Editing Talk:BR85HB battle rifle

Couldn't this be little more than a typo on Jessica's part? Seems unlikely that they'd add thirty numbers to the designation just because the appearance changed. The fact that every render features "BR55HB SR" should be confirmation enough that this is an upgraded model of the ''Halo 3'' HBSR. {{User:Grizzlei/Sig}}

:This is WAY to different visually to be a retcon like that, that'd be quite silly. It's definitly not a member of the 55 family, let alone the same as a 55 variant. [[User talk:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 05:16, 16 March 2012 (EDT)

:::Typo.--{{User:Spartacus/Sig}} 15:24 16 March 2012 (EST)

::::I am more inclined to believe that the ''55'' tag is a typo. It is spoken of as an entirely new weapon, and it is far easier to mistype a 55 than an ''85''. The 55 tag  is more familiar, at any rate, and may have been placed as a placeholder (as has happened before) by someone unaware of the weapon's designation. Really, all we should do is wait. - [[User talk:DefeatingLine|DefeatingLine]] 18:06, 16 March 2012 (EDT)

:::::Also, most of the M6 pistols have the wrong submodel letter printed on them, the M7 SMG says "5mmx23" instead of "5x23mm", and the M392 DMR has an info plate that is for the MA37. In Halo games, a weapon's textures are the last thing I trust. [[User talk:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 20:50, 16 March 2012 (EDT)

::::::Well, the imprints on the weapons are of the unknown; it could have a hidden detail (rocket launcher being the M41 instead of M19 as revealed in recent literature after almost a decade of being considered as a texture error) or it could be an error (as others pointed out consistently). Then again, this is not the final product and is subjected to change.— <span style="font-size:16px; font-family:OrbitronMedium;">[[User:Subtank|<span style="color:#FF4F00;">subtank</span>]]</span> 22:15, 16 March 2012 (EDT)

::::::::Sorry for going of topic, but what's that about with the M41? [[User talk:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 08:00, 17 March 2012 (EDT)

==Merge with BR55HBSR==

===Oppose===

#{{Oppose}} — Typo argument might be wrong. If it is indeed a typo, and assuming someone has informed bsangel of it, the article that revealed the designation would be fixed. We've seen [http://www.halopedian.com/index.php?title=Type-25_Troop_Carrier&action=historysubmit&diff=937097&oldid=935897 one particular instance of this] before during the development of ''Reach''. As it is, it is either we're wrong to assume it is a BR55 or bsangel (or 343i in general) is at fault because of a typo. The benefit of the doubt would thus be placed on bsangel. — <span style="font-size:16px; font-family:OrbitronMedium;">[[User:Subtank|<span style="color:#FF4F00;">subtank</span>]]</span> 06:31, 21 April 2012 (EDT)

#{{Oppose}} As per above. Until further information is available suggesting that this is in fact a modified upgraded variant of the BR55HB SR (for which it sort of is, albeit with a alternate name), I say we leave it as is. --[[User talk:Xamikaze330|Xamikaze330]] 13:32, 21 April 2012 (EDT)Xamikaze330

#{{Oppose}} Because it looks nothing like the Halo 3 one, and nothing has ever been "visually updated" that much. [[User talk:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 17:56, 21 April 2012 (EDT)

::[[:File:Halo4-MasterChief-John117.png|'''Uno''']] and [[:File:Halo4 Grunt.png|'''Dos''']]. You were saying? {{User:Grizzlei/Sig}}

::::Off topic for a sec, but where did that really freaky Grunt picture come from? [[User talk:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 04:13, 22 April 2012 (EDT)

::::@Morhek: Actually, it might as well be retcons. Designs for the anatomy for most Covenant species have evolved significantly since H1, though the general harness/armour designs might be, as you said, of some canon explanation (think space pirates!).— <span style="font-size:16px; font-family:OrbitronMedium;">[[User:Subtank|<span style="color:#FF4F00;">subtank</span>]]</span> 09:11, 22 April 2012 (EDT)

===Comment===

Also, one needs to ask: how could one type 8 over 5 if the supposedly intended designation is "55"? Even if you use a keypad, it would eventually turn out as 55... unless bsangel had something else on her mind as she type it out. — <span style="font-size:16px; font-family:OrbitronMedium;">[[User:Subtank|<span style="color:#FF4F00;">subtank</span>]]</span> 06:31, 21 April 2012 (EDT)

We know BS Angels gamer tag and if it's officially released then there isn't a reason she wouldn't answer. Why don't we have a trusted admin ask her? [[User talk:Jac0bBau3r1995|Jac0bBau3r1995]] 22:04, 25 April 2012 (EDT)

Does anyone have any clarity on this? Your help would be very, very appreciated. For evidence of what I'm talking about go to this video and watch at the 0:53 mark. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pGNCH6y8OmM--[[User talk:Matt98|Matt98]] 15:11, 9 October 2012 (EDT)

:While that is a widespread assumption, no official source has said the BR85 was introduced after the war. ''Forward Unto Dawn'' probably carried a few BR85s since it was Hood's flagship and would be launching an expedition beyond the portal; the [[11th Marine Force Reconnaissance/ODST]] might have been field-testing the weapon. This is reinforced by the 2010 version of ''First Strike''. In the original version, the Spartans find then-unfamiliar battle rifles, (which are never called by name), inside CASTLE Base; though the BR55 was considered a canonically new weapon in 2003, it had long since been retconned into use throughout the war. The reprint got around this continuity snarl by saying that CASTLE Base had been testing "the BR55's newest version" (page 165). However, this is from Fred's perspective, so it is entirely possible that the new weapons were actually BR85s, which he assumed to be upgraded BR55s. The book makes specific mention of the rifle's optics rail, something the ''85'' has and the ''55'' lacks. --[[User talk:Braidenvl|Courage never dies.]] 15:34, 9 October 2012 (EDT)