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==Untitled==
That's a bigass MAC cannon.---Blemo 02:46, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
That's a bigass MAC cannon.---Blemo 02:46, 5 April 2007 (UTC)


== Cairo Station Location Pages ==
== Cairo Station Location Pages ==


Okay, just for the record, every single page about the Cairo Station is technically complete. Anyone who has the time and/or resources is welcome to improve each page, but they all contain pretty much the same sections, so everything is really similar and it actually looks like we know what we're doing now. Now for THIS page... '''[[halowikia:User:Guesty-Persony-Thingy|<font color="#000000">G</font><font color="#770000"><sup>ü</sup></font><font color="#cc0000">é</font><font color="#ff0000"><sub>ß</sub></font><font color="#ff3333">Ł</font><font color="#ff6666"><sup>¥</sup></font>]]-[[halowikia:User talk:Guesty-Persony-Thingy|<font color="#9999ff">∏</font><font color="#6666ff"><sub>é</sub></font><font color="#3333ff">Ґ</font><font color="#0000ff"><sup>∫</sup></font><font color="#0000cc">ø</font><font color="#000066"><sub>ñ</sub></font><font color="#000000">¥</font>]]-[[Special:Contributions/Guesty-Persony-Thingy|<font color="#000000"><sup>†</sup></font><font color="#007700">ħ</font><font color="#00cc00"><sub>î</sub></font><font color="#00ff00">И</font><font color="#44ff44"><sup>g</sup></font><font color="#99ff99">¥</font>]]''' 06:13, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
Okay, just for the record, every single page about the Cairo Station is technically complete. Anyone who has the time and/or resources is welcome to improve each page, but they all contain pretty much the same sections, so everything is really similar and it actually looks like we know what we're doing now. Now for THIS page... '''[[w:c:halo:User:Guesty-Persony-Thingy|<font color="#000000">G</font><font color="#770000"><sup>ü</sup></font><font color="#cc0000">é</font><font color="#ff0000"><sub>ß</sub></font><font color="#ff3333">Ł</font><font color="#ff6666"><sup>¥</sup></font>]]-[[w:c:halo:User talk:Guesty-Persony-Thingy|<font color="#9999ff">∏</font><font color="#6666ff"><sub>é</sub></font><font color="#3333ff">Ґ</font><font color="#0000ff"><sup>∫</sup></font><font color="#0000cc">ø</font><font color="#000066"><sub>ñ</sub></font><font color="#000000">¥</font>]]-[[Special:Contributions/Guesty-Persony-Thingy|<font color="#000000"><sup>†</sup></font><font color="#007700">ħ</font><font color="#00cc00"><sub>î</sub></font><font color="#00ff00">И</font><font color="#44ff44"><sup>g</sup></font><font color="#99ff99">¥</font>]]''' 06:13, 18 May 2007 (UTC)


== I removed this... ==
== I removed this... ==


...from this page, because it clutters it up due to lack of textual content. If it looks fine on 1024x768 or whatever most people are using these days, feel free to put it back:
...from this page, because it clutters it up due to lack of textual content. If it looks fine on 1024x768 or whatever most people are using these days, feel free to put it back:
<pre>File:Johnson on Cairo.jpg|thumb|left|300px|Navy personnel on Cairo Station attacking invading [[Covenant]] Forces]]</pre>
<pre>[[Image:Johnson on Cairo.jpg|thumb|left|300px|Navy personnel on Cairo Station attacking invading [[Covenant]] Forces]]</pre>
'''[[halowikia:User:Guesty-Persony-Thingy|<font color="#000000">G</font><font color="#770000"><sup>ü</sup></font><font color="#cc0000">é</font><font color="#ff0000"><sub>ß</sub></font><font color="#ff3333">Ł</font><font color="#ff6666"><sup>¥</sup></font>]]-[[halowikia:User talk:Guesty-Persony-Thingy|<font color="#9999ff">∏</font><font color="#6666ff"><sub>é</sub></font><font color="#3333ff">Ґ</font><font color="#0000ff"><sup>∫</sup></font><font color="#0000cc">ø</font><font color="#000066"><sub>ñ</sub></font><font color="#000000">¥</font>]]-[[Special:Contributions/Guesty-Persony-Thingy|<font color="#000000"><sup>†</sup></font><font color="#007700">ħ</font><font color="#00cc00"><sub>î</sub></font><font color="#00ff00">И</font><font color="#44ff44"><sup>g</sup></font><font color="#99ff99">¥</font>]]''' 06:20, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
'''[[w:c:halo:User:Guesty-Persony-Thingy|<font color="#000000">G</font><font color="#770000"><sup>ü</sup></font><font color="#cc0000">é</font><font color="#ff0000"><sub>ß</sub></font><font color="#ff3333">Ł</font><font color="#ff6666"><sup>¥</sup></font>]]-[[w:c:halo:User talk:Guesty-Persony-Thingy|<font color="#9999ff">∏</font><font color="#6666ff"><sub>é</sub></font><font color="#3333ff">Ґ</font><font color="#0000ff"><sup>∫</sup></font><font color="#0000cc">ø</font><font color="#000066"><sub>ñ</sub></font><font color="#000000">¥</font>]]-[[Special:Contributions/Guesty-Persony-Thingy|<font color="#000000"><sup>†</sup></font><font color="#007700">ħ</font><font color="#00cc00"><sub>î</sub></font><font color="#00ff00">И</font><font color="#44ff44"><sup>g</sup></font><font color="#99ff99">¥</font>]]''' 06:20, 18 May 2007 (UTC)


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:I am unsure how one can make the Internals section more Cairo-specific.  There's simply not enough content to that effect to merit clogging up the article with useless repetition.  I mean, we didn't do this sort of thing for the Pillar of Autumn article.  Even the article on the Halos leaves the specific locations to the links.  Although I would be interested if the admin who requested the change dropped in and made his reasons known.  [[User:Meco|Meco]] 16:40, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
:I am unsure how one can make the Internals section more Cairo-specific.  There's simply not enough content to that effect to merit clogging up the article with useless repetition.  I mean, we didn't do this sort of thing for the Pillar of Autumn article.  Even the article on the Halos leaves the specific locations to the links.  Although I would be interested if the admin who requested the change dropped in and made his reasons known.  [[User:Meco|Meco]] 16:40, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
==halo 3==
==halo 3==
is the station intact in halo 3?[[User:Chief frank 001|<font color="SteelBlue">C</font>]][[User talk:Chief frank 001|<font color="#A9A9A9">F</font>]]<sup>[[Special:Contributions/Chief frank 001|<font color=Teal>0</font>]]UoH/A Company|<font color=Teal>0</font>]][[Special:Editcount/Chief frank 001|<font color=Teal>1</font>]]</sup> 19:34, 4 February 2008 (UTC)
is the station intact in halo 3?[[User:Chief frank 001|<font color="SteelBlue">C</font>]][[User talk:Chief frank 001|<font color="#A9A9A9">F</font>]]<sup>[[Special:Contributions/Chief frank 001|<font color=Teal>0</font>]][[Halopedia:UNSC of Halopedia/A Company|<font color=Teal>0</font>]][[Special:Editcount/Chief frank 001|<font color=Teal>1</font>]]</sup> 19:34, 4 February 2008 (UTC)


Yes the station was left technically intact throught the game. Its power generator on Earth however was not.{{Unsigned|98.28.17.166}}
Yes the station was left technically intact throught the game. Its power generator on Earth however was not.{{Unsigned|98.28.17.166}}
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==MAC station orbits==
==MAC station orbits==
The trivia seems to suggest that the Cairo is not actually above Egypt's capital. Why should it be?? So the MAC stations are named after prominent cities on Earth. Doesn't mean they have to be right over their namesake. If it wasn't commonly known, "geosynchronous" just means the station stays ina  fixed position in orbit over a particular area on the surface of the Earth. It by no means implies Cairo Station has to be above Cairo, Egypt. Seems like too much of an assumption as well as a misunderstanding of the term "geosynchronous". -[[User:ScaleMaster117|ScaleMaster117]] ([[User talk:ScaleMaster117|talk]]) 20:54, 30 August 2013 (EDT)
The trivia seems to suggest that the Cairo is not actually above Egypt's capital. Why should it be?? So the MAC stations are named after prominent cities on Earth. Doesn't mean they have to be right over their namesake. If it wasn't commonly known, "geosynchronous" just means the station stays ina  fixed position in orbit over a particular area on the surface of the Earth. It by no means implies Cairo Station has to be above Cairo, Egypt. Seems like too much of an assumption as well as a misunderstanding of the term "geosynchronous". -[[User:ScaleMaster117|ScaleMaster117]] ([[User talk:ScaleMaster117|talk]]) 20:54, 30 August 2013 (EDT)
Another point on this, being in geosyncronous orbit precludes being over any of the locations that these stations are named for, as geosyncronous orbit occurs as a result of matching the Earth's angular rotation speed with the body's orbital angular speed. This is only possible when both are in the same direction. Based on the orientation shown, it appears to be implied that the battleclusters are collectively in a geosyncronous orbit, as they seem to be in a somewhat north-south orientation.
On a somewhat related note, geosyncronous orbit in their apparent position should leave the New Mombassa space elevator's orbital station visible from the MAC platforms.


==Command Bridge==
==Command Bridge==
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:The very first picture in the gallery section uses ODA. I don't know where it came from but I believe it is an official Bungie picture, though someone with better info about it could enlighten us about. [[User:SPARTAN-177|SPARTAN-177]] ([[User talk:SPARTAN-177|talk]]) 18:31, 30 April 2015 (EDT)
:The very first picture in the gallery section uses ODA. I don't know where it came from but I believe it is an official Bungie picture, though someone with better info about it could enlighten us about. [[User:SPARTAN-177|SPARTAN-177]] ([[User talk:SPARTAN-177|talk]]) 18:31, 30 April 2015 (EDT)


::The image originally came from [http://halo.bungie.org/misc/sloftus_stationsignage/ an article by Stephen Loftus], who has been extremely helpful with anything canon, though the article was written long before he was officially involved. I'm not sure where he got the term - it's possible it can be found in Halo 2, though I never saw it. You would have to ask him about that. I would expect OWP, as the most recent and canonically confirmed option, to be the official designation. -- [[User:Morhek|<b><font color=indigo>Qura 'Morhek</font></b>]] [[halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>The Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>of Morheka</sup></font></i></u>]] 20:47, 30 April 2015 (EDT)
::The image originally came from [http://halo.bungie.org/misc/sloftus_stationsignage/ an article by Stephen Loftus], who has been extremely helpful with anything canon, though the article was written long before he was officially involved. I'm not sure where he got the term - it's possible it can be found in Halo 2, though I never saw it. You would have to ask him about that. I would expect OWP, as the most recent and canonically confirmed option, to be the official designation. -- [[User:Morhek|<b><font color=indigo>Qura 'Morhek</font></b>]] [[w:c:halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>The Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>of Morheka</sup></font></i></u>]] 20:47, 30 April 2015 (EDT)


:::Well, I took a look at Loftus's article and it seems he got the ODA from signage that appear on Cairo that says UNSCDF-ODA142 Cairo. Now, playing my copy of 2, I can confirm that the signs do say it in the original version. However, I don't own TMCC or an XB1 so I can't say if they changed the signs in Anniversary to what the Visual Guide says. EDIT: Looking at the snapshot of the read out of Harper's fleet, it has Cairo marked as OWP-142. [[User:SPARTAN-177|SPARTAN-177]] ([[User talk:SPARTAN-177|talk]]) 21:43, 30 April 2015 (EDT)
:::Well, I took a look at Loftus's article and it seems he got the ODA from signage that appear on Cairo that says UNSCDF-ODA142 Cairo. Now, playing my copy of 2, I can confirm that the signs do say it in the original version. However, I don't own TMCC or an XB1 so I can't say if they changed the signs in Anniversary to what the Visual Guide says. EDIT: Looking at the snapshot of the read out of Harper's fleet, it has Cairo marked as OWP-142. [[User:SPARTAN-177|SPARTAN-177]] ([[User talk:SPARTAN-177|talk]]) 21:43, 30 April 2015 (EDT)


::::A bit embarrassed that I provided the link, but completely missed that. -- [[User:Morhek|<b><font color=indigo>Qura 'Morhek</font></b>]] [[halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>The Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>of Morheka</sup></font></i></u>]] 04:37, 1 May 2015 (EDT)
::::A bit embarrassed that I provided the link, but completely missed that. -- [[User:Morhek|<b><font color=indigo>Qura 'Morhek</font></b>]] [[w:c:halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>The Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>of Morheka</sup></font></i></u>]] 04:37, 1 May 2015 (EDT)
 
:::::I can shed some light on some of this. The general signage on the inside of Cairo does say UNSCDF-ODA142 CAIRO, such as signage like the COMMONS or TRAM area signs, however, the registry used in the Visual Guide was chosen as it better matched the tactical readout in the cutscene where it shows the MAC stations with the 3 cluster callouts: CAIRO OWP142, MALTA OWP143, and ATHENS OWP144 along with a side and top view of the station and the words HUMAN FLEET and ORBITAL WEAPON PLATFORM ARRAY. This is from the original Halo 2 game. The tactical screen in Halo 2 Anniversary has a callout pointing to Cairo alone in the array and is labeled CAIRO_OWP-142. SO I'd treat the official station registry as OWP-142. Hope this helps resolve the question. -[[User:ScaleMaster117|ScaleMaster117]] ([[User talk:ScaleMaster117|talk]]) 17:10, 1 May 2015 (EDT)

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