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:I agree, we should get a symbol/flag for the main image ASAP as a counterpart to how the UNSC article uses a symbol. Preferably, we'll have confirmation on it first, maybe when H5 comes out? The dark and grainy Halo Wars images just doesn't cut it - especially since only Elites and Banshees are represented. (I took the liberty of turning The Master Builder's image into a thumb so it doesn't obliterate the screen.)--[[User:Ender the Xenocide|<font color="Gray">Ender the Xenocide]]</font> 15:05, 18 August 2015 (EDT) | :I agree, we should get a symbol/flag for the main image ASAP as a counterpart to how the UNSC article uses a symbol. Preferably, we'll have confirmation on it first, maybe when H5 comes out? The dark and grainy Halo Wars images just doesn't cut it - especially since only Elites and Banshees are represented. (I took the liberty of turning The Master Builder's image into a thumb so it doesn't obliterate the screen.)--[[User:Ender the Xenocide|<font color="Gray">Ender the Xenocide]]</font> 15:05, 18 August 2015 (EDT) | ||
::If the Halo Wars is too grainy and outdated, lets use Halo 2 Anniversary's Covenant depiction. Have a scene from the Arbiter's trial. It shows the Hierarch's (Covenant Leaders) the Councillors (Elites), the Prophets, Brutes, and the leadership and a meeting room. However this symbol has only been shown in the games to depict the post-war Covenant. It only depicts the Original Covenant in fleet battles wich does not work as Fleet Battles is a third party board game, and is a lower hierarchy than Halo 1-3. Thus Halo 1-3 (including anniversary)'s depiction of the Covenant is more accurate. Please read this: http://www.halopedia.org/Halopedia: | ::If the Halo Wars is too grainy and outdated, lets use Halo 2 Anniversary's Covenant depiction. Have a scene from the Arbiter's trial. It shows the Hierarch's (Covenant Leaders) the Councillors (Elites), the Prophets, Brutes, and the leadership and a meeting room. However this symbol has only been shown in the games to depict the post-war Covenant. It only depicts the Original Covenant in fleet battles wich does not work as Fleet Battles is a third party board game, and is a lower hierarchy than Halo 1-3. Thus Halo 1-3 (including anniversary)'s depiction of the Covenant is more accurate. Please read this: http://www.halopedia.org/Halopedia:Canon_Policy#Hierarchy_of_canon [[User:Editorguy|Editorguy]] ([[User talk:Editorguy|talk]]) 08:31, 23 November 2015 (EST) | ||
I much prefer the current image, if we are to change it I suggest we vote on it. [[User:Alertfiend|Alertfiend]] ([[User talk:Alertfiend|talk]]) 22:20, 8 September 2015 (EDT) | I much prefer the current image, if we are to change it I suggest we vote on it. [[User:Alertfiend|Alertfiend]] ([[User talk:Alertfiend|talk]]) 22:20, 8 September 2015 (EDT) | ||
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::The concept of newer fiction superseding old would make sense if for example Halo Anniversary or Halo 2 Anniversary depicted the Covenant with that symbol, but it does not. Halo 4/Halo 5 using a Covenant symbol depicting the Covenant does not apply to the Original Covenant, as Halo 4/Halo 5 never depicts the Original Covenant, it depicts Jul's New Covenant which is an entirely different group. The only new fiction the depicts the Original Covenant with that Symbol is Halo: Fleet Battles, wich is a board game. Here is the issue. | ::The concept of newer fiction superseding old would make sense if for example Halo Anniversary or Halo 2 Anniversary depicted the Covenant with that symbol, but it does not. Halo 4/Halo 5 using a Covenant symbol depicting the Covenant does not apply to the Original Covenant, as Halo 4/Halo 5 never depicts the Original Covenant, it depicts Jul's New Covenant which is an entirely different group. The only new fiction the depicts the Original Covenant with that Symbol is Halo: Fleet Battles, wich is a board game. Here is the issue. | ||
::Remember this, http://www.halopedia.org/Halopedia: | ::Remember this, http://www.halopedia.org/Halopedia:Canon_Policy#Hierarchy_of_canon. Halo Wars, Reach, 1-3's depiction of the Covenant Empire (Halo 4 and 5 doesn't depict the Covenant Empire btw, it depicts Jul's Covenant) is more canon than the depiction in Halo: Fleet Battles. Games supersede BoardGames and third party stuff in the Hierarchy of Canon. Because Halo Wars-Halo 3 are games, their representation of the Covenant takes canon over the Halo: Fleet Battles representation of the Covenant. http://www.halopedia.org/Halopedia:Canon_Policy#Hierarchy_of_canon.[[User:Editorguy|Editorguy]] ([[User talk:Editorguy|talk]]) 08:04, 23 November 2015 (EST) | ||
:::I'm not sure why invoke the hierarchy of canon when there is no evident contradiction in the first place. ''Halos'' 1-3 and ''Reach'' do ''not'' depict any symbol that can be conclusively identified as the official emblem of the Covenant at all while ''Fleet Battles'' does. In the absence of any hypothetical symbol that may be different from the one from ''Fleet Battles'' (the existence of which you're only ''assuming'') I don't see why not just use the one we have. --[[User:Jugus|<font color="MidnightBlue">'''Jugus'''</font>]] <small>([[User talk:Jugus|<font color="Gray">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jugus|<font color="Gray">Contribs</font>]])</small> 12:01, 23 November 2015 (EST) | :::I'm not sure why invoke the hierarchy of canon when there is no evident contradiction in the first place. ''Halos'' 1-3 and ''Reach'' do ''not'' depict any symbol that can be conclusively identified as the official emblem of the Covenant at all while ''Fleet Battles'' does. In the absence of any hypothetical symbol that may be different from the one from ''Fleet Battles'' (the existence of which you're only ''assuming'') I don't see why not just use the one we have. --[[User:Jugus|<font color="MidnightBlue">'''Jugus'''</font>]] <small>([[User talk:Jugus|<font color="Gray">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jugus|<font color="Gray">Contribs</font>]])</small> 12:01, 23 November 2015 (EST) |