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==Second Battle of Installation 00==
Why does it say second Battle of Installation 00 now?I don't recall there EVER being another one.[[User:Sith Venator|Sith Venator]] 02:46, 17 November 2008 (UTC)
Why does it say second Battle of Installation 00 now?I don't recall there EVER being another one.[[User:Sith Venator|Sith Venator]] 02:46, 17 November 2008 (UTC)


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the battle infobox is misleading. the separatists and forerunners are not part of the unsc. it appears to be an issue with the template itself {{User:Asdf1239/sig}} 02:04, 2 December 2010 (EST)
the battle infobox is misleading. the separatists and forerunners are not part of the unsc. it appears to be an issue with the template itself {{User:Asdf1239/sig}} 02:04, 2 December 2010 (EST)


:fixed--[[User:Ender the Xenocide|<font color="Green">Ender the Xenocide]]</font> 02:15, 2 December 2010 (EST)
:fixed--[[File:1221751884 I-animated-this-for-you.gif|20px]][[User:Ender the Xenocide|<font color="Green">Ender the Xenocide]]</font>[[File:1221751884 I-animated-this-for-you.gif|20px]] 02:15, 2 December 2010 (EST)
::"covenant separatists" still appears as a division of "UNSC" {{User:Asdf1239/sig}} 05:10, 2 December 2010 (EST)
::"covenant separatists" still appears as a division of "UNSC" {{User:Asdf1239/sig}} 05:10, 2 December 2010 (EST)


==000 Tragic Solitude==
==000 Tragic Solitude==
As the monitor of 00 wouldn't Solitude be in control of the Sentinels on the Ark that were encountered on [[The Ark (level)]]? If so shouldn't it be included in the infobox? [[User:Spartansniper450/IRC Quotes|<span style="color:#000000">''Col.''</span>]] [[User:Spartansniper450|<span style="color:#00416A">Snipes</span>]][[User talk:Spartansniper450|<span style="color:gold">4</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Spartansniper450|<span style="color:silver">50</span>]] 12:16, 21 July 2015 (EDT)
As the monitor of 00 wouldn't Solitude be in control of the Sentinels on the Ark that were encountered on [[The Ark (level)]]? If so shouldn't it be included in the infobox? [[File:Colonel Grade One.png|20px]][[User:Spartansniper450/IRC Quotes|<span style="color:#000000">''Col.''</span>]] [[User:Spartansniper450|<span style="color:#00416A">Snipes</span>]][[User talk:Spartansniper450|<span style="color:gold">4</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Spartansniper450|<span style="color:silver">50</span>]][[File:Colonel Grade One.png|20px]] 12:16, 21 July 2015 (EDT)
:Yeah I'll add him. (unrelated side note my post at the top of the page from 2008 really comes off as rude)[[User:Sith Venator|<span style="color:green">Sith Venator</span>]] [[File:Mega Blastoise.gif|20px]] ([[User talk:Sith Venator|<span style="color:blue">Dank Memes</span>]]) 14:15, 21 July 2015 (EDT)
:Yeah I'll add him. (unrelated side note my post at the top of the page from 2008 really comes off as rude)[[User:Sith Venator|<span style="color:green">Sith Venator</span>]] [[File:Mega Blastoise.gif|20px]] ([[User talk:Sith Venator|<span style="color:blue">Dank Memes</span>]]) 14:15, 21 July 2015 (EDT)


==Operation: BLIND FAITH==
== Honour Code - Elite Tactics ==
Source for operation: BLIND FAITH ?
[[Special:Contributions/78.221.172.106|78.221.172.106]] 20:47, 30 August 2015 (EDT)
:Page 57 of the ''Halo Encyclopedia'', as shown in the article [http://www.halopedia.org/Battle_of_Installation_00#cite_note-8 here].--{{User:Spartacus/Sig}} 20:50, 30 August 2015 (EDT)


== Raid on Installation 04B? ==


Should the Raid on Installation 04B be classed as part of the [[Battle of Installation 00]] or not? I ask this because the raid on 04B did not occur on the Ark and it took place after the Covenant and Truth were defeated (and High Charity destroyed). So should it be included in the 'Aftermath' portion of the article instead, along with its influence in the info box removed? thoughts?--[[User:Paulhalo121|Paulhalo121]] ([[User talk:Paulhalo121|talk]]) 07:23, 22 April 2016 (EDT)
How come the Elites are only honour bound against humans but not against Brutes.
:I believe it should count as part of the battle. John, Thel and Johnson were still in combat with the Flood, just as the UNSC-Sangheili forces on the Ark's surface were, and Installation 04B's destruction was instrumental in wiping out the remaining Flood on the Ark. Also, although it was a different structure, the ring was in basically the same location as Installation 00.  -- [[User:Topal the Pilot|'''Topal the Pilot''']] [[File:Blueteam.png|20px]] <small>([[User talk:Topal the Pilot|<span style="color:green">'''Talk'''</span>]]|[[Special:Contributions/Topal the Pilot|<span style="color:green">'''Contribs'''</span>]])</small> 08:49, 22 April 2016 (EDT)


==Needs Condensing==
Elites honour code is how they lost Battle of Alpha Base and lost too many ships at Fall of Reach, yet they don't go for glorious boarding action against Brutes? No explanation is made as to how the Elites suddenly became tactical geniuses over-night? Could someone please clarify that please? --90.197.5.100 17:33, 22 July 2015 (EDT)
This article is in some SERIOUS need of condensing. The edit made in July 2018  added so much unnecessary Detail that the actual main points of the battle are lost due to every single unit ever faced in the campaign is named. If someone could condense this to keep it on point and accurate that would be great. It’s nearly unreadable in this state [[User:Camelboiis|Camelboiis]] ([[User talk:Camelboiis|talk]]) 12:08, May 1, 2021 (EDT)
 
:I gave it a go. There's probably more that could be done, but it's a start. <span style="font-family: Trebuchet MS;">'''[[User:JackVibe|<span style="color:#000;">Jack</span>]][[User talk:JackVibe|<span style="color:#888;">Vibe</span>]]'''</span> 10:58, October 19, 2021 (EDT)
    Several Sangheili commanders demonstrated considerable skill in tactics throughout the war, most notably Thel 'Vadam(ee). Tactical missteps in isolated battles do not an incompetent race make. As for why not go for "glorious boarding action", the Halopedia content pages aren't the place for that kind of speculation, but given the Sangheili's goal was to eliminate Truth's fleet, not capture it, engaging in ship-to-ship combat would seem the better choice, particularly given the fact that the troops that would have been engaged in the boarding parties were needed on the surface of the Installation.--Emblem 1.jpg Rusty-112 Admin comm 17:45, 22 July 2015 (EDT)
Definitely an improvement... Nice work  --[[User:Camelboiis|Camelboiis]] ([[User talk:Camelboiis|talk]]) 02:16, November 1, 2021 (EDT)
 
        They also consider humans to be much more honourable than the Jiralhanae, so the "degree" of honour they give to opponents probably depends on how honourable they deem their opponent. - NightHammer (talk) 18:00, 22 July 2015 (EDT)  
 
            Also keep in mind: the Covenant's biggest botch-jobs, ie; their disastrous handling of the humans on Alpha Halo, the invasion of Earth, etc, took place under the authority of Prophets. Thel leaned towards simply blowing the Autumn out of the sky, but it was the Minor Prophet who ordered the boardings. Likewise, the boarding ops at Earth took place to allow Regret to barely slip past, and the Covenant deployment on Delta Halo that destroyed Regret's temple were partially ordered by Truth to kill him. When unhindered by Prophet interference, the Elites prove they're pretty vicious and intelligent - ie; Reach, where I can't really think of a stupid deployment there, and conducted smart, complex operations to circumvent human defences. -- Qura 'Morhek The Autocrat of Morheka 06:03, 23 July 2015 (EDT)  
 
The Elites at Reach, under Thel' Vadam no less thought it was a good idea to send ship after ship into the UNSC's orbital defenses where if he was intelligent he would have made them use ranged weaponry and not treat his fleet like a zombie horde. So the switch from that to "yeah the Elites can beat a brute fleet 3-1" is a jarring phenomenon that needs context. Also the Covenant's failed attempts to repel the UNSC during the Truth and Reconcilliation raids, commander-in-chief? Thel' Vadam (admittedly under Prophet's orders but that's still no excuse for screwing up a basic ground operation and the Chief's presence is no excuse). The Elites have repeatedly been outwitted by humans in space thanks to nothing more than ablative tactics in many cases, especially when up against Admiral Cole --[[Special:Contributions/90.198.32.100|90.198.32.100]] 14:00, 26 July 2015 (EDT)

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