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| ==Tartarus's Combat Skin a 12?== | | ==Tartarus's Combat Skin a 12?== |
| *maybe tartarus used a lvel 12 in halo 2 -- 189.146.179.87 23:21, 23 October 2006 | | *maybe tartarus used a lvel 12 in halo 2 -- 189.146.179.87 23:21, 23 October 2006 |
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| ==Combat Skin Theories== | | ==Combat Skin Theories== |
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| ===Forerunner are in Human Brains=== | | ===Forerunner are in Human Brains=== |
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| It could also explain why all the doors on Halo are different sizes, because depending on which being the Forerunners were inhabiting, different sized portals may have been necessary. The idea that GS isn't actually talking to the Chief could account for the perception that GS thinks the Chief has set off Halo before - he doesn't think the Chief has at all, as he is actually addressing the Forerunner in John 117's head, who have/has set Halo off before, and having done so were forced to inhabit the forms of the very creatures they sought to contain. | | It could also explain why all the doors on Halo are different sizes, because depending on which being the Forerunners were inhabiting, different sized portals may have been necessary. The idea that GS isn't actually talking to the Chief could account for the perception that GS thinks the Chief has set off Halo before - he doesn't think the Chief has at all, as he is actually addressing the Forerunner in John 117's head, who have/has set Halo off before, and having done so were forced to inhabit the forms of the very creatures they sought to contain. |
| :this is backed by the fact that [[343 Guilty Spark]] says when they are ready to set off halo "last time you asked me, if it was my choise would i do it". -- [[User:Climax Viod]] 09:45, 13 August 2006 | | :this is backed by the fact that [[343 Guilty Spark]] says when they are ready to set off halo "last time you asked me, if it was my choise would i do it". -- [[User:Climax Viod]] 09:45, 13 August 2006 |
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| Ah, but Cortana also says in the cutscene afterwards that she spent 12 hours preventing the chief and guilty spark from getting to the index, while the Library only takes like 40 minutes to play if you take it at a normal pace. It can be assumed that Canonically it took longer- therefore there may have been unheard conversations between the chief and guilty spark. The chief probably asked 343 if he would do it, assuming that the reason not to activate halo is that 343 also wants to keep studying the flood.
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| CGD 3 august 2007
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| Several things should probably be noted here...
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| * Human physiology is markedly different than any other race in Halo (save the Brutes, but they're far too large to be mistaken for humans, and Mendicant Bias/ The Terminals seem to be able to scan genetic compositions), and as such a Mark V would be recognizable as "human" solely because they're the right size and shape to use it.
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| * The MJOLNIR armor is recognized by the Monitor as a combat skin, even if it is of a comparably weak variety, meaning he could have been been like "oh hai that b mah dudez". As for him confusing the Chief with the guy who lit off the rings last time, it could quite possibly be that the old Forerunner was using similar armor.
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| * 343 Guilty Spark is rampant.
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| SUBLIMEinal 3.4.08
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| ===Shielding Technology=== | | ===Shielding Technology=== |
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| :However, in [[Halo: The Flood]], the Master Chief upon hearing this, thinks, "If there's a battle suit six times as powerful as the MJOLNIR armor, I'll be first in line to try it on," implying that the Combat Skin classes are indeed ranked in an arithmetic sequence. -- [[User:Azathoth]] 23:12, 5 March 2007 | | :However, in [[Halo: The Flood]], the Master Chief upon hearing this, thinks, "If there's a battle suit six times as powerful as the MJOLNIR armor, I'll be first in line to try it on," implying that the Combat Skin classes are indeed ranked in an arithmetic sequence. -- [[User:Azathoth]] 23:12, 5 March 2007 |
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| :Also, as the monitor says he told the cheif to UPGRADE his combat skin occasionally when he dies, it is more likely that the combat skin levels refer to the outright strength and usefulness of the armour/shield generator that one would wear/use.
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| Agreeing with above. It would also make sense, as the Forerunners were ordering their military into lower-powered skins in areas of space saturated with the Flood (as they would be fighting the Flood more), possibly meaning that they feared having their own super-armors thrown back at them, only filled with parasites.
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| I disagree. Terminal 4's message is right after Medicant Bias went weird. I think it is his attempt to kill his crews.[[User:92.3.170.160|92.3.170.160]] 03:41, 9 April 2008 (UTC)
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| == class 3 combat skin == | | == class 3 combat skin == |
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| Furthermore... Mk.1 was hooked directly to a reactor and is superior to mk.3 through mk.5. It's just completely impractical and immobile. If mk.1 or mk.2 was free of the generator and had infinite power… it would probably be the 12 Guilty was referring to. Think evangelion...and that's mk.1 and mk.2. -A man of taste and decency | | Furthermore... Mk.1 was hooked directly to a reactor and is superior to mk.3 through mk.5. It's just completely impractical and immobile. If mk.1 or mk.2 was free of the generator and had infinite power… it would probably be the 12 Guilty was referring to. Think evangelion...and that's mk.1 and mk.2. -A man of taste and decency |
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| Mk.1 would still be inferior to 4 and 5. It may offer more protection against direct weapons fire, but even without cables it was still slow as hell. Sure that was tough, but it wouldn't have helped against getting stuck by 3 plasma grenades because the controller couldn't get out of the way.
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| --[[User:CGD|CGD]] 19:24, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
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| The article says where it got the information from, there's no need for additional citations.--[[User:Raptor117|Raptor117]] 02:40, 13 March 2007 (UTC) | | The article says where it got the information from, there's no need for additional citations.--[[User:Raptor117|Raptor117]] 02:40, 13 March 2007 (UTC) |
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| ==level 12==
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| I would love to play halo 3 in a class 12 Combat Skin. Now thats protection![[User:Sgt.johnson|AJ]] 00:10, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
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| == Armor or Armour? ==
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| I think there at least needs to be a re-direct for the word "Armour" as that's the correct spelling around the world, as "Armor" as far as I know is only used in America.
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| Cheers.
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| ==Possible Forerunner Armor==
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| http://www.ascendantjustice.com/files/voc/followup/08.jpg
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| Sure, it looks like a fish head, but if you look inside, you'll see the outline of what looks like a human.
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| :Maybe... maybe not... it looks more like a Flood form (unknown) rather than an armour if you look the tendrils sticking behind...-<b>[[User:Subtank|<font color="gold"><font color="#FF4F00">5</font>ub<font color="#FF4F00">7</font>ank</font>]]<sup>([[User talk:Subtank|<font color="#FF4F00">7alk</font>]])</sup></b> 20:08, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
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| ==Is Mark V similar to forerunner armor==
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| I forgot where but I read and heard that the reason 343 Guilty Spark helped Spartan-117 was because his armor was similar to that of Forerunner armor and thought he was a Forerunner. Just speculation [[User talk:Crimson Knight|Crimson Knight]] 19:51, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
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| ==One more theory==
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| In yet another attempt to identify the Foreunner terminology for Combat skins, I have decided upon this formula. The key is to determine the difference between a Class 1 and Class 2.
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| Class 1 is standard, non-shielded armor. Anything from the UNSC Marine Battle armor to ODST ballistic armor to Unggoy Combat Harness to even medieval knight armor falls under this category. The key bit is "no shields."
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| Class 2 is shielded armor and includes MJOLNIR V and VI, Elite and Brute armor. Its key definement is that it is powered by only a single source, and thus has no fallback when it depletes, thus forcing it to recharge and leave the wearer briefly vulnerable.
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| Class 3 is armor with '''TWO''' Power sources. It does not leave the user vulnerable until total depletion, as two power sources causes the armor to re-charge instantly until total depletion. Examples include Prophet Hierarch shields, Covenant starship shields, and the Overshield.
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| Any class after that all depends on the number of power sources and thus time before depletion. For example, Class 12 combat skin would be powered by 11 separate power batteries and so on and so forth. The Prophet of Regret's shield may have even been '''HIGHER'' than Class 3, given the incredible amount of firepower it could withstand.
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| A offshoot of it could be Class 2.5 combat skin, where it recharges instantly, but draws from only one power source. This would include Jackal Point Defense Gauntlets and the Bubble Shield.
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| One last point, I would like to point out a possible difference between the terms of "combat skin" and "environment suit." It is very likely that, since the Forerunners were so advanced, that they were able to re-program their own bodies to increase their durability and project energy shields around them, thus leading to the term combat skin. Therfore, combat skin would refer to a skin with a altered DNA sequence to make it more durable, while "environment suit" is a literal suit one wears, which creates sort of "shell", or environment for them.
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| Tell me how this sounds, I'll greatly appreciate it. Thank you.[[User:Tuckerscreator|'''Tuckerscreator''']] 06:04, March 11, 2010 (UTC)
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| :I think this sounds pretty good.--<font color="green">[[User:Rollersox|Death will follow you]]...</font><font color="blue" size="2"><sup>[[User talk:Rollersox|but you can survive]]</sup></font> 18:06, 30 January 2011 (EST)
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| == Forerunner Combat Skin Helmet In Origins II ==
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| Has anybody else noticed the helmet in Origins I on the ground is the same as the one seen in Origins II in the temple (the one with a flood form coming out of it)? I found it very cool that they referenced that. Oh and the temple in origins II is the same concept art for the temples in the halo 2 Level "Regret"(as seen in The Art Of Halo). Was when the flood form emerging from the helmet canon or just symbolic?[[User talk:Justin Kane|Justin Kane]] 04:40, March 15, 2010 (UTC)Justin Kane
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| ==Image==
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| Where is that main image from? Just wondering, it looks awesome [[User talk:SPARTAN-347|SPARTAN-347]] 20:08, 24 January 2011 (EST)
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| :Concept art by Isaac Hannaford. I'm not entirely sure it should be used, since it is only concept art, but hey, it's awesome. I'll go with it! -- [[User:Specops306|<b><font color=indigo>Specops306</font></b>]] [[halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>Qur'a 'Morhek</sup></font></i></u>]] 21:16, 24 January 2011 (EST)
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| It's the geth!!! Just kidding,but the resemblance is striking!--[[User talk:UNSCSILVERSTREAK|UNSCSILVERSTREAK]] 23:36, 30 April 2011 (EDT)
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| == Rifle? ==
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| In the Forerunner picture's right hand, he is holding some sort of rifle, while in the other it seems he has a wrist-mounted weapon or the wrist-mounted weapon could be a plasma pistol-type weapon. So far, there is now article on the unidentified rifle, but only on the pistol thing. Anybody know what this rifle is?--<font color="green">[[User:Rollersox|Death will follow you]]...</font><font color="blue" size="2"><sup>[[User talk:Rollersox|but you can survive]]</sup></font> 18:05, 30 January 2011 (EST)
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| :It's just concept art, so unless it gets explicitly mentioned or depicted elsewhere it might as well not exist, canonically. We use the image because it was created by a Bungie artist during his time when Bungie retained the IP, but I don't think the weapons it is iequipped with are notable enough for articles. -- [[User:Specops306|<b><font color=indigo>Specops306</font></b>]] [[halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>Qur'a 'Morhek</sup></font></i></u>]] 18:30, 30 January 2011 (EST)
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| == Cancelled Halo MMO Combat Skin ==
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| I noticed in several concept art pieces for the cancelled Halo MMO there was various concepts of Forerunner armor/combat skin.
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| Should this be added in since some concept art by Bungie is included as this articles main image? [[User:ADinoSupremacist|ADinoSupremacist]]
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| :Add it in the gallery section. Do note that it is by Ensemble Studios, not Bungie as indicated by the print above the concept art. :) — <span style="font-size:16px; font-family:OrbitronMedium;">[[User:Subtank|<span style="color:#FF4F00;">subtank</span>]]</span> 07:06, 31 March 2012 (EDT)
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| == Halo 4 and Combat Skins ==
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| Hey we need to add the didact's and the promethean's combat skins from Halo 4 and it's terminals to this page. We should also reference the Prehistoric Human Varaint as well. [[User talk:Flavius Aetius|Flavius Aetius]] 17:09, 10 November 2012 (EST)
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| == Halo 4 and Combat Skin ==
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| Should a section be added regarding the capabilities of Combat Skins? We know Human and Forerunner Combat Skin could stop lasers from the Terminals, and the Didact's combat skin could use the force (containment fields or something). Not to mention it was impervious to conventional weapons fire, and it could teleport and survive slipspace jumps. Promethean combat skins could levitate (from the terminals as well). [[User:Flavius Aetius|Flavius Aetius]] ([[User talk:Flavius Aetius|talk]]) 20:35, 3 March 2013 (EST)
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