot|<span style="color:midnightblue; font-weight:bold">Vegerot</span>]] ([[User talk:Vegerot|<span style="color:grey">talk</span>]]) 22:54, 9 March 2011 (EST)!!!! |