Editing Talk:Cortana

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==Cortana's Halo 3 Dialogue Script==
Does anyone have a text script of Cortana's lines from Halo 3? They sound like they were recorded underwater; I can understand only a fraction of what she is saying (and apparently the subtitles option doesn't mean what I think it meant).

==Legendary Ending Rapancy Idea==
In the Legendary Ending, Cortana says "I'll drop a beacon. But it'll be a while before anyone finds us. '''Years, even.'''" The Masterchief then says "Wake me. '''When you need me,'''" and Cortana flashes him a worried look. I believe that "When you need me," is meant to mean "If you suffer any symptoms of Rampancy," because as this article mentions, Cortana is definitely at risk of early Rampancy. Also, although I can't be sure, could Cortana's Rampancy also be an explanation for the planet/Onyx/deathstar/whatever it is at the end accompanied by the trademark "Bad-stuff-is-going-to-happen" music (Cortana, in her rampancy, has steered them into a collision course with the planet (I actually believe that the collision course is the reason for the music in the first place - that it signifies the certain death of the Chief and Cortana)) [[User:Gazok]] [[Talk:Gazok]]

Never thought about that. Interusting idea. [[User:Trooper117|Trooper117]] 00:08, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

:Just correcting a mistake, as the ship was blasted in half Cortana couldn't have steered them towards the planet on purpose. [[User:Gazok]] [[Talk:Gazok]]
::OR isn't that good.--[[User:Cody6|cody6]] 05:07, 6 April 2008 (UTC)



== No First Strike? ==

There seems to be little mention of Cortana's experiences during First Strike which seem fairly significant in terms of her as a character and the reasonably extensive discussion on her possible rampancy.  In First Strike we learn she is carrying basically too much information about Halo around with her which has compromised her abilities.  This is demonstrated throughout the book as she is forgetful, slower than she should be and makes several mistakes which seem to concern her as she believes she wouldn't have made them before.  Furthermore this seems indicate she might have reduced her life span and is well on the way to rampancy. --[[User:Johnmcl7|Johnmcl7]] 04:10, 1 April 2007 (UTC)


== "Chief, leave me." ==

It notes that in the commercial (Starry Night) that Cortana's voice can be heard saying "Chief, leave me," under her role in Halo 3, but isn't this a quote from her from Halo 2? About leaving her in the High Charity computer to catch Truth's ride?  --[[User:VTSvsAlucard|VTSvsAlucard]] 06:37, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

Indeed that is a quote from Halo2, she will say it if you continue to stay in the final room of the level "High Chairity" near the conduit or her holo-terminel(? mis-spell)

== Megolomainia ==

in the level "Regret" in the central underwater room there is a massive 40'* tall holo-gram of Regret, and if the player stares at it long engough Cortana says "And people say I've got a big head?" because Regret is ranting about how he will "hunt down every last human" ect. I think this should be included with her ohter statment "and I'm not." in the artical.
*I think the room is about 5 stories high and the holo-gram is a little (with respect to the size of the room)below that so I assumed that it is 40 feet tall.

*I think it is fairly straight forward that in both statements she is merely joking, or replying to a popular joke among the Marines and Spartans that she's a bit loony.--[[User:Lieutenant Alan|Lieutenant Alan]] 11:20, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

*Or that she's smart.

== Relationship with Master Chief ==

I was thinking, should there be a separate or just simply an added section in some existing subtopics, about the relationship between Cortana and MC? Considering the things she says, they seem to share a bond. I'd say it's more of a sibling -like (you could say they've both "born" from Dr. Halsey), rather than a romantic one (even though it's vaguely hinted when MC leaves High Charity), but how about it?

Well look at the Love Story part below for an answer. But, yeah there could be a romantic relationship between the two.[[User:Trooper117|Trooper117]] 02:34, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

== Cortana gone mad? ==

At the end of H2 why didn't Cortana blow up In Amberclad after the MC left? She would have killed the Gravemine, I mean Gravemind, destroied the covenant holey city, destroied Installation 05, killed thousands of flood and covenant, and herself along with all of the human intel she knew, is she not willing to make that sacrifice, or just stupid? [[user:sogy|sogy]]


Well she didn't have the commanders transponder, she needed keys to do the POAs so she needs mirandas to do the In Amberclad

== Missions ==

Now that cortana is trapped with gravemind who is going too give the Master chief directions and objectives to finish this fight?--[[User:0nyx Sp1k3r|0nyx Sp1k3r]] 16:48, 28 April 2007 (UTC)BLARG!

mabie the unsc will message it to us on earth til cortana's saved.

In Halo CE the MC goes a long time without Cortana, well he dose have Guilty Spark for a wile but he's more than capable to be off by himself [[user:sogy|sogy]] 12:18, 1 May 2007 CE

But don't you need ''some'' directions for the players in at least a couple of levels?--[[User:0nyx Sp1k3r|0nyx Sp1k3r]] 19:25, 1 May 2007 (UTC)BLARG!!!

maybe another ai, or the unsc?

Arbiter and MC talking to one another? --[[User:Forgottenlord|Forgottenlord]] 02:00, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

Sergeant Johnson will direct us. Do what he says or you will be killed by him. --[[Image:Final Goji.jpg|30px]] [[User:Lordofmonsterisland| <font color="green">Lordofmonsterisland]]</font>[[User talk:Lordofmonsterisland| <font color="green">"Roar to me"</font>]] 15:21, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

== More rampancy ideas... ==

In the Halo CE level Two Betrayals, Cortana says: "Humans, Covenant, whatever! We're all equally edible."

I have an idea that, seeing as she was allready expressing some signs of rampancy (it mentioned them in The Flood, I think) Maybe she said "we're" instead of "you're" because, even though she works for the humans, she knows she's an AI, so it should be "you're", and she's saying we're either as she believes herself to be more than an AI (rampant) or she is trying to cover up her rampancy by associating herself with humans in her dialogue? Just an idea. [[User:Keyes|Keyes]] 06:14, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

::Worth noting by the way, she says in Halo: Combat Evolved, in the cutscene while heading for Halo "If I still had fingers, they'd be crossed." In my opinion it indicates that she sees herself as a human more than an AI. Perhaps she even thinks she's Dr. Halsey herself - she is, after all, cloned from her brain.

That's actually a very good idea.--[[User:0nyx Sp1k3r|0nyx Sp1k3r]] 19:28, 1 May 2007 (UTC)BLARG!!!

By "we", she meant "all non-flood lifeforms", so I don't really think it was rampancy.[[User:CaptJim|CaptJim]] 19:25, 27 May 2007 (UTC)

== "If I were a megalomanic, and I'm not..." ==

In the article this is suggested to be "saving herself from her own words" or something, which could mean rampancy. But Cortana obviously has a sense of humour, and this seemed to me that she was making a joke.

Where does it say cortana converts to the pigmant of green or pink when angry?[[User:Halo3|Halo3]] 01:31, 4 June 2007 (UTC)--Halo3

== Halo 3 Enemy ==
Who put that Cortana maybe the final boss. That comment is made for the talk page.[[User:Darth Gree|'''<font color="olive">Spartans</font>''']] [[User Talk:Darth Gree|'''<font color="brown">With</font>''']] [[Special:Contributions/Darth Gree|'''<font color="purple">SPI ROCK</font>''']]
[[Image:Bad_Ass_Spartan.JPG|20px]] 01:42, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

== I think Cortana is keeping information from the humans ==

In the Delta Halo cutscene when Miranda Keyes asks what Delta Halo is Cortana says, "That is another Halo" as if you see one every day. I think she knew there were 7 Halos out there (she was stuck in Alpha Halo's mainframe for 12 hours) but didn't tell anyone about it. --[[Image:Final Goji.jpg|30px]] [[User:Lordofmonsterisland| <font color="green">Lordofmonsterisland]]</font>[[User talk:Lordofmonsterisland| <font color="green">"Roar to me"</font>]] 15:28, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

:Didn't 343GS say something about the other Halos in Two Betrayals? --[[User:Forgottenlord|Forgottenlord]] 23:41, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

::Yeah, he says "Technically, this installation's pulse has a maximum effective radius of twenty-five thousand light years. But, once '''the others''' follow suit, this galaxy will be quite devoid of life, or at least any life with sufficient biomass to sustain the Flood." --[[Image:Corporal-gr1.gif|20px]][[User:MagickaMaster|<font color="2F 4F 4F">'''MagickaMaster'''</font>]] <sup>[[User talk:MagickaMaster|<font color="black">Talk</font>]]</sup><sub>[[Special:Contributions/MagickaMaster|<font color="black">Why you keep me around.</font>]]</sub> 20:01, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

==Starry Night Trailer==

I listened to the part where you can faintly hear Cortana. Someone earlier said it was the line from Halo 2, but she says it differently. In the game, she sounds almost calm, but in the trailer she sounds frantic to say whatever is is she's saying. And couldn't she also be saying "Chief, do you read me?"? Since Cortana isn't actually with the Chief, she could be trying to contact him or something... --[[Image:Corporal-gr1.gif|20px]][[User:MagickaMaster|<font color="2F 4F 4F">'''MagickaMaster'''</font>]] <sup>[[User talk:MagickaMaster|<font color="black">Talk</font>]]</sup><sub>[[Special:Contributions/MagickaMaster|<font color="black">Why you keep me around.</font>]]</sub> 19:58, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

== Quotes need desperate deletion. ==

And I mean it. I said it to the grunts article, I'm saying it here. I mean, a quote often has something valuable to say, something touching. Not "A Phantom!" or "Brutes". I'm not looking for anyone to blame, but those quotes really lowers the quality of the article.
Delete.
Immediately.
[[User:Troubleshooter|Trouble]][[User_talk:Troubleshooter|shooter]] 20:35, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

== Cortana on Highway ==

The IGN about the Highway campaign level and the Narrows map. It mentiones that she voice-overs the mission objective. It was a demo, so i'm thinking it was just for demo purpose.[[User:Trooper117|Trooper117]] 18:05, 17 August 2007 (UTC)


== LOVE STORY ==


LOVE STORY?! THAT WOULD RUIN THE ENTIRE PLOT!! I must know exactly were you found that. Uhh. since I'm not entirely sure about signing comments, yeah, you could find out who I was if you looked hard enough anyways.

Sorry I forgot to put up a new headline, but this'll most likely not be added on to anyways.

It has been hinted at from a lot of places but in a weekly update and I will quote what was in this update because it is easier, "Chris and I did a bunch of Interviews with European press, many of which will likely be translated into things like "Luke said there would be campaign Forge in Halo 17" and "Chris says that the love story between Cortana and the Master Chief is a key theme in Halo 3" -- oh, wait, of those two things one of them actually was said. "[http://www.bungie.net/News/content.aspx?type=topnews&cid=12740] So which one is more likely. I wonder. Anyway if I can find any other places, i'll let you people know.

P.S. My response to love story like this, ... EWWWWWW! How could a relationship at that level happen between a cyborg and an A.I. I don't even what to think about it. If you really don't see Cortana until level 8 of the Halo 3 campaign, I don't see had anything important could happen in two levels. [[User:Trooper117|Trooper117]] 02:32, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

Master chief is not a cyborg, period! and yes it would screw up the plot. [[User:Halonerd147|Halonerd147]] 19:31, 6 July 2008 (UTC)

== A quote regarding cortana ==

in the E3 06' trailer she does not say sheild. she says source. people probably put sword because it goes with sheid and starts wit an s.-[[User:Thegoodone|<font color="red">Thegoodone</font>]] [[Image:SSgt Avery Johnson, UNSC Marine Corps.JPG|20px]] [[User talk: Thegoodone|<font color="green">"Messages go here"</font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Thegoodone|What I've Done]] 00:15, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
:Wrong. She says "I am your shield, I am your sword." Confirmed by Frankie himself. -[[User:Azathoth|<font color="black">''theblackthrone''</font>]] [[User talk:Azathoth|<font color="black"><sub>(atthecenter)</sub></font>]]  [[Special:Contributions/Azathoth|<font color="black"><sub>(ofultimatechaos)</sub></font>]] 00:52, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

Yes, she does say ''Shield'' and she ''does'' say ''sword''--[[User:ChurchReborn|'''<font color="Gray">Church</font><font color="DarkGray">Re</font><font color="Silver">born-</font><font color="Black"></font>''']] [[Image:wolf3.jpg|25px]] <sup>[[User talk:ChurchReborn|<font color="green">GruntCorner</font>]]</sup><sub>[[Special:Contributions/ChurchReborn|<font color="orange">My Spam</font>]]</sub>

== Before 2550? ==

Post some proof or remove her "reqruitment" date. We dont have any date other than August of 2552 when she chose a Spartan (John) -- we dont know when she was created.

she wasn't created before 2550, she was created sometime before august of 2552 but not 2551 or earlier. [[User:Halonerd147|Halonerd147]] 19:33, 6 July 2008 (UTC)

== Cortana and the Spartan II project ==

Cortana was created as a Smart AI from a flash clone of Dr. Catherine Halsey's brain. She was originally created to assist one of the many Spartan-II's in their mission. She chose John (S-117), yet her creation and purpose are never mentioned throughout this Article about her, yet other information from "Fall of Reach" and "First Strike" is found here. I find this somewhat frightening to discover.

- SnoweyShadow, October 6th 2007 8:47pm EST

This makes me wonder about the true lifespan of Cortana. She was based on a brain flash-cloned from Dr. Halsey, which means she herself may be some kind of special A.I. Perhaps Halsey thought of Cortana as a daughter(which we know Cortana believes the vice versa of this) and made some modification somewhere that some how allowed Cortana an extended Lifespan.
As for considerations that she will die on the rear half of the Amber, would it not make sense if an A.I. were able to minimize it's own activity and effectively hibernate? Either way, I would even venture speculation that perhaps throughout her development that Dr. Halsey forced some kind of semi-rampancy that she personally guided. Of course much of this is barely, or completely, unfounded speculation.

- RadiationHazard, December 12th 2007 3:19 AM PST

== Cortana Quote and Father concept ==

Hey, I was wondering if her quote about being nothing more than her mother's shadow could somehow relate to the AI from Marathon...idk ne thing about the Marathon game, but in the trivia section it was said that the AI's name is related to a sword that gave birth to Cortana (there is an A.I. named Durandal which is the English name of "Durindana" which in the above legend is one of the swords which "gives birth" to Cortana) and I figure it could be possible that Durandal might be the mother she speaks of..but then again she may be refering to Dr. Halsey who 'abandoned' them in the book First strike...and for some reason I think I remember something about AI preceeding Cortana and spoken of in terms of preceding or following her chronologically, all made by Dr. Halsey.
Just wondering if the quote could be conected somehow to something Bungie has already given us about who Cortana means as her mother.

Well, I don't think the Marathon Game has anything to do with the plot, but thanks for pointing that out. [[User:Master Chief Petty Officer|'''ΜΆŜΤΈŖČΗέÏΣΡΈΤΤΥОΓΓïČëŗ''']] 11:20, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

:I think it pretty much means she's a temporary imprint of Dr. Hasley, being a flash clone of her brain and all.

==The Cortana Letters?==
I find it odd that there is no reference to [[Cortana Letters|the Cortana letters]] in this article, as several of her lines in Halo 3 seem to come from the letters.

I actually think that the Cortana Letter has nothing to do with Cortana, even though her quotes may come from the Letter, their's no way to put it up because Bungie has stated that the letter is considered as Canon! [[User:Master Chief Petty Officer|'''ΜΆŜΤΈŖČΗέÏΣΡΈΤΤΥОΓΓïČëŗ''']] 11:17, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

== Cortana VIdeo ==

I started a video visualizing Cortana's abilities in the images & video section. Would love anyone to contribute clips & photos showing Cortana's special abilities. Thx! [[User:ChrisF|ChrisF]] 13:54, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

== I dont understand... ==

you see and hear visions of her in halo 3 throughout the entire game. is this really her, or the gravemind talking through her?

and yes, i must admit, she is hot.
The Gravemind is talking through her, otherwise she's basically going rampant.[[User:Bllasae|Bllasae]]

:Something I don't understand is in regards to the Index, which Cortana kept from the first Halo and uses to destroy the new Halo. Articles are stating that she was physically holding it, but in the game it seems to be a digital image in itself, and that Cortana instead copied the Index's files into her memory system? Just wondering, haha. [[User:Meshgeroya|Meshgeroya]] 03:37, 6 July 2008 (UTC)

== Some vandel did bad things on this page ==

I Was Going to fix it but someone beat me to it but oh well i hope the person gets in troble for that.[[User:Shipmaster117|Shipmaster117]] 11:25, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

That was propabaly me.  Did it say at the top of the page a bunch of random cuss words?  [[User:Elite's Rule|Elite&#39;s Rule]] 22:30, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

I also edited stuff out something about cortanas boobs getting bigger everygame. LOLz.[[User:Spec-op sniper058|Spec-op sniper058]] 20:21, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

:Ironic, as it says that on Cortana's page on Gruntipedia.[[User: Thunderstream328|<font color="#4682B4">Thunderstream328</font>]] [[Image:Thunderstream328.jpg|15px]] <sub>[[User talk: Thunderstream328|<font color="#00BFFF">Here me rawr</font>]]</sub> <sub> [http://halo.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Contributions/Thunderstream328 <font color="1E90FF">Stuff I've done</font>]</sub> 20:25, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

== Edit at 05:51, 27 July 2008 by  76.169.237.224 (Talk) (→Captured) ==

IDK, but to me this edit seems to be fanfiction. Perhaps a source needs to be cited?

I was reading and I thought she will not be dead in halo 4 because the forerunners could keep there A.I. alive for endless amounts of time and she acesed their info. So hope im right.

It's speculation and should be deleted.  Please remember to sign your posts --[[User:Forgottenlord|forgottenlord]] 15:25, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
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-== Spoilers? ==
-Um, the game has been out 2 days.  Some of us haven't even had a chance to pick it up yet.  The Table of Contents for the character is effing full of spoilers.  Shouldn't there be a freaking buffer zone before spoilers are posted on the damn wiki?  [[Special:Contributions/173.30.230.156|173.30.230.156]] 00:42, 8 November 2012 (EST)
+==Cortana's Halo 3 Dialogue Script==
+Does anyone have a text script of Cortana's lines from Halo 3? They sound like they were recorded underwater; I can understand only a fraction of what she is saying (and apparently the subtitles option doesn't mean what I think it meant).
-Your surprised a website dedicated to giving all info had spoilers? I'm not trying to be rude, it just seems like commen sence to avoid major pages shortly after release. [[Special:Contributions/67.219.81.18|67.219.81.18]]
+==Legendary Ending Rapancy Idea==
+In the Legendary Ending, Cortana says "I'll drop a beacon. But it'll be a while before anyone finds us. '''Years, even.'''" The Masterchief then says "Wake me. '''When you need me,'''" and Cortana flashes him a worried look. I believe that "When you need me," is meant to mean "If you suffer any symptoms of Rampancy," because as this article mentions, Cortana is definitely at risk of early Rampancy. Also, although I can't be sure, could Cortana's Rampancy also be an explanation for the planet/Onyx/deathstar/whatever it is at the end accompanied by the trademark "Bad-stuff-is-going-to-happen" music (Cortana, in her rampancy, has steered them into a collision course with the planet (I actually believe that the collision course is the reason for the music in the first place - that it signifies the certain death of the Chief and Cortana)) [[User:Gazok]] [[Talk:Gazok]]
-:I agree with the anon above me. This website ''is'' a wiki, so naturally, your going to run up on spoilers; and with this wiki being very quick to upload new information, your going to find more spoilers here than your average ''Halo'' site. I would suggest avoiding the site all together if you don't want to encounter spoilers, because users are going to be uploading lots of information related to ''Halo 4'' now that the game has been released. {{User:Vadske/Sig}} 22:15, 29 November 2012 (EST)
+Never thought about that. Interusting idea. [[User:Trooper117|Trooper117]] 00:08, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
-==Logic Plague?==
+:Just correcting a mistake, as the ship was blasted in half Cortana couldn't have steered them towards the planet on purpose. [[User:Gazok]] [[Talk:Gazok]]
-I haven't been able to play the game yet, only watch a playthrough of the campaign. Do the audio data logs make it explicit that it's the Gravemind's logic plague causing Cortana's radical shift? Because from the campaign itself, it seems more the case that this is a continuation of Rampancy, particularly the god-like delusions part. -- [[User:Morhek|<b><font color=indigo>Qura 'Morhek</font></b>]] [[halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>The Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>of Morheka</sup></font></i></u>]] 07:38, 29 October 2015 (EDT)
+::OR isn't that good.--[[User:Cody6|cody6]] 05:07, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
-:I haven't found anything to indicate she's affected by the logic plague. Given how some of Cortana's final words in ''Halo 4'' are, "Most of me is down there," Domain!Cortana is almost certainly an almagamation of the original's rampant personality fragments, logic plague or not. Alas, ''Halo 5'' never brings this up in any fashion. --[[User:Braidenvl|<span style="color:gray">'''''Our answer is at hand.'''''</span>]] [[File:Gravemind.svg|14px]] ([[User talk:Braidenvl|<span style="color:gray">Talk to me.</span>]]) 09:43, 29 October 2015 (EDT)
-:::I thought entering the Domain eliminated her rampancy? Cortana is essentially the reincarnation of Mendicant Bias, yea?--[[User:DC Ambrose|DC Ambrose]] ([[User talk:DC Ambrose|talk]]) 09:44, 29 October 2015 (EDT)
-:If I may offer my opinion, I think that it's more simple than that. Granted, I've only seen walkthroughs, but Cortana only became like that after uploading herself into the Domain, right? What do we know of the Domain? It's a ''Precursor construct''. I think the Domain might have corrupted Cortana the same way the Gravemind corrupted the Didact and turned her just as megalomaniacal as those two. All to further the Precursor's / Gravemind's plan to make all life suffer. Either that, or a combination of the Gravemind's torture and the Domain's influence. What do you think of this hypothesis? [[Special:Contributions/78.20.131.40|78.20.131.40]] 13:42, 29 October 2015 (EDT)
-:Cortana is clearly not herself but I don't think we can cry Logic Plague just yet. The Domain might have been used to overload Mendicant with information, thus making him susceptible to the Gravemind, But it was the fact that the Forerunners had usurped the Mantle and established a stagnate police state that was used as leverage to turn him. The Domain appears to be neutral. It warned Bornstellar. It helped the Librarian. But it also messed with the Didact a bit... he isn't very clear, just that he was shown Forerunner descendants. So while something is to blame for her change of heart, I don't think we can blame the Flood or Precursors yet. They might have made the Domain, but it did not act in their interest near the end of the war, as it showed the Librarian a path to trick the Gravemind into leading a large number of Star Roads to Earth. Thus allowing the Halo effect to terminate them without the question of slipspace. Why would the Domain give the Librarian the means to annihilate the very neural physics architecture that protected it and bound it to reality? [[User:ProphetofTruth|ProphetofTruth]] ([[User talk:ProphetofTruth|talk]]) 13:51, 29 October 2015 (EDT)
+== No First Strike? ==
-:I start to consider that Cortana may cured from rampancy but but from her status as "Corrupted". She was, after all corrupted by Gravemind through tortures of logic which makes Gravemind's logic plague could really affect her much even she was cured from rampancy. You may can cure the programs that went wild by reprogramming but like a virus, the plague keeps coming back so i start to consider that Cortana may suffer Logic Plague up to this point. Mendicant Bias is also the same where the Gravemind infest it with logic plague to where it comes to rampancy. UNSC case is quite different since they have regulations for AI of seven years lifespan services. Perhaps when she was cured of rampancy, she believe that she was liberated however Gravemind's plague logic is still emblazoned on her unconsciously by taking Mantle of Responsibility for herself. [[User:Ramero|Ramero]] ([[User talk:Ramero|talk]]) 09:54, 16 June 2017 (EDT)
+There seems to be little mention of Cortana's experiences during First Strike which seem fairly significant in terms of her as a character and the reasonably extensive discussion on her possible rampancy.  In First Strike we learn she is carrying basically too much information about Halo around with her which has compromised her abilities.  This is demonstrated throughout the book as she is forgetful, slower than she should be and makes several mistakes which seem to concern her as she believes she wouldn't have made them before.  Furthermore this seems indicate she might have reduced her life span and is well on the way to rampancy. --[[User:Johnmcl7|Johnmcl7]] 04:10, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
-:Something to consider that I noticed, replaying Halo 5. When you meet Governor Sloan, and he's all screwed up in voice and avatar, Tanaka states that it's the "early stages of Rampancy on-set." Well, we never see Cortana get that bad. The most we see is her arguing with herself, which could be attributed to the Logic Plague. What's more, when she tries to kill the Chief in Halo 4: Forward Unto Dawn, the data streams that come out of her Avatar do somewhat resemble Flood tentacles.--[[User:The Ragin Pagan|The Ragin Pagan]] ([[User talk:The Ragin Pagan|talk]]) 10:03, April 25, 2021 (EDT)
-== New pro pic suggestion. ==
+== "Chief, leave me." ==
-[[File:CortanaH5.png|thumbnail]]
+It notes that in the commercial (Starry Night) that Cortana's voice can be heard saying "Chief, leave me," under her role in Halo 3, but isn't this a quote from her from Halo 2? About leaving her in the High Charity computer to catch Truth's ride?  --[[User:VTSvsAlucard|VTSvsAlucard]] 06:37, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
-[[User:Guardian117|Guardian117]] ([[User talk:Guardian117|talk]]) 17:45, 18 November 2015 (EST)
-:It's not that different from the current pic and lacks [[Wikipedia:Headroom (photographic framing)|Headroom]]. If we were to put it in the infobox, it would look cramped and chopped off. [[User:Tuckerscreator|<span style="color:#6600cc;">'''''Tuckerscreator'''''</span>]]<sup>([[User talk:Tuckerscreator|<font color="#008000">stalk</font>]])</sup> 18:01, 18 November 2015 (EST)
+Indeed that is a quote from Halo2, she will say it if you continue to stay in the final room of the level "High Chairity" near the conduit or her holo-terminel(? mis-spell)
-::Agreed. --[[User:NightHammer|<span style="color: #2B1AAA;">'''NightHammer'''</span>]]''<sup>[[User talk:NightHammer|<span style="color: #2B1AAA;">(talk)</span>]]</sup><sup>[[Special:Contributions/NightHammer|<span style="color: #2B1AAA;">(contribs)</span>]]</sup>'' 18:05, 18 November 2015 (EST)
+== Megolomainia ==
-closer up and doesnt have that retarded face in the other one. this is clearly much better.[[Special:Contributions/70.190.250.193|70.190.250.193]] 18:22, 18 November 2015 (EST)
+in the level "Regret" in the central underwater room there is a massive 40'* tall holo-gram of Regret, and if the player stares at it long engough Cortana says "And people say I've got a big head?" because Regret is ranting about how he will "hunt down every last human" ect. I think this should be included with her ohter statment "and I'm not." in the artical.
+*I think the room is about 5 stories high and the holo-gram is a little (with respect to the size of the room)below that so I assumed that it is 40 feet tall.
-That is smiling and this one is with her mouth open. If you are going to say the word "retarded" at the very least use it in the correct meaning [[User:Alertfiend|Alertfiend]] - [[Blue Team|Team Chief]] 20:29, 18 November 2015 (EST)
+*I think it is fairly straight forward that in both statements she is merely joking, or replying to a popular joke among the Marines and Spartans that she's a bit loony.--[[User:Lieutenant Alan|Lieutenant Alan]] 11:20, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
-==Quote==
+*Or that she's smart.
-So does anyone have any suggestions for a new quote at the top, or shall we keep the current one? [[User:Alertfiend|Alertfiend]] - [[Blue Team|Team Chief]] 16:26, 28 November 2015 (EST)
-:The current quote is decent, though if it were to be replaced, I'd suggest using one when she talks about her new views on the Mantle. --[[User:NightHammer|<span style="color: #2B1AAA;">'''NightHammer'''</span>]]''<sup>[[User talk:NightHammer|<span style="color: #2B1AAA;">(talk)</span>]]</sup><sup>[[Special:Contributions/NightHammer|<span style="color: #2B1AAA;">(contribs)</span>]]</sup>'' 16:29, 28 November 2015 (EST)
+== Relationship with Master Chief ==
-I'll try to combe through when I get back from work, other people are welcome. [[User:Alertfiend|Alertfiend]] - [[Blue Team|Team Chief]] 16:33, 28 November 2015 (EST)
+I was thinking, should there be a separate or just simply an added section in some existing subtopics, about the relationship between Cortana and MC? Considering the things she says, they seem to share a bond. I'd say it's more of a sibling -like (you could say they've both "born" from Dr. Halsey), rather than a romantic one (even though it's vaguely hinted when MC leaves High Charity), but how about it?
-the most famous is the promise quote lets do that one.--[[User:Guardian117|Guardian117]] ([[User talk:Guardian117|talk]]) 17:36, 28 November 2015 (EST)
+Well look at the Love Story part below for an answer. But, yeah there could be a romantic relationship between the two.[[User:Trooper117|Trooper117]] 02:34, 2 September 2007 (UTC)
-How would that quote be relevant to her current status? And it is far from the most "famous" quote of Cortana. [[User:Alertfiend|Alertfiend]] - [[Blue Team|Team Chief]] 17:48, 28 November 2015 (EST)
+== Cortana gone mad? ==
-Becuase Chief failed to save her? it'd be a pretty fitting and ironic quote. Nope it definitely is. aside from the natrual formation quote which is more of a humorous one.--[[User:Guardian117|Guardian117]] ([[User talk:Guardian117|talk]]) 18:38, 28 November 2015 (EST)
+At the end of H2 why didn't Cortana blow up In Amberclad after the MC left? She would have killed the Gravemine, I mean Gravemind, destroied the covenant holey city, destroied Installation 05, killed thousands of flood and covenant, and herself along with all of the human intel she knew, is she not willing to make that sacrifice, or just stupid? [[user:sogy|sogy]]
-== new pic ==
-[[File:H5-Cortana.png|thumb]]
+Well she didn't have the commanders transponder, she needed keys to do the POAs so she needs mirandas to do the In Amberclad
-Headshot and not a werid face.--[[User:Guardian117|Guardian117]] ([[User talk:Guardian117|talk]]) 18:14, 28 November 2015 (EST)
-Look above. [[User:Alertfiend|Alertfiend]] - [[Blue Team|Team Chief]] 18:29, 28 November 2015 (EST)
+== Missions ==
-head isnt cut off in this one...--[[User:Guardian117|Guardian117]] ([[User talk:Guardian117|talk]]) 18:36, 28 November 2015 (EST)
+Now that cortana is trapped with gravemind who is going too give the Master chief directions and objectives to finish this fight?--[[User:0nyx Sp1k3r|0nyx Sp1k3r]] 16:48, 28 April 2007 (UTC)BLARG!
-https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Headroom_(photographic_framing) <-- I will just leave this here. [[User:Alertfiend|Alertfiend]] - [[Blue Team|Team Chief]] 18:47, 28 November 2015 (EST)
+mabie the unsc will message it to us on earth til cortana's saved.
-== Brother/Sister ==
+In Halo CE the MC goes a long time without Cortana, well he dose have Guilty Spark for a wile but he's more than capable to be off by himself [[user:sogy|sogy]] 12:18, 1 May 2007 CE
-I was reading ''First Strike'' and came across [[https://books.google.com/books?id=DmdFf5PnB4wC&pg=PA286&lpg=PA286&dq=Cortana+and+Chief+brother+and+sister&source=bl&ots=FuUJU8G2gr&sig=tzxq8IwucYm6OYrR_FfMCiZdKTM&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiM8eyXtIfMAhWBwiYKHXBSDggQ6AEIYzAM#v=onepage&q=Cortana%20and%20Chief%20brother%20and%20sister&f=false|this]] I thought might be worth mentioning.
+But don't you need ''some'' directions for the players in at least a couple of levels?--[[User:0nyx Sp1k3r|0nyx Sp1k3r]] 19:25, 1 May 2007 (UTC)BLARG!!!
-*"Are all other hands on board accounted for?" the Master Chief asked.
+maybe another ai, or the unsc?
-*"Yes, Chief. They are all engaged in repairs to the conjoined ships. We took tremendous damage in the expanded Slipspace from plasma bombardments and mass impacts. Both ship's superstructures, however, remain intact. The ''Gettysburg's'' reactor is online and operating at sixty-seven percent capacity. ''Ascendant Justice's'' reactor is offline undergoing repairs. Five of our seven plasma turrets require refit. And worst, ''Ascendant Justice's'' engines are crippled. We have less than three percent operational thrust."
-*"Can the ship still jump to Slipspace? Are we stranded out here?"
-*"A jump is possible," Cortana said. '''She shook her head the way an older sister might when her baby brother asked a naive question.''' "It wouldn't do us any good, though. The alien artifact in Doctor Halsey's possession emits high levels of radiation in Slipspace. This unknown radiation even penetrates your suit's shields. I estimate lethal exposure in just under seventy-two hours. Also, that radiation would serve as a beacon for any Covenant ships prowling Slipspace, searching for us."
-You can wave it away as mere writing style if you like, but my interpretation is of the literal sense. Cortana isn't 'in love' with Master Chief, or vice-versa, but they certain love each other and it is certainly a relationship that extends beyond friendship. I think their "sibling" status (both created by Halsey as we know them) is worth mentioning. Not worth mentioning, is my theory that ''Halo 5's'' events are a worst-case scenario of sibling rivalry. It makes sense if you think about it. --[[User:Abbazorkzog|Abbazorkzog]] ([[User talk:Abbazorkzog|talk]]) 16:31, 11 April 2016 (EDT)
+Arbiter and MC talking to one another? --[[User:Forgottenlord|Forgottenlord]] 02:00, 14 July 2007 (UTC)
-:Haha worst sibling rivalry. I see it more as a second break up since [[Warden Eternal]] is her new overprotective boyfriend, and doesn't approve of John trying to talk to her after their first break up.[[User:Editorguy|Editorguy]] ([[User talk:Editorguy|talk]]) 08:21, 26 August 2016 (EDT)
-==In The Games?==
+Sergeant Johnson will direct us. Do what he says or you will be killed by him. --[[Image:Final Goji.jpg|30px]] [[User:Lordofmonsterisland| <font color="green">Lordofmonsterisland]]</font>[[User talk:Lordofmonsterisland| <font color="green">"Roar to me"</font>]] 15:21, 28 July 2007 (UTC)
-What is this new "in the games" section at the top of the article? This seems so out of place and should just be included in her personality and traits section, if it should even be included at all (which I doubt it should be).
-:This section shouldn't be there. Remove it if it is added back.[[User:BaconShelf|BaconShelf]] ([[User talk:BaconShelf|talk]]) 18:23, May 13, 2020 (EDT)
-::Will do.[[User:TheArb1ter117|TheArb1ter117]] ([[User talk:TheArb1ter117|talk]]) 17:17, May 14, 2020 (EDT)
-==Cloning Ability==
+== More rampancy ideas... ==
-In which book is it stated that Cortana captured a Covenant AI and from there learned how to clone herself? I remembered that being an ability she had from the very beginning, before she had encountered any sort of Covenant AI.--[[User:The Ragin Pagan|The Ragin Pagan]] ([[User talk:The Ragin Pagan|talk]]) 10:03, April 25, 2021 (EDT)
+In the Halo CE level Two Betrayals, Cortana says: "Humans, Covenant, whatever! We're all equally edible."
+I have an idea that, seeing as she was allready expressing some signs of rampancy (it mentioned them in The Flood, I think) Maybe she said "we're" instead of "you're" because, even though she works for the humans, she knows she's an AI, so it should be "you're", and she's saying we're either as she believes herself to be more than an AI (rampant) or she is trying to cover up her rampancy by associating herself with humans in her dialogue? Just an idea. [[User:Keyes|Keyes]] 06:14, 1 May 2007 (UTC)
+::Worth noting by the way, she says in Halo: Combat Evolved, in the cutscene while heading for Halo "If I still had fingers, they'd be crossed." In my opinion it indicates that she sees herself as a human more than an AI. Perhaps she even thinks she's Dr. Halsey herself - she is, after all, cloned from her brain.
+That's actually a very good idea.--[[User:0nyx Sp1k3r|0nyx Sp1k3r]] 19:28, 1 May 2007 (UTC)BLARG!!!
+By "we", she meant "all non-flood lifeforms", so I don't really think it was rampancy.[[User:CaptJim|CaptJim]] 19:25, 27 May 2007 (UTC)
+== "If I were a megalomanic, and I'm not..." ==
+In the article this is suggested to be "saving herself from her own words" or something, which could mean rampancy. But Cortana obviously has a sense of humour, and this seemed to me that she was making a joke.
+Where does it say cortana converts to the pigmant of green or pink when angry?[[User:Halo3|Halo3]] 01:31, 4 June 2007 (UTC)--Halo3
+== Halo 3 Enemy ==
+Who put that Cortana maybe the final boss. That comment is made for the talk page.[[User:Darth Gree|'''<font color="olive">Spartans</font>''']] [[User Talk:Darth Gree|'''<font color="brown">With</font>''']] [[Special:Contributions/Darth Gree|'''<font color="purple">SPI ROCK</font>''']]
+[[Image:Bad_Ass_Spartan.JPG|20px]] 01:42, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
+== I think Cortana is keeping information from the humans ==
+In the Delta Halo cutscene when Miranda Keyes asks what Delta Halo is Cortana says, "That is another Halo" as if you see one every day. I think she knew there were 7 Halos out there (she was stuck in Alpha Halo's mainframe for 12 hours) but didn't tell anyone about it. --[[Image:Final Goji.jpg|30px]] [[User:Lordofmonsterisland| <font color="green">Lordofmonsterisland]]</font>[[User talk:Lordofmonsterisland| <font color="green">"Roar to me"</font>]] 15:28, 28 July 2007 (UTC)
+:Didn't 343GS say something about the other Halos in Two Betrayals? --[[User:Forgottenlord|Forgottenlord]] 23:41, 28 July 2007 (UTC)
+::Yeah, he says "Technically, this installation's pulse has a maximum effective radius of twenty-five thousand light years. But, once '''the others''' follow suit, this galaxy will be quite devoid of life, or at least any life with sufficient biomass to sustain the Flood." --[[Image:Corporal-gr1.gif|20px]][[User:MagickaMaster|<font color="2F 4F 4F">'''MagickaMaster'''</font>]] <sup>[[User talk:MagickaMaster|<font color="black">Talk</font>]]</sup><sub>[[Special:Contributions/MagickaMaster|<font color="black">Why you keep me around.</font>]]</sub> 20:01, 5 August 2007 (UTC)
+==Starry Night Trailer==
+I listened to the part where you can faintly hear Cortana. Someone earlier said it was the line from Halo 2, but she says it differently. In the game, she sounds almost calm, but in the trailer she sounds frantic to say whatever is is she's saying. And couldn't she also be saying "Chief, do you read me?"? Since Cortana isn't actually with the Chief, she could be trying to contact him or something... --[[Image:Corporal-gr1.gif|20px]][[User:MagickaMaster|<font color="2F 4F 4F">'''MagickaMaster'''</font>]] <sup>[[User talk:MagickaMaster|<font color="black">Talk</font>]]</sup><sub>[[Special:Contributions/MagickaMaster|<font color="black">Why you keep me around.</font>]]</sub> 19:58, 5 August 2007 (UTC)
+== Quotes need desperate deletion. ==
+And I mean it. I said it to the grunts article, I'm saying it here. I mean, a quote often has something valuable to say, something touching. Not "A Phantom!" or "Brutes". I'm not looking for anyone to blame, but those quotes really lowers the quality of the article.
+Delete.
+Immediately.
+[[User:Troubleshooter|Trouble]][[User_talk:Troubleshooter|shooter]] 20:35, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
+== Cortana on Highway ==
+The IGN about the Highway campaign level and the Narrows map. It mentiones that she voice-overs the mission objective. It was a demo, so i'm thinking it was just for demo purpose.[[User:Trooper117|Trooper117]] 18:05, 17 August 2007 (UTC)
+== LOVE STORY ==
+LOVE STORY?! THAT WOULD RUIN THE ENTIRE PLOT!! I must know exactly were you found that. Uhh. since I'm not entirely sure about signing comments, yeah, you could find out who I was if you looked hard enough anyways.
+Sorry I forgot to put up a new headline, but this'll most likely not be added on to anyways.
+It has been hinted at from a lot of places but in a weekly update and I will quote what was in this update because it is easier, "Chris and I did a bunch of Interviews with European press, many of which will likely be translated into things like "Luke said there would be campaign Forge in Halo 17" and "Chris says that the love story between Cortana and the Master Chief is a key theme in Halo 3" -- oh, wait, of those two things one of them actually was said. "[http://www.bungie.net/News/content.aspx?type=topnews&cid=12740] So which one is more likely. I wonder. Anyway if I can find any other places, i'll let you people know.
+P.S. My response to love story like this, ... EWWWWWW! How could a relationship at that level happen between a cyborg and an A.I. I don't even what to think about it. If you really don't see Cortana until level 8 of the Halo 3 campaign, I don't see had anything important could happen in two levels. [[User:Trooper117|Trooper117]] 02:32, 2 September 2007 (UTC)
+Master chief is not a cyborg, period! and yes it would screw up the plot. [[User:Halonerd147|Halonerd147]] 19:31, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
+== A quote regarding cortana ==
+in the E3 06' trailer she does not say sheild. she says source. people probably put sword because it goes with sheid and starts wit an s.-[[User:Thegoodone|<font color="red">Thegoodone</font>]] [[Image:SSgt Avery Johnson, UNSC Marine Corps.JPG|20px]] [[User talk: Thegoodone|<font color="green">"Messages go here"</font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Thegoodone|What I've Done]] 00:15, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
+:Wrong. She says "I am your shield, I am your sword." Confirmed by Frankie himself. -[[User:Azathoth|<font color="black">''theblackthrone''</font>]] [[User talk:Azathoth|<font color="black"><sub>(atthecenter)</sub></font>]]  [[Special:Contributions/Azathoth|<font color="black"><sub>(ofultimatechaos)</sub></font>]] 00:52, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
+Yes, she does say ''Shield'' and she ''does'' say ''sword''--[[User:ChurchReborn|'''<font color="Gray">Church</font><font color="DarkGray">Re</font><font color="Silver">born-</font><font color="Black"></font>''']] [[Image:wolf3.jpg|25px]] <sup>[[User talk:ChurchReborn|<font color="green">GruntCorner</font>]]</sup><sub>[[Special:Contributions/ChurchReborn|<font color="orange">My Spam</font>]]</sub>
+== Before 2550? ==
+Post some proof or remove her "reqruitment" date. We dont have any date other than August of 2552 when she chose a Spartan (John) -- we dont know when she was created.
+she wasn't created before 2550, she was created sometime before august of 2552 but not 2551 or earlier. [[User:Halonerd147|Halonerd147]] 19:33, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
+== Cortana and the Spartan II project ==
+Cortana was created as a Smart AI from a flash clone of Dr. Catherine Halsey's brain. She was originally created to assist one of the many Spartan-II's in their mission. She chose John (S-117), yet her creation and purpose are never mentioned throughout this Article about her, yet other information from "Fall of Reach" and "First Strike" is found here. I find this somewhat frightening to discover.
+- SnoweyShadow, October 6th 2007 8:47pm EST
+This makes me wonder about the true lifespan of Cortana. She was based on a brain flash-cloned from Dr. Halsey, which means she herself may be some kind of special A.I. Perhaps Halsey thought of Cortana as a daughter(which we know Cortana believes the vice versa of this) and made some modification somewhere that some how allowed Cortana an extended Lifespan.
+As for considerations that she will die on the rear half of the Amber, would it not make sense if an A.I. were able to minimize it's own activity and effectively hibernate? Either way, I would even venture speculation that perhaps throughout her development that Dr. Halsey forced some kind of semi-rampancy that she personally guided. Of course much of this is barely, or completely, unfounded speculation.
+- RadiationHazard, December 12th 2007 3:19 AM PST
+== Cortana Quote and Father concept ==
+Hey, I was wondering if her quote about being nothing more than her mother's shadow could somehow relate to the AI from Marathon...idk ne thing about the Marathon game, but in the trivia section it was said that the AI's name is related to a sword that gave birth to Cortana (there is an A.I. named Durandal which is the English name of "Durindana" which in the above legend is one of the swords which "gives birth" to Cortana) and I figure it could be possible that Durandal might be the mother she speaks of..but then again she may be refering to Dr. Halsey who 'abandoned' them in the book First strike...and for some reason I think I remember something about AI preceeding Cortana and spoken of in terms of preceding or following her chronologically, all made by Dr. Halsey.
+Just wondering if the quote could be conected somehow to something Bungie has already given us about who Cortana means as her mother.
+Well, I don't think the Marathon Game has anything to do with the plot, but thanks for pointing that out. [[User:Master Chief Petty Officer|'''ΜΆŜΤΈŖČΗέÏΣΡΈΤΤΥОΓΓïČëŗ''']] 11:20, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
+:I think it pretty much means she's a temporary imprint of Dr. Hasley, being a flash clone of her brain and all.
+==The Cortana Letters?==
+I find it odd that there is no reference to [[Cortana Letters|the Cortana letters]] in this article, as several of her lines in Halo 3 seem to come from the letters.
+I actually think that the Cortana Letter has nothing to do with Cortana, even though her quotes may come from the Letter, their's no way to put it up because Bungie has stated that the letter is considered as Canon! [[User:Master Chief Petty Officer|'''ΜΆŜΤΈŖČΗέÏΣΡΈΤΤΥОΓΓïČëŗ''']] 11:17, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
+== Cortana VIdeo ==
+I started a video visualizing Cortana's abilities in the images & video section. Would love anyone to contribute clips & photos showing Cortana's special abilities. Thx! [[User:ChrisF|ChrisF]] 13:54, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
+== I dont understand... ==
+you see and hear visions of her in halo 3 throughout the entire game. is this really her, or the gravemind talking through her?
+and yes, i must admit, she is hot.
+The Gravemind is talking through her, otherwise she's basically going rampant.[[User:Bllasae|Bllasae]]
+:Something I don't understand is in regards to the Index, which Cortana kept from the first Halo and uses to destroy the new Halo. Articles are stating that she was physically holding it, but in the game it seems to be a digital image in itself, and that Cortana instead copied the Index's files into her memory system? Just wondering, haha. [[User:Meshgeroya|Meshgeroya]] 03:37, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
+== Some vandel did bad things on this page ==
+I Was Going to fix it but someone beat me to it but oh well i hope the person gets in troble for that.[[User:Shipmaster117|Shipmaster117]] 11:25, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
+That was propabaly me.  Did it say at the top of the page a bunch of random cuss words?  [[User:Elite's Rule|Elite&#39;s Rule]] 22:30, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
+I also edited stuff out something about cortanas boobs getting bigger everygame. LOLz.[[User:Spec-op sniper058|Spec-op sniper058]] 20:21, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
+:Ironic, as it says that on Cortana's page on Gruntipedia.[[User: Thunderstream328|<font color="#4682B4">Thunderstream328</font>]] [[Image:Thunderstream328.jpg|15px]] <sub>[[User talk: Thunderstream328|<font color="#00BFFF">Here me rawr</font>]]</sub> <sub> [http://halo.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Contributions/Thunderstream328 <font color="1E90FF">Stuff I've done</font>]</sub> 20:25, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
+== Edit at 05:51, 27 July 2008 by  76.169.237.224 (Talk) (→Captured) ==
+IDK, but to me this edit seems to be fanfiction. Perhaps a source needs to be cited?
+I was reading and I thought she will not be dead in halo 4 because the forerunners could keep there A.I. alive for endless amounts of time and she acesed their info. So hope im right.
+It's speculation and should be deleted.  Please remember to sign your posts --[[User:Forgottenlord|forgottenlord]] 15:25, 11 August 2008 (UTC)