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| ==Miranda's mother(confirmed)?==
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| removed the item about the Halsey/Daughter Keys link, because it is simply fanfiction with no basis. Jacob Keyes may have been attracted to Halsey in the beginning, but there is absolutely no evidence that Halsey is Miranda's mother. yet. | | removed the item about the Halsey/Daughter Keys link, because it is simply fanfiction with no basis. Jacob Keyes may have been attracted to Halsey in the beginning, but there is absolutely no evidence that Halsey is Miranda's mother. yet. |
| :Agreed. No major speculation. --[[User:Dragonclaws|Dragonclaws]] 02:55, 5 December 2006 (UTC) | | :Agreed. No major speculation. --[[User:Dragonclaws|Dragonclaws]] 02:55, 5 December 2006 (UTC) |
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| So why, then, does the article say she gave birth to Miranda? I don't remember this in Halsey's journal, but whoever did the edit is citing it. I can't be bothered to page through it again on somebody else's speculation. Burden of proof ain't on me. Page number or direct quote to confirm this? We can't just keep saying "found it in the journal" if we're not going to provide something more concrete. [[User talk:CipherCero|CipherCero]] 05:00, October 4, 2010 (UTC)
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| :CipherCero, check the dates on this section. This discussion above was written nearly '''FOUR''' years ago. More information came, namely Halsey's journal, and now it's pretty clear Halsey was indeed meant to be Miranda's mother all along. [[User:Tuckerscreator|<span style="color:#6600cc;">'''''Tuckerscreator'''''</span>]]<sup>([[User talk:Tuckerscreator|<font color="#008000">stalk</font>]])</sup> 05:55, October 4, 2010 (UTC)
| | is it possible dr. halsey mite be in halo:uprising or halo 3 |
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| noticed the DOB reference and loads of the others are screwed up, not going to mess with unfamilliar code, just thought you might want to know
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| As you can see, I've made a major extension in the Reach section. I'd like to suggest that the periods before and after Reach be given a similar expansion. There are many other things that I think could also be added to the page. -- [[User:Forgottenlord|Forgottenlord]] 15:36, 28 July 2007 (UTC) | | As you can see, I've made a major extension in the Reach section. I'd like to suggest that the periods before and after Reach be given a similar expansion. There are many other things that I think could also be added to the page. -- [[User:Forgottenlord|Forgottenlord]] 15:36, 28 July 2007 (UTC) |
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| | I think it would be really cool if someone with elite photoshop skills would come up with a picture of what they think Dr. Halsey looks like based on what we know. -Serious Business |
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| | That would only be speculation/fanfiction, therefore it would have no place here.[[User talk:Papayaking|Papayaking]] 08:02, 21 July 2009 (UTC) |
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| | {{Big Quote|''removed the item about the Halsey/Daughter Keys link, because it is simply fanfiction with no basis. Jacob Keyes may have been attracted to Halsey in the beginning, but there is absolutely no evidence that Halsey is Miranda's mother. yet. |
| | :Agreed. No major speculation. --[[User:Dragonclaws|Dragonclaws]]''}} |
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| | I say she isnt: I don't know about you but im almost sure cartana is identical to Miranda Keyes |
| | I say she is: Dr. Cathrine Keyes? |
| | --[[User:Ptowery|þ†öW讥]] <sup>[[User:Ptowery|^]]</sup> <sup>([[user talk:Ptowery|UNSC Fleetcom]])</sup><sup>([[Special:Contributions/Ptowery|UNSC Mision Log]])</sup> 19:26, 29 September 2007 (UTC) |
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| | The only reason that Cortana and Miranda are 'identical' (which I don't believe is true anyway), is because it's a video game, and they have to use the same template for female characters and the same template for male characters. You can see similarities in every character. By your logic, the entire UNSC is related. |
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| | Oh, and I cleaned it up a little, and took out the Cortana picture: Cortana has Halsey's mind workings, not looks. [[User:Sierra 117|Sierra 117]] 11:57, 9 October 2007 (UTC) |
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| Should we include Halsey's UNSC Civilian consultant number? it is: 409871 , as said by Araqiel (Ackerson's AI) in First Strike, in Chapter Thirteen. | | Should we include Halsey's UNSC Civilian consultant number? it is: 409871 , as said by Araqiel (Ackerson's AI) in First Strike, in Chapter Thirteen. |
| [[User:EngineerCrazy|EngineerCrazy]] 22:31, 7 December 2008 (UTC | | [[User:EngineerCrazy|EngineerCrazy]] 22:31, 7 December 2008 (UTC) |
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| in mine it says 409861 | | in mine it says 409861 |
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| Good call, just remember the source [[Special:Contributions/87.2.200.158|87.2.200.158]] 19:55, April 9, 2010 (UTC)
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| Is it possible that Catherine Elizabeth Halsey is a descendant of Fleet Admiral William Frederick Halsey, Jr., USN, (October 30, 1882 – August 16, 1959)? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Halsey,_Jr. | | Is it possible that Catherine Elizabeth Halsey is a descendant of Fleet Admiral William Frederick Halsey, Jr., USN, (October 30, 1882 – August 16, 1959)? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Halsey,_Jr. |
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| :A possibility? Yes, but probably not what the authors were going for. More likely her name is just a reference to the Admiral.--[[File:Emblem 1.jpg|20px]][[User:Rusty-112|<font color="Blue">'''Rusty'''</font>]][[User:Rusty-112|<font color="Red">'''-'''</font>]]UserWiki:Rusty-112|<font color="Blue">'''112'''</font>]] 13:23, September 1, 2009 (UTC) | | :A possibility? Yes, but probably not what the authors were going for. More likely her name is just a reference to the Admiral.--[[File:Emblem 1.jpg|20px]][[User:Rusty-112|<font color="Blue">'''Rusty'''</font>]][[User:Rusty-112|<font color="Red">'''-'''</font>]][[UserWiki:Rusty-112|<font color="Blue">'''112'''</font>]] 13:23, September 1, 2009 (UTC) |
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| ==Dr Halsey in Halo Legends== | | ==Dr Halsey in Halo Legends== |
| I have just been looking over several Legends videos, and I came across one very brief image of what looks like Halsey overlooking the Spartan augmentations. See for yourself, pause at ''exactly'' 5:41 - | | I have just been looking over several Legends videos, and I came across one very brief image of what looks like Halsey overlooking the Spartan augmentations. See for yourself, pause at ''exactly'' 5:41 - |
| [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3lNcbfMfCGs#movie_player] | | [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3lNcbfMfCGs#movie_player] |
| - [[User:Halo-343|<span style="color: purple; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 128%;">'''Halo-343'''</span>]] [[User talk:Halo-343|<font color="red"><nowiki>(</nowiki>'''Talk'''<nowiki>)</nowiki></font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Halo-343|<font color="orange"><nowiki>(</nowiki>'''Contribs'''<nowiki>)</nowiki></font>]] [[Special:Editcount/Halo-343|<font color="green"><nowiki>(</nowiki>'''Edits'''<nowiki>)</nowiki></font>]] 18:31, November 9, 2009 (UTC) | | - [[File:Black Mesa.jpg|28px]] [[User:Halo-343|<span style="color: purple; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 128%;">'''Halo-343'''</span>]] [[User talk:Halo-343|<font color="red"><nowiki>(</nowiki>'''Talk'''<nowiki>)</nowiki></font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Halo-343|<font color="orange"><nowiki>(</nowiki>'''Contribs'''<nowiki>)</nowiki></font>]] [[Special:Editcount/Halo-343|<font color="green"><nowiki>(</nowiki>'''Edits'''<nowiki>)</nowiki></font>]] 18:31, November 9, 2009 (UTC) |
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| Yeah, I see it. We can't be sure, but I'd guess that's her. Nice job seeing that.--[[File:Emblem 1.jpg|20px]][[User:Rusty-112|<font color="Blue">'''Rusty'''</font>]][[User:Rusty-112|<font color="Red">'''-'''</font>]]UserWiki:Rusty-112|<font color="Blue">'''112'''</font>]] 18:53, November 9, 2009 (UTC) | | Yeah, I see it. We can't be sure, but I'd guess that's her. Nice job seeing that.--[[File:Emblem 1.jpg|20px]][[User:Rusty-112|<font color="Blue">'''Rusty'''</font>]][[User:Rusty-112|<font color="Red">'''-'''</font>]][[UserWiki:Rusty-112|<font color="Blue">'''112'''</font>]] 18:53, November 9, 2009 (UTC) |
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| Good find, though it may not be her. --[[User talk:Sgt.T.N.Biscuits|Sgt.T.N.Biscuits]] 16:26, November 11, 2009 (UTC) | | Good find, though it may not be her. --[[User talk:Sgt.T.N.Biscuits|Sgt.T.N.Biscuits]] 16:26, November 11, 2009 (UTC) |
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| ::Could you plz find another vid? that one's down...--[[User talk:0v3rl0rd|0v3rl0rd]] 20:48, April 11, 2010 (UTC)
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| Well a new image of Dr. Halsey is up on the Wiki and I must say. GODAMN! She looks pretty friggin good for a 50+ year old. | | Well a new image of Dr. Halsey is up on the Wiki and I must say. GODAMN! She looks pretty friggin good for a 50+ year old. |
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| :She might not be 50 at that point yet; we don't know when the Package takes place. Though that's obviously not how she's supposed to look, they even got the hair color wrong. One has to wonder, why would they ignore all descriptions of her and make her a generic anime chick instead. For her first appearance, it's disappointing to say at least.--[[User:Jugus|<font color="MidnightBlue"><b>Jugus</b></font>]] ([[User talk:Jugus|<font color="Gray">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jugus|<font color="Gray">Contribs</font>]]) 14:13, December 15, 2009 (UTC) | | :She might not be 50 at that point yet; we don't know when the Package takes place. Though that's obviously not how she's supposed to look, they even got the hair color wrong. One has to wonder, why would they ignore all descriptions of her and make her a generic anime chick instead. For her first appearance, it's disappointing to say at least.--[[User:Jugus|<font color="MidnightBlue"><b>Jugus</b></font>]] ([[User talk:Jugus|<font color="Gray">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jugus|<font color="Gray">Contribs</font>]]) 14:13, December 15, 2009 (UTC) |
| ::Maybe this was during her wild/rebellious years. [[Special:Contributions/24.87.4.53|24.87.4.53]] 15:40, December 18, 2009 (UTC) | | ::Maybe this was during her wild/rebellious years. [[Special:Contributions/24.87.4.53|24.87.4.53]] 15:40, December 18, 2009 (UTC) |
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| She did go around kidnapping children for ONI, who knows what else she did while under cover. Obviously she was doing something important enough for the Covenant to find her and track her down. So maybe its a disguise. We know people live much longer too, so she could remain youthful for a greater period of time.
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| [[User talk:ProphetofTruth|ProphetofTruth]] 16:03, December 18, 2009 (UTC)
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| She could have dyed her hair blond, a lot of women do that. And also, time in cryo sleep drastically affects one's age. For instance, Preston Cole is 82 Earth years old, but because of time spent in cryo-sleep, he is about 60 years old. Says so in Evolutions. - [[User:Halo-343|<span style="color: purple; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 128%;">'''Halo-343'''</span>]] [[User talk:Halo-343|<font color="red"><nowiki>(</nowiki>'''Talk'''<nowiki>)</nowiki></font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Halo-343|<font color="orange"><nowiki>(</nowiki>'''Contribs'''<nowiki>)</nowiki></font>]] [[Special:Editcount/Halo-343|<font color="green"><nowiki>(</nowiki>'''Edits'''<nowiki>)</nowiki></font>]] 08:45, December 30, 2009 (UTC)
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| I agree with Halo-343. She is probably only sixty ''including'' time spent in cryo-sleep. As for a change in hair color, she could have dyed it. Still, if she appears blonde in other episodes of the anime, I would guess that blonde is her actual hair color, and that black is really her dyed hair color. I don't know how to explain the absence of wrinkles though. Maybe she didn't have them yet. - [[User:Webspidrman]] 17 January 2010 (UTC)
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| :::Please sign your posts. And it would be completely out of Halsey's character to do something like that. - [[User:Halo-343|<span style="color: purple; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 128%;">'''Halo-343'''</span>]] [[User talk:Halo-343|<font color="red"><nowiki>(</nowiki>'''Talk'''<nowiki>)</nowiki></font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Halo-343|<font color="orange"><nowiki>(</nowiki>'''Contribs'''<nowiki>)</nowiki></font>]] [[Special:Editcount/Halo-343|<font color="green"><nowiki>(</nowiki>'''Edits'''<nowiki>)</nowiki></font>]] 13:55, January 5, 2010 (UTC)
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| Am I the only one who wants to put a pistol to my head after witnessing the halsey from "the package"? --[[User:Ptowery|þ†öW讥]] <sup>[[User:Ptowery|^]]</sup> <sup>([[user talk:Ptowery|UNSC Fleetcom]])</sup><sup>([http://halofanon.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Ptowery UNSC History])</sup><sup>([[Special:Contributions/Ptowery|UNSC Mision Log]])</sup> 16:49, April 4, 2010 (UTC)
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| ::Apparently, yeah... she looks pretty awesome, to me :P better than the legends' Cortana, at least! [[Special:Contributions/87.2.200.158|87.2.200.158]] 19:53, April 9, 2010 (UTC)
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| I think her hair's color should be normally dark: in Halo: the fall of reach is often stated about that, but also it is said that she had some hairs white because of age. If you dye hair, they can't be white because of your age: they are the colour you choose. I think it's absurd to thiunk that nylund tought about hair color returning to original after being dyed. Hope i have esxplained well :)--[[User talk:YUBBO|Y92]] 15:40, June 22, 2010 (UTC)
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| == Bungie.net NOW ==
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| The new Vidoc just uploaded to Bungie actually reveals Halsey in game for the first time ever. voiced by Jen Taylor too! anyone want to take the liberty to snatch a screenie? [[Special:Contributions/121.216.131.231|121.216.131.231]] 10:49, August 17, 2010 (UTC)
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| == What Mirrors What ==
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| If Legends came before Reach, that means the latter mirrors the former. That's how it works. I'm not sure about the punishment for edit warring here, so I'm just playing it safe with a topic.[[User:Fairfieldfencer|<font color="#FF2400">Fair</font><font color="#FFA500">field</font><font color="#FF2400">fencer</font>]] [[User talk:Fairfieldfencer|<font color="FF2400">F</font><font color="#FFA500">F</font><font color="#FF2400">F</font>]] 19:54, August 17, 2010 (UTC)
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| :Yes, but some canon places higher authority over others. Halsey in ViDoc is of direct Bungie creation, therefore it is of higher authority.[[User:Tuckerscreator|<span style="color:#6600cc;">'''''Tuckerscreator''''''</span>]]'' 19:58, August 17, 2010 (UTC)''
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| :Yes, but as you can see, it doesn't need to be worded like that. To my understanding, "mirroring" implies there is a connection between the two or that Reach somehow follows Legends - which is not the case. They are two projects developed independently from each other, so neither "mirrors" one another. --[[User:Jugus|<font color="MidnightBlue"><b>Jugus</b></font>]] <small>([[User talk:Jugus|<font color="Gray">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jugus|<font color="Gray">Contribs</font>]])</small> 20:01, August 17, 2010 (UTC)
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| But, the ViDoc is actually non-canon! Because Halsey never even HEARD of the [[SPARTAN-III Program]] until after the main battle of Reach.Thank you taking time to listen to my post! 20:20, August 17, 2010 (UTC)!!!
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| ::While I sincerely doubt that Halsey's monologue about Noble Team is canon, as she had never even heard of the SPARTAN-IIIs at that point, - the same goes for ''Desperate Measures'': Why would they talk to themselves about SPARTANs/their squadmates when they're on besieged planets, and when could the ViDocs possibly take place? - her image is definitive. The point isn't that the image was made by Bungie. The point is that the image is from a ''game''. Regardless of whether her evaluation of Noble Team actually took place, it's an in-game model that perfectly resembles her description from the novels. Games trump all else, especially when it comes to visuals. -[[User talk:Braidenvl|"Government big enough to supply everything you need is big enough to take everything you have." -Thomas Jefferson]] 20:34, August 17, 2010 (UTC)
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| :::When Halsey's first shown on the ViDoc, she can be seen shutting down the video feed of Noble Team's Falcons lifting off - no doubt a modified/extended version of the cinematic seen in the VGA trailer. This would place Halsey's evaluation at the very beginning of the campaign, with the ViDoc's scenes of Noble Team fighting in the battle of Reach obviously not being a canon part and there just for the sake of presentation. What's interesting is that if Six meeting Noble Team is the very first cinematic in the game (which it seems to be), they still don't know about the Covenant on Reach. Yet Halsey seems to be fully aware of their presence. If the evaluation indeed takes place when Noble's mission begins, she must know more than, well, everyone else. That is, if the evaluation is canon to begin with - we'll just have to wait and see. But yeah, regardless of whether this scene appears in the game or not, her image is definitive. Certainly better than anything from Legends - in fact, it's amazingly accurate. Perfect even. --[[User:Jugus|<font color="MidnightBlue"><b>Jugus</b></font>]] <small>([[User talk:Jugus|<font color="Gray">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jugus|<font color="Gray">Contribs</font>]])</small> 21:29, August 17, 2010 (UTC)
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| ::::Err... The image isn't what the post was made about. It was a sentence change saying that since Halo Legends was the first to have Cortana and Halsey voiced by the same person, Halo Reach mirrors Legends, intentionally or not.[[User:Fairfieldfencer|<font color="#FF2400">Fair</font><font color="#FFA500">field</font><font color="#FF2400">fencer</font>]] [[User talk:Fairfieldfencer|<font color="FF2400">F</font><font color="#FFA500">F</font><font color="#FF2400">F</font>]] 21:45, August 17, 2010 (UTC)
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| :::::I gathered from First Strike and Ghosts of Onyx that she had at least a rudimentary idea that there were other Spartans - if Noble Team wasn't a surprise, then KING UNDER THE MOUNTAIN was just confirmation, coordinates, and enough information for her to put the last pieces of the puzzle together herself. She seems fairly well-read on the S-III existence when she meets Kurt.
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| :::::Oh, and not to toot my own horn or anything, but I FLIPPING KNEW IT!!! XD -- [[User:Specops306|<b><font color=indigo>Specops306</font></b>]] [[halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>Qur'a 'Morhek</sup></font></i></u>]] 08:44, August 18, 2010 (UTC)
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| ::::::It's a possibility that she actually thinks they're Class-II Spartan-IIs: they may even be registered as such, especially considering how the company letters have been dropped from their Spartan tags. True, Class-II's existence is still ambiguous, but there's no evidence against it either. --[[User:Jugus|<font color="MidnightBlue"><b>Jugus</b></font>]] <small>([[User talk:Jugus|<font color="Gray">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jugus|<font color="Gray">Contribs</font>]])</small> 08:55, August 18, 2010 (UTC)
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| Perhaps one should reconsider about the validity of the ViDoc. Has one never assessed that the ViDoc is simply a promotional item, another example being H3: ODST's Desperate Measures ViDoc? Perhaps the scene where Halsey assessed the hologram did happen but not with Noble Team files displayed as seen in the ViDoc? The whole narration is similar like the ones used in Desperate Measures; it never happened in the actual game but it happened only in the ViDoc. In Desperate Measures, we see Buck turning to the audiences and saying his lines but it never happened in the actual game. This might as well be true to the case of Halsey's shutting off the hologram and asking a question towards an unseen character... This leads to only one conclusion: Bungie might as well modified the whole scene to make it a legitimate scene. We've seen this before in Desperate Measures and no doubt in my mind Bungie expected these kind of responses. I don't understand why the majority fails to grasp this ViDoc...- <font face="Century Gothic">[[User:Subtank|<font color="gold"><font color="#FF4F00">5</font>əb<font color="#FF4F00">'7</font>aŋk</font>]]<sup>([[User talk:Subtank|<font color="#FF4F00">7alk</font>]])</sup></font> 18:47, August 19, 2010 (UTC)
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| :Possible. It's extremely likely that the scene in the ViDoc won't be in the game (we've seen the first cinematic, and in the ViDoc, Halsey's seen shutting the video feed off just as the Falcons take off in that particular cutscene; doesn't seem to happen in the game) There is, however, a possibility that she'll appear in the game, considering she's talking about an item she wants one member of Noble Team to carry (she talks about "hope", which is clearly implied to be a tangible object, perhaps an AI). If Bungie wanted this to be an introductory video only, I doubt they would've included all that dialogue about "hope" and the ending where Halsey lets the AI (Auntie Dot?) choose the Spartan who'll carry it. But we'll just have to wait and see. --[[User:Jugus|<font color="MidnightBlue"><b>Jugus</b></font>]] <small>([[User talk:Jugus|<font color="Gray">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jugus|<font color="Gray">Contribs</font>]])</small> 18:57, August 19, 2010 (UTC)
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| LISTEN! Catharine Halsey didn't know for a fact about the [[SPARTAN-III Program]] until they were on Onyx! Which means that she couldn't ask Noble Team to do anything because beside for a select few people who knew, the SPARTAN-III Program didn't exist. This is non-cannon just like the new Patrol ViDoc! Unless those military guys were actually one of the SPARTAN-III drill instructors, they wouldn't know.Thank you taking time to listen to my post! 19:33, August 19, 2010 (UTC)!!!!!
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| :But you're not saying anything :/ Halsey had her suspicions on Reach. A file called "S-III"; a list of personal S-II information (which would be important were someone to copy the S-II program) and the transfer of a key Spartan-II Program asset (Mendez, who trained them in military strategy and gave philosophical advice such as that you can't save everyone) to an uncharted area of space would make people suspicious. Especially "S-III". I'm sure the SPARTAN-III article pre-dates Halo: Ghosts of Onyx, here. -- [[User talk:Forerunner|Forerunner]] 19:46, August 19, 2010 (UTC)
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| ::I'm leaning to the "Everyone thinks they're SPARTAN-IIs" theory. And for all we know, Halsey doesn't meet them at all, anyway.-- [[User talk:Forerunner|Forerunner]] 19:56, August 19, 2010 (UTC)
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| :::Also to Vegerot: there is nothing ''at all'' to suggest that ''Patrol'' isn't canon. <s>We don't know how closely Noble Team worked with local Army forces prior to the Fall of Reach.</s> EDIT: [http://www.bungie.net/News/content.aspx?type=topnews&link=BWU_012910 We know Noble Team worked with non-augmented personnel quite extensively]. Besides, regular soldiers have no idea that there's more than one type of SPARTAN. To them, there's no distinction between SPARTAN-IIs, whom everyone recognizes simply with the catchall "SPARTAN" moniker, and Noble Team: they're all supersoldiers with highly advanced powered armor. To the layman, a SPARTAN is a SPARTAN. There's no risk to the secrecy of the S-III program simply because Noble Team's existence is semi-common knowledge. --[[User talk:Braidenvl|"Government big enough to supply everything you need is big enough to take everything you have." -Thomas Jefferson]] 19:58, August 19, 2010 (UTC)
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| ::::Good point, but note that if there's a team of Spartans other than the commonly known ''twos'' running around and interacting with normal military personnel regularly, the brass will know about it sooner or later. And so will people like Halsey. --[[User:Jugus|<font color="MidnightBlue"><b>Jugus</b></font>]] <small>([[User talk:Jugus|<font color="Gray">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jugus|<font color="Gray">Contribs</font>]])</small> 07:13, August 20, 2010 (UTC)
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| ::Halsey was the mother of all S-IIs, hasn't anybody considered that? She would have recognised the difference between an S-II and something else. Sad to say, I have seen the spoilarz on the web, and I've put together the story of the cutscenes and this ViDoc. No, I'm not revealing anything or tempting you to see the spoilers (they've been banned already anyway). But I want to say that this little thread is taking a very strange direction.
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| ::Now's the part where it may become a bit suggestive. I have read Ghosts of Onyx and seen the spoilers. I'm not saying that Halsey is involved in Campaign, but I still do not know whether or how Dr Halsey was aware of the S-III's identities. The spoilers did not have anything to say. Nobody was questioned "Who are you?" or "Who made you?" The S-IIIs just carried out their orders without that topic being brought up. They were also addressed like typical officers.
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| ::Rollback the previous paragraph if it revealed too much. SolidLemonsoup(ahaha) 12:24, September 9, 2010 (UTC)
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| ==Dr halsey and noble team==
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| Colonel Holland says in the first mission noble actual that ONI thinks sending the Spartans are un-resourceful,
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| doesn`t that kinda hint that since ONI knows Dr Halsey might know
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| :[[User talk:Admiralmorris|Admiralmorris]], please sign off next time. You made this edit on 4th September, did you? You also have a tendency of typing "doesn't" like "doesn`t". Use the apostrophe that is two buttons to the right of 'l' on your keyboard.
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| :Also, I don't think many people get what you mean by saying "that hints that since ONI knows Dr Halsey might know". By right, Dr Halsey should have had no idea of the existence of the S-III program. However, I have seen a few spoilers of Halo: Reach... *shhh!!!*
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| :SolidLemonsoup(ahaha) 11:50, September 9, 2010 (UTC)
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| The fact that ONI knows about Noble Team does not nessesarily mean that Halsey knows, the SPARTAN-III program was ''made'' by ONI, and in the books she apparently doesn't know about the whole program until near the ending of the Fall of Reach, dispite being part of ONI. However, also for that reason that ONI knows, Halsey might know about the SPARTAN-IIIs, or at least knows that someone tried to replicate a cheaper version of her SPARTANs, but didn't know the full extent. --[[User talk:Juubi no Ryuu|Juubi no Ryuu]] 02:00, September 12, 2010 (UTC)
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| :Hey guys, I was wondering if I can edit this article with the new information from Halo Reach. It will include spoilers.
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| The new info will be put here in the Battle of Reach section.[[User talk:Xtermin8R645|Xtermin8R645]] 23:22, September 14, 2010 (UTC)
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| :Now that Halsey has an image to her name (as per Reach), did anyone expect her to be on the chubby side? It certainly surprised me. Since Cortana is based on her, I expected a leaner figure, that's Bungie for you, alway keeps you guessing.--[[User talk:Plasmic Physics|Plasmic Physics]] 00:02, September 15, 2010 (UTC)
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| Halsey was chubby? I didn't see that, maybe it was her sweater, maybe her wrinkles, or maybe I was just potentially blinded by the fact of that my head was screaming: "OMIGOSH, IT'S HALSLEYHALSEYHALSEY!!1!11!" [[User:Tuckerscreator|<span style="color:#6600cc;">'''''Tuckerscreator'''''</span>]]<sup>([[User talk:Tuckerscreator|<font color="#008000">stalk</font>]])</sup> 02:11, September 15, 2010 (UTC)
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| :Is the final objective supposed to be imcompletable, or is there any point in trying, like an alternate ending?--[[User talk:Plasmic Physics|Plasmic Physics]] 05:33, September 15, 2010 (UTC)
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| From the looks of it, yes, it's unbeatable. I noticed that at one point the cracks appear in your visor while they're firing at you once appeared '''WHILE''' your shields were still up, and in any case those Zealots appear to do more damage than usual. Or maybe that's just the difficulty. And yes, they can be killed. Regardless, though, I think we might be going a little off topic here...[[User:Tuckerscreator|<span style="color:#6600cc;">'''''Tuckerscreator'''''</span>]]<sup>([[User talk:Tuckerscreator|<font color="#008000">stalk</font>]])</sup> 14:38, September 15, 2010 (UTC)
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| Just because she knows they exist, that doesn't mean she knows who they are or ''what'' they are. Just because she may know about Noble Team in Reach doesn't mean she knows about the whole SPARTAN-III Program - perhaps her motivation for heading to Onyx? -- [[User:Specops306|<b><font color=indigo>Specops306</font></b>]] [[halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>Qur'a 'Morhek</sup></font></i></u>]] 23:15, September 15, 2010 (UTC)
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| :Have you read Halsey's journal?--[[User talk:Plasmic Physics|Plasmic Physics]] 08:04, September 16, 2010 (UTC)
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| ==Ma'am or Mom==
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| Is it possible the some [[Spartan-II]]'s reffered to Dr. Halsey as "Mom" instead of ma'am beacause in Halo: Reach when [[Jorge-052]] talks to her I could swear he says mom instead of ma'am. Which would make sence because they did see her as a mother figure instead of just an officer Chris-the-killer 18:43, September 16, 2010 (UTC)
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| :Jorge is essentially European, so he would call her mum. Not mom. It's moot, anyway, as the game's subtitles reveal he says ma'am, similar to how an Englishman would with emphasis on the "a'am."[[User:Fairfieldfencer|<font color="#FF2400">Fair</font><font color="#FFA500">field</font><font color="#FF2400">fencer</font>]] [[User talk:Fairfieldfencer|<font color="FF2400">F</font><font color="#FFA500">F</font><font color="#FF2400">F</font>]] 19:27, September 16, 2010 (UTC)
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| == Noble-6's Eulogy ==
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| Someone has edited the article claiming that Halsey returns to Reach in 2589 to deliver 6's eulogy, and we have absolutely no evidence to support that. And that's also quite a jump considering there's no confirmation on whether she's made it out of onyx yet. (also considering that Halsey would be near 90 years old at that point I find it unlikely)
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| Yes, Halsey voices the final monologue, but that's no indication that these words were spoken in the same place or time as the game's final images (if we're to assume it was actually spoken outside of the dramatic context). Furthermore, she speaks in very generic terms about the importance of NOBLE's sacrifice having catalyzed the events told in Halo and ultimately mankind's survival and rebuilding, but never speaks in specifics regarding the time frame or location of the epilogue. It's just as likely Bungie meant to use Halsey's voice for dramatic punctuation and not to imply she was physically there -- however there's no evidence to support this either!
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| I feel the last paragraph should be removed all-together, seeing as it contradicts what we DO (and yet don't) know about the nature of Halsey's whereabouts, and that speculating whether a near-90-year-old Halsey returns to Reach on Bungie Day 2589 holds no relevance towards further understanding the Halo Universe.<br>
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| '''[[User talk:Watemon|Watemon]] 00:19, September 22, 2010 (UTC)'''
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| :We can assume that the voice is that belonging to Halsey, according to Haloverse canon, Cortana is rampant by the time Covenant-human war is over. According to Halopedia policy, we have to avoid speculation, thus for lack of a sourceable alternative, Halsey is the only candidate. I do not propose a time or date of the eulogy, only the identity of the speaker. If no argument is made, the removal of the last paragraph will be reverted. [[User talk:Plasmic Physics|Plasmic Physics]] 04:27, 20 November 2010 (EST)
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| == Glasslands ==
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| (Spoilers ahead) Since Halsey gets into the micro-Dyson sphere during the last days of the Human-Covenant war, would a section of her activities inside the sphere be placed under Activities during the Human-Covenant War or in a new Post-War section? Due to the temporal differential(s) between the interior of the sphere and realspace, Halsey assumes the war is still raging (and Humanity is losing) up until she makes contact with Adm. Parangosky and finds the war has ended. Of course, her subsequent arrest and detention fall under Post-War activities, but that's not the issue here. [[User talk:AarrowOM|AarrowOM]] 13:58, 26 October 2011 (EDT)
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| I had the same question with Tom, I simply added a new section called "Inside the Shield World", I think it could be appropriate here as well. [[User:Spartansniper450/IRC Quotes|<span style="color:#000000">''Col.''</span>]] [[User:Spartansniper450|<span style="color:#00416A">Snipes</span>]][[User talk:Spartansniper450|<span style="color:gold">4</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Spartansniper450|<span style="color:silver">50</span>]] 14:07, 26 October 2011 (EDT)
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| There seems to be a lack of Glasslands facts in most articles some one ought to fix this I believe it would greatly improve many articles--[[User talk:Thehalocodplayer|Thehalocodplayer]] 22:37, 7 March 2012 (EST)
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| :Most of our articles are up-to-date on ''Glasslands'' info, except for ''[[Halo: Glasslands]]'' not having a plot summary.--{{User:Spartacus/Sig}}
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| ==Once More To Pick Picture==
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| [[File:HalseyHalseyHalsey.png|left|thumb|300px Well, ''Halo 4'''s prologue has given us some fantastic high-res shots of Halsey, and I've compiled them all into this collage. Which do you guys suggest should be her new profile image? [[User:Tuckerscreator|<span style="color:#6600cc;">'''''Tuckerscreator'''''</span>]]<sup>([[User talk:Tuckerscreator|<font color="#008000">stalk</font>]])</sup> 11:49, 7 November 2012 (EST)
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| :<s>4th on the right top row</s>. Sike, I prefer the second on the top row.--'''''[[User:Killamint|<span style="color:Black; font-family: Arial;">Killamint</span>]]''''' <small>['''''[[User talk:Killamint|<font color="Red">Comm</font>]]'''''|'''''[[Special:Contributions/Killamint|<font color="Black">Files</font>]]''''']</small> 12:46, 7 November 2012 (EST)
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| Top center picture, I think that picture shows both her toughness and her physical resemblance to Cortana quite well. [[User talk:Manwiththegun|Manwiththegun]] 12:57, 7 November 2012 (EST)
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| :Manwithagun, by "center" do you mean also the second on the top, or the third? Both seem to work. Anyone else's opinions? [[User:Tuckerscreator|<span style="color:#6600cc;">'''''Tuckerscreator'''''</span>]]<sup>([[User talk:Tuckerscreator|<font color="#008000">stalk</font>]])</sup> 14:14, 7 November 2012 (EST)
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| Top and second to the right, the middle of the live action stills, not counting the "derp I'm Halsey" image. :p [[User talk:Manwiththegun|Manwiththegun]] 18:25, 7 November 2012 (EST)
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| Already added it. Hope it's great! [[User:Tuckerscreator|<span style="color:#6600cc;">'''''Tuckerscreator'''''</span>]]<sup>([[User talk:Tuckerscreator|<font color="#008000">stalk</font>]])</sup> 18:46, 7 November 2012 (EST)
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| Mission accomplished. [[User talk:Manwiththegun|Manwiththegun]] 18:55, 7 November 2012 (EST)
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| == "Next step of evolution" ==
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| Should it be noted that this line contradicts the whole character development thing that had been going on since First Strike with her changing her mind of the Spartan program as a nessacry sacrffice to something unjustifiable? [[Special:Contributions/98.24.14.97|98.24.14.97]] 22:52, 24 November 2012 (EST)
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| That was because the SPARTAN's augmentations were incomplete, and the mortality rate was high. If Halsey had had another decade or so to improve the process and decrease the mortality rate, it would have been a lot more ethical. Also, Halsey changed her mind in First Strike mainly about KIDNAPPING almost one-hundred children. The SPARTAN-IV mortality rate is (presumably) low, and they are consenting adults. '''[[User:Vegerot|<font color="blue">('''or so it says in the sacred caves''')</font> Vegerot!]]''''' 14:28, 5 December 2012 (EST)!
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| == Arm cutted, logical ? ==
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| Palmer's bullet hitted her shoulder, but the Covenants amputated the whole arm ? Why ? I know Sangheilis rejects all form of surgery, but it seems even more dangerous than let the flesh heal itself around the bullet. [[User:Lunaramethyst|''<span style="color:#483D8B">ΩPer Mare,</span>'']][[User talk:Lunaramethyst|'''<span style="color:#6B8E23"> ΔPer Terras</span>''',]][[Special:Contributions/|<span style="color:#0000CD"> ΨPer Constellatum</span>]] 14:17, 3 June 2013 (EDT)
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| :Okay, first off, you might want to check your grammar. Secondly, flesh can't heal around an object that is not of the body. It can easily cause an infection that can very easily become lethal. I'm sure you probably already know that. Also, another point to consider, the Sangheili know very little about human physiology, so they didn't want to risk losing her and so they decided to remove her arm in order to save her life. A regular human surgeon would know that the arm can heal itself after the bullet has been safely removed and properly bandaged. A Sangheili wouldn't know that, as they are not surgeons, and they never were. Very few Sangheili doctors exist, or at least I suspect. --'''''[[User:Xamikaze330|<span style="color:Black; font-family: Halo;">Xamikaze330</span>]]''''' <small>['''''[[User talk:Xamikaze330|<font color="Blue">Transmit</font>]]'''''|'''''[[Special:Contributions/Xamikaze330|<font color="Green">Files</font>]]''''']</small> 14:30, 3 June 2013 (EDT)Xamikaze330
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| ::QFT... Getting shot in the shoulder by a simple .50 caliber round would be bad enough. Add, to that, the fact that M225 SAP-HE rounds also have a high-explosive component & the likely result is that her arm would have been blown clean off from the initial hit. The only reason that didn't happen in the cutscene is that the ESRB would have given Spartan Ops an A-O rating for excessive blood & gore. Rest assured however, that arm was a goner either way. - [[User:DJenser|DJenser]] ([[User talk:DJenser|talk]]) 16:13, 3 June 2013 (EDT)
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| :Look at the way her sleeve is tied. Clearly what happened was that it was tied into a tourniquet to stem the bleeding, and that loss of blood flow resulted in killing her arm. Therefore it was amputated. Simple as that. [[User:Tuckerscreator|<span style="color:#6600cc;">'''''Tuckerscreator'''''</span>]]<sup>([[User talk:Tuckerscreator|<font color="#008000">stalk</font>]])</sup> 16:24, 3 June 2013 (EDT)
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| ::Or what Tuckerscreator said. I hadn't thought of that before. --'''''[[User:Xamikaze330|<span style="color:Black; font-family: Halo;">Xamikaze330</span>]]''''' <small>['''''[[User talk:Xamikaze330|<font color="Blue">Transmit</font>]]'''''|'''''[[Special:Contributions/Xamikaze330|<font color="Green">Files</font>]]''''']</small> 16:39, 3 June 2013 (EDT)Xamikaze330
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| :Sorry for the bad grammar, I'm not english-native and doing my best to be "readable". Thanks Tuckerscreator, seems the most logical reason (and Xamikaze, I actually didn't know wounds can't heal around objects (Ace Attorney games tricked me), and I think Sangheilis does have minimum notions in disinfection, they're quoting the use of medicinal herbs in Glasslands). [[User:Lunaramethyst|''<span style="color:#483D8B">ΩPer Mare,</span>'']][[User talk:Lunaramethyst|'''<span style="color:#6B8E23"> ΔPer Terras</span>''',]][[Special:Contributions/|<span style="color:#0000CD"> ΨPer Constellatum</span>]] 15:45, 4 June 2013 (EDT)
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| :Do you remember what page it was on? Or at least the time period it's in? [[User:Tuckerscreator|<span style="color:#6600cc;">'''''Tuckerscreator'''''</span>]]<sup>([[User talk:Tuckerscreator|<font color="#008000">stalk</font>]])</sup> 16:02, 27 September 2013 (EDT)
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| It's located behind the page dated September 5, 2547. [[User:Forgotten Helljumper|<span style="color:red">Forgotten Helljumper</span>]] 18:27, 27 September 2013 (EDT)
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| == Wait a minute ==
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| Something occurred to me just now. If Halsey and Jacob Keyes reunited in ''November'' 2524, and Miranda was born in ''February'' 2525...well, that doesn't add up, does it? That's only four months. [[User:Sona 'Demal|Sona 'Demal]] 04:28, 8 March 2018 (EST)
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| The note on her page mentions that she's depicted as blonde in Halo: Combat Evolved Anniversary, but to me that just looks like the light of the room reflecting off her hair. Thoughts?[[User:The Ragin Pagan|The Ragin Pagan]] ([[User talk:The Ragin Pagan|talk]]) 22:50, 24 August 2018 (EDT)
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