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Can we get a new main image for this article? The existing image is fine, but it's off-colour and low quality.[[User:Rapturous|Rapturous]] 20:52, 29 October 2007 (UTC) | Can we get a new main image for this article? The existing image is fine, but it's off-colour and low quality.[[User:Rapturous|Rapturous]] 20:52, 29 October 2007 (UTC) | ||
Why does everyone say Chief is lucky? why yes, I suppose saving the Human race was just a luck of the draw....--[[user:SPARTAN-077| The State]]<sup>([[user talk:SPARTAN-077|Our Decrees and Law]])</sup><sup>([[Special:Contributions/SPARTAN-077|The State Alchemists we've enlisted]])</sup> | Why does everyone say Chief is lucky? why yes, I suppose saving the Human race was just a luck of the draw....--[[user:SPARTAN-077| The State]]<sup>([[user talk:SPARTAN-077|Our Decrees and Law]])</sup><sup>([[Special:Contributions/SPARTAN-077|The State Alchemists we've enlisted]])</sup>[[Image:ROY!.jpg|25px]] 21:21, 19 September 2007 (UTC) | ||
Read the novels. --[[User:Ajax 013|Ajax 013]] 21:28, 19 September 2007 (UTC) | Read the novels. --[[User:Ajax 013|Ajax 013]] 21:28, 19 September 2007 (UTC) | ||
I have, and is there any evidence to support the saying "Chief is lucky"? --[[user:SPARTAN-077| The State]]<sup>([[user talk:SPARTAN-077|Our Decrees and Law]])</sup><sup>([[Special:Contributions/SPARTAN-077|The State Alchemists we've enlisted]])</sup> | I have, and is there any evidence to support the saying "Chief is lucky"? --[[user:SPARTAN-077| The State]]<sup>([[user talk:SPARTAN-077|Our Decrees and Law]])</sup><sup>([[Special:Contributions/SPARTAN-077|The State Alchemists we've enlisted]])</sup>[[Image:ROY!.jpg|25px]] 22:11, 19 September 2007 (UTC) | ||
:Read the novels again...constantly, people reiterate that the Chief has unbelievable luck. -[[User:Azathoth|<font color="black">''theblackthrone''</font>]] [[User talk:Azathoth|<font color="black"><sub>(atthecenter)</sub></font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Azathoth|<font color="black"><sub>(ofultimatechaos)</sub></font>]] 22:17, 19 September 2007 (UTC) | :Read the novels again...constantly, people reiterate that the Chief has unbelievable luck. -[[User:Azathoth|<font color="black">''theblackthrone''</font>]] [[User talk:Azathoth|<font color="black"><sub>(atthecenter)</sub></font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Azathoth|<font color="black"><sub>(ofultimatechaos)</sub></font>]] 22:17, 19 September 2007 (UTC) | ||
Yeah, they ''say'' he does, but is there proof?? --[[user:SPARTAN-077| The State]]<sup>([[user talk:SPARTAN-077|Our Decrees and Law]])</sup><sup>([[Special:Contributions/SPARTAN-077|The State Alchemists we've enlisted]])</sup> | Yeah, they ''say'' he does, but is there proof?? --[[user:SPARTAN-077| The State]]<sup>([[user talk:SPARTAN-077|Our Decrees and Law]])</sup><sup>([[Special:Contributions/SPARTAN-077|The State Alchemists we've enlisted]])</sup>[[Image:ROY!.jpg|25px]] 00:23, 20 September 2007 (UTC) | ||
:The thing is, nobody really knows what makes 117 better than the other Spartans. He's not the strongest (Sam), the fastest (Kelly), the smartest (open for debate, but not John), the best leader (Kurt), the best sniper (Linda), the sneakiest (Anton and probably Gray Team as well), the most versatile (Fred), the best pilot (Joshua), the most determined (James), the most impulsive (Will), the best at demolitions (Grace), or the best at 0-G (Li). That doesn't really leave many areas, but John's best quality is, in my opinion, his ability to survive anything. ''Anything.'' He's incredibly resilient, true, but that's not mostly what I mean: quite apart from surviving through adversity, adversity just doesn't seem to touch him. He's lucky. Anyone who has played Halo or Halo 2 on Heroic will acknowledge that although it takes considerable skill to play through the whole campaign on Heroic without dying. But playing through ''both'' campaigns back to back without dying once not only takes extraordinary skill, there's a couple places where it's just down to dumb luck. In that regard, John is lucky, and that's why everyone says he's the best of the Spartans. -[[User:Azathoth|<font color="black">''theblackthrone''</font>]] [[User talk:Azathoth|<font color="black"><sub>(atthecenter)</sub></font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Azathoth|<font color="black"><sub>(ofultimatechaos)</sub></font>]] 00:41, 20 September 2007 (UTC) | :The thing is, nobody really knows what makes 117 better than the other Spartans. He's not the strongest (Sam), the fastest (Kelly), the smartest (open for debate, but not John), the best leader (Kurt), the best sniper (Linda), the sneakiest (Anton and probably Gray Team as well), the most versatile (Fred), the best pilot (Joshua), the most determined (James), the most impulsive (Will), the best at demolitions (Grace), or the best at 0-G (Li). That doesn't really leave many areas, but John's best quality is, in my opinion, his ability to survive anything. ''Anything.'' He's incredibly resilient, true, but that's not mostly what I mean: quite apart from surviving through adversity, adversity just doesn't seem to touch him. He's lucky. Anyone who has played Halo or Halo 2 on Heroic will acknowledge that although it takes considerable skill to play through the whole campaign on Heroic without dying. But playing through ''both'' campaigns back to back without dying once not only takes extraordinary skill, there's a couple places where it's just down to dumb luck. In that regard, John is lucky, and that's why everyone says he's the best of the Spartans. -[[User:Azathoth|<font color="black">''theblackthrone''</font>]] [[User talk:Azathoth|<font color="black"><sub>(atthecenter)</sub></font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Azathoth|<font color="black"><sub>(ofultimatechaos)</sub></font>]] 00:41, 20 September 2007 (UTC) | ||
The supposed "source" leads to someone playing about with the UI, not an actual cutscene. It should be removed. | The supposed "source" leads to someone playing about with the UI, not an actual cutscene. It should be removed. [[Image:HalfJaw03.jpg|20px]] '''[[User:Specops306|<font color=purple>Kora ‘Morhekee]]</font>''' ''[[User talk:Specops306|<font color=blue>The Battle-Net</font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Specops306|<font color=purple>My Conquests.</font>]]'' 04:48, 20 September 2007 (UTC) | ||
Well, everyone thought the real cutscene was from Sierra 117. Without the film of the guy playing around with the UI, we would still think that. [[User:Blue Ninja|Blue Ninja]] 19:46, 20 September 2007 (UTC) | Well, everyone thought the real cutscene was from Sierra 117. Without the film of the guy playing around with the UI, we would still think that. [[User:Blue Ninja|Blue Ninja]] 19:46, 20 September 2007 (UTC) | ||
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*Where does the transcript of this level come from? Can somone provide a link to the video? ---[[User:Commander Jake|CT-5619]] <sup>[[User talk:Commander Jake|helmet comlink]]</sup> | *Where does the transcript of this level come from? Can somone provide a link to the video? ---[[User:Commander Jake|CT-5619]] <sup>[[User talk:Commander Jake|helmet comlink]]</sup> | ||
Did you seriously just say Chief isn't the best leader??????????? by far, thats one of the greatest things about him! and he's got skill, thats why he survives stuff --[[user:SPARTAN-077| The State]]<sup>([[user talk:SPARTAN-077|Our Decrees and Law]])</sup><sup>([[Special:Contributions/SPARTAN-077|The State Alchemists we've enlisted]])</sup> | Did you seriously just say Chief isn't the best leader??????????? by far, thats one of the greatest things about him! and he's got skill, thats why he survives stuff --[[user:SPARTAN-077| The State]]<sup>([[user talk:SPARTAN-077|Our Decrees and Law]])</sup><sup>([[Special:Contributions/SPARTAN-077|The State Alchemists we've enlisted]])</sup>[[Image:ROY!.jpg|25px]] 22:23, 20 September 2007 (UTC) | ||
We're lucky. We don't suffer the pain, go through the mental trauma and physical anguish, and we go back when we die. But in reality, assuming our playthrough is what really happened and is seamless, without the reversion after each death, then that's pretty incredible. No other Spartan in his situation could have destroyed the first Halo, and probably wouldn't have survived the second, nor the drop. Halo 3 eludes to facts written in the books, each of which has been checked to ensure consistency with the Halo "bible" that keeps all info on the Halo universe. Point is, John is the most generic Spartan, nothing too special, but almost as a way to make up for it, he tends to be able to survive in situations where most people's luck would run out. [[User:Cody2526|Cody2526]] 11:40, 29 September 2007 (UTC) | We're lucky. We don't suffer the pain, go through the mental trauma and physical anguish, and we go back when we die. But in reality, assuming our playthrough is what really happened and is seamless, without the reversion after each death, then that's pretty incredible. No other Spartan in his situation could have destroyed the first Halo, and probably wouldn't have survived the second, nor the drop. Halo 3 eludes to facts written in the books, each of which has been checked to ensure consistency with the Halo "bible" that keeps all info on the Halo universe. Point is, John is the most generic Spartan, nothing too special, but almost as a way to make up for it, he tends to be able to survive in situations where most people's luck would run out. [[User:Cody2526|Cody2526]] 11:40, 29 September 2007 (UTC) | ||
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== Forerunner Door == | == Forerunner Door == | ||
If you look closely at the metal object in the crater, one side is chared and one side is clearly forerunner door.--[[User talk:Sir Finnbar|Sir Finnbar]] 04:08, 25 February 2009 (UTC) | If you look closely at the metal object in the crater, one side is chared and one side is clearly forerunner door.--[[User talk:Sir Finnbar|Sir Finnbar]] 04:08, 25 February 2009 (UTC) | ||
== How did Johnson, Miranda and the Arbiter beat John back to Earth? == | == How did Johnson, Miranda and the Arbiter beat John back to Earth? == | ||
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Surely John should have arrived first having been aboard a Forerunner ship and all. How then did they manage to beat him back to Earth? | Surely John should have arrived first having been aboard a Forerunner ship and all. How then did they manage to beat him back to Earth? | ||
:As explained in [[Halo: Uprising]], John spent several days fighting onboard the Forerunner ship or in outer space. That's why he finds all his companions when he lands. Spirit of Fire 12:33 19 April 2009 (UTC) | :As explained in [[Halo: Uprising]], John spent several days fighting onboard the Forerunner ship or in outer space. That's why he finds all his companions when he lands. {{User:Spirit of Fire/Sig}} 12:33 19 April 2009 (UTC) | ||
:John fought a lot on the Forerunner Dreadnought, therefore he arrived later than Johnson, etc.<font color="green">[[User:Rollersox|Death will follow you]]...</font><font color="blue" size="1"><sup>[[User talk:Rollersox|but you can survive]]</sup></font> 20:53, August 11, 2010 (UTC) | :John fought a lot on the Forerunner Dreadnought, therefore he arrived later than Johnson, etc.<font color="green">[[User:Rollersox|Death will follow you]]...</font><font color="blue" size="1"><sup>[[User talk:Rollersox|but you can survive]]</sup></font> 20:53, August 11, 2010 (UTC) | ||
== Timing? == | == Timing? == | ||
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I posted this under Miscellaneous Trivia, but it got edited out for an unknown reason. However, I put it back in, yet I'm not sure if there's anything wrong with it. I think it's a pretty good piece of trivia, considering that John's designation number IS 117. Can anyone else see if there's anything wrong with my edit? | I posted this under Miscellaneous Trivia, but it got edited out for an unknown reason. However, I put it back in, yet I'm not sure if there's anything wrong with it. I think it's a pretty good piece of trivia, considering that John's designation number IS 117. Can anyone else see if there's anything wrong with my edit? | ||
-[[User talk:Domos-022|Domos-022]] 07:12, 13 May 2009 (UTC) | -[[User talk:Domos-022|Domos-022]] 07:12, 13 May 2009 (UTC) | ||