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Idk how wikis work, I never use them, but as I understand it, editing this page is how to discuss what changes should be made for armor customization pages. I thought I edited it yesterday but now it's not showing up, not sure what I am doing wrong. But anyway why does Halo 2 armor customzation not have its own article, when all the other games do? There is a link here for Halo 2 armor customization but the link doesn't work. Surely this page should exist?
==Useless info==
Why do we need two separate lists of how to unlock each permutation? Either the list or the chart needs deleted, it is redundant. [[User:InnerRayg|InnerRayg]] 17:16, 24 February 2008 (UTC)


== IMPORTANT - Armour Permutations: Split this page up? ==
ALL of this info is completely fucking useless because amid all the fanwank backslappery about how you unlock all this stuff, there isn't a single line explaining how the player actually SETS which armour is used. Are you all so fucking detached from reality that you don't think that information is relevant???
This article is getting too big.


SUGGESTION: Split into "'''Armor Permutations'''" article for ''Halo 3'' & ''Halo 3: ODST'', and a seperate "'''Armory'''" article for ''Halo: Reach''.
....I'm pretty sure it's just really easy to figure out. Press the Start button, appearances, and you're done. Some people...well, some people are special. It's ok. [[User:InnerRayg|InnerRayg]] 01:54, 21 April 2008 (UTC)


The two subjects are too big to fit onto the same page, without cluttering it.
==Typo==
"There are a wide variety of SPARTAN armor permutations, with 12 helmets, 8 shoulder pieces, and 8 chest pieces for a total of 6,144 different SPARTAN armor permutation combinations: one helmet, two shoulder pieces, and chest piece per permutation. This excludes color variations."
Should say 10 helmets, 7 shoulder pieces, and 6 chest pieces for public use as well as a helemet, shoulder, and two chest pieces for Bungie's.


''--14 August 2010''


I agree. This page is getting way to large.[[User talk:TK 234|One who survived]] 23:09, August 31, 2010 (UTC)
I edited it to say 11 helmets because they probably counted the flaming chest piece is a helmet.


The page is large and covers material from two different games with major changes between them. People who are looking for information on the armory in Halo Reach should be able to go to a separate page for that, instead of having to scroll past all the irrelevant Halo 3 information. Also of note is the long paragraph explaining the revamped gameplay mechanics between Halo 3 and Halo: Reach. I'd agree that these changes warrant a separate article, and I vote that the page be split into two. - [[User talk:Jetz72|Jetz72]] 22:04, September 22, 2010 (UTC)
But the rest is correct, no matter if they aren't public. Somebody can change the number of possible combinations as I don't know how to count them.
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Thumbnail next to the first image in the article says "Purmutation" instead of "Permutation"


:I'm inclined to agree. True, they're essentially the same thing, but the page is too long. We should split it up, just like many other game-specific articles such as rank. --[[User:Jugus|<font color="MidnightBlue"><b>Jugus</b></font>]] <small>([[User talk:Jugus|<font color="Gray">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jugus|<font color="Gray">Contribs</font>]])</small> 22:08, September 22, 2010 (UTC)
Thumbnail next to one of the Spartan images says "Rouge helmet" instead of "Rogue Helmet"
::I would suggest hold off. Let's gather all of the information first and then reorganised them into templates. Halo 3 was in the same mess before, but got cleaned up a few months afterwards.- <font face="Century Gothic">[[User:Subtank|<font color="gold"><font color="#FF4F00">5</font>əb<font color="#FF4F00">'7</font>aŋk</font>]]<sup>([[User talk:Subtank|<font color="#FF4F00">7alk</font>]])</sup></font> 22:13, September 22, 2010 (UTC)
:::As far as gathering information goes, [http://www.bungie.net/Forums/posts.aspx?postID=47778155 this thread] seems to have a nice collection, with pictures, too. [[User talk:Jetz72|Jetz72]] 02:08, September 23, 2010 (UTC)


I have attempted to split this page up. I have pulled all the information we have on reach into a new article including all reach pictures from the gallery section but it continues to be ripped back to this article and the new one I created is being marked for deletion due to redundancy. This is highly annoying because whoever is doing it refuses to answer why they apparently do not want the article split or does not understand the concept of what I am doing. [[User talk:Griffmstr835|Griffmstr835]] 17:54, September 25, 2010 (UTC)
Might also be a good idea to move the picture of the "Elite in Red Armor" from the section devoted to Spartans into, you know, the section devoted to Elites. Just a thought.
:Please take a loot at the article here and tell me if you like how it looks and whether or ot you feel it should be deleted.
I know this has been around for a while now but I also agree that the page should be split. I was thinking that maybe we could avoid the new page's deletion if we have an official vote.--[[User talk:Soul reaper|Soul reaper]] 08:13, September 29, 2010 (UTC)
::So this vote has been sitting around for awhile now and no one has opposed to splitting the article. Are we ever going to split this article?--[[User:Ender the Xenocide|<font color="Green">Ender the Xenocide]]</font> 14:04, 8 December 2010 (EST)
===Support===
*{{Support}}-  Page is far too long and has enough information to warrant a split--[[User talk:Soul reaper|Soul reaper]] 08:13, September 29, 2010 (UTC)
*{{Support}}- Yeah its very crammed. If you split it into Halo 3/odst and Halo reach pages then you'll allow their respective info to be clearer. Right now you have to dig through a wall of text to  find specific info. All available information has been gathered for reach or is on its way so we can move it now. We've already finished our templates and what not. Any new info isn't going to flood in and will be easily added.--File:Legendary.jpg|20px]][[User:Ender the Xenocide|<font color="Green">Ender the Xenocide]]</font>File:Legendary.jpg|20px]] 17:23, 18 November 2010 (EST)
*{{Support}}- I agree. The information regarding the three different games does warrent a split. How ever, if the page is split, I would sugggest that you make individual pages for the armor types, detailing, where they were used, created, and any significant history reguarding the piece.I would be happy to do this if you would like! Please post any requests for this on my board or talk page. Here is the link: [[User:Alpha Spartan A|Alpha Spartan A]]
*{{Support}}- I support the idea. it gives people the ability to find things easier instead of searching through the monument of items here. --[[User talk:Failamanjaro|Failamanjaro]] 23:30, 14 December 2010 (EST)
*{{Support}}- Splitting would make this page much more user-friendly.--[[User talk:TK 234|One  who survived]] 19:39, 20 December 2010 (EST)
*{{Support}}- It will be much more easier to navigate the page, even with the contents box. "Do it."—Master Chief on [[Two Betrayals]]. [[User:Spartan331|S331]] 10:49, 14 January 2011 (EST)


===Neutral===
[[User:Thankskane|Thankskane]] 19:57, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
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===Apposed===
==Recon Armor==
On Friday, October 26, 2007, Bungie's Weekly Update revealed that certain players can obtain Recon armor. It says "We’ll give it out based on good deeds and valuable community service and occasionally because they make us laugh, as seen above. There will be plenty of occasions and reasons to get it." A "ZB Shogun" and a "Skyllus vBi" are the first two non-Bungie members to get the Recon permutations.


==Pilot armor==
who removed the halo reach pilot armor? and more inportantly, why was it removed?[[User talk:TK 234|One who survived]] 18:29, September 6, 2010 (UTC)


==Additions==
I took my two renders down. Nobody has my permission to post them on the internet. They weren't ever even supposed to leave AIM conversations.


I added the armor permutations found by modders (all 5 of the "numerous" ones for Spartans) as well as the custimzable portions of the armor (head, body, left shoulder, right shoulder). I am going to cite th sources when I get the page to it soon.... --MLG Cheehwawa ~~


-> Unrelated but no need for a new topic, I just signed up to add in that EOD Armour Second Stage Helmet costs 5000cR.
Cool, good job.--'''<font color="black">[[UoH|<font color="black">UNSCOH</font>]] [[Colonel|<font color="black">COL.</font>]]</font> [[User:Ryanngreenday|<font color="black">"Running</font>]]''' '''[[User talk:Ryanngreenday|<font color="black">Riot"</font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Ryanngreenday|<font color="black">Ryan</font>]]''' [[Image:Sm Sniper Rifle.gif]] ''[[User:Ryanngreenday#If_you.27ve_played_xbl_with_me|<font color="white">'''BAM'''</font>]]'' 22:30, 2 July 2007 (UTC) 02:34, 5 July 2007 (UTC)


I also just added about the last two Halo: REACH helmet types (Military Police and CQB) and Halo Waypoint, giving an example. I added this before the REACH Table of variants. [[User talk:OptiMAT|OptiMAT]] 08:07, September 17, 2010 (UTC)
== Unlockable ==


-> Update, EOD Stage 3 costs 3000cR
I heard talk the armor permutations have to be unlocked. Is there any evidence supporting this?


Yes, it was stated by bungie. Does anyone know how many gamescore points you need to unlock all of the armours?-- [[User:GhostR17|Trev]] 23:35, 30 August 2007 (UTC)


There's a little box labeled "Summary" under the content editor text box where you can explain the contributions you've made. No need to post it here.
We don't know if that is indeed the method of unlocking them.-- [[User:GhostXIII|Captain Ghost]] 23:44, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
[[User talk:Jetz72|Jetz72]] 22:04, September 22, 2010 (UTC)


== Unclassified chestplate? ==
Actually that was also stated by bungie. It is a sum of all gamescore acheived in halo 3, I just don't know if we need all 1000 to get all of them. I don't have xbox live so I can't get them all.-- [[User:GhostR17|GhostR17]] 00:21, 31 August 2007 (UTC)


in the main picture on this page, the thumbnails for the recon and serrity armors, there is bodyarmor that is not identified. what is this? recon armor? either way it needs to be investegated and edited.
Im actually thinking theres certain things you need to do to unlock them. Ninja migh be unlocked through a certain amount of assassination kills and the "samurai" might be acheived through beat downs and scout may be sniper kills. I guess we'll no for sure this tuesday.-DiablosInferno


After spending several minutes trying to figure out what the hell your on about, you just talking about, it doesn't matter, its the recon Chestplate, and that iamge needs to be removed, its terrible...--[[User:Ajax 013|Ajax 013]] 20:51, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
It depends. Some armor perms are given upon completion of the campaign on certain levels, others for achievements, or skulls. Some are for Gamerscore points. Some of them are unvealed in the "Extras" section of the offical Halo 3 guide in a relatively small box, in case it helps anyone. -Spartan119
some amors are unlocked by acheivements the recon is unlocked in holiday tournaments 50 points to get the whole armor


== Problem ==
== unknown weapon ==
How do you unlock these armors in multiplayer without xbox live?


:You don't. Pure and simple. [[User:Pyromancer|Pyromancer]] 14:34, 21 October 2007 (UTC) No, you can unlock some without xbox live such as hayabusa E.O.D and E.V.A. also there are some more you can unlock without xbox live
What is that weapon the spartan on the right holding? (the picture on the article)
I have over 1000g between halo 3 and ODST and i have the security shulders but not the helmet. whats up with that? also its not that you need these points in halo 3 because i dont have 750 on halo 3 by itself. [[User talk:Lizardassassin|Lizardassassin]] 17:11, April 24, 2010 (UTC)
<br />It looks like the plasma cannon turret or the halo PC fuel rod gun lowered...
<br />Does anyone know what it is? it was on the halo E3 trailer, arbiter was holding it on the scarab... [[User:Tmek|&#91;&#91;Image:Plasma_Grenade.jpg&#124;14px]] &#91;&#91;User:Tmek&#124;&lt;font color=&quot;lime green&quot;&gt;Assault rifle,]]&lt;/font&gt;&lt;sup&gt;&#91;&#91;User talk:Tmek&#124;&lt;font color=&quot;blue&quot;&gt; Chopper,&lt;/font&gt;]]&lt;/sup&gt; a spiker rifle and a chaingun and i&#39;m set!]] 14:35, 25 July 2007 (UTC)


== Guests Can Unlock Armor ==
== other armor ==


I wanted to see if a guest could unlock any armor in Halo 3 so I signed one in and went for the one non-achievement related armor, the Hayabusa. After collecting 5 skulls the Hayabusa Chest piece had been unlocked for the guest. After collecting 9 skulls, the Hayabusa Shoulders had been unlocked for the guest. I did NOT get the remaining skulls or attempt to get any achievements with the guest but some armor can be unlocked for guests. I'm not positive if the armor remains unlocked after the guest signs out, but I suspect that it doesn't. Here is an image from the game I used the Hayabusa Guest in, my Live Account is Ninjas in Nikes and the picture is on my profile on bungie.net if verification is needed.
does anyone know if the consiler armor will be playable --[[User:Combat|Combat]]


http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y76/Legato24/Halo%203/7507271-Medium.jpg
No it won't. Headpiece alone makes you have "SHOOT HERE!" written all over you. [[User:E93|E93]] 01:13, 9 November 2007 (UTC)


Guests can unlock and keep armor. It's a little obvious, really. There are many people whom don't have Xbox Live so they have to have regular Xbox profiles. Bungie wouldn't want to have underprivelaged people with Halo 3 not be able to enjoy Armor Permutations. [[User:E93|E93]] 01:06, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
== Arbiter's armor in multiplayer? ==
[[Image:DSCF0943.JPG|200px|right|thumb]]
I took this picture from a magazine, duz this mean the Arbiter's armor will be in halo 3 multiplayer?


That's a good point but it wasn't exactly what I was talking about. I meant a temporary profile such as the "Guest" profile that is available when you sign in another player.
[[User:Halofan|<font color="Green">ĦДĿΘFáЙ</font>]] [[Image:Legendary.jpg|30px]] [[User talk: Halofan|<font color="Red">"ДňḌ áиŐТЋéṜ ĜŗŲṆṭ</font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Halofan|bίТËṣ тḤє ḌŲšт"]][[Image:Haloforgheisonvv4.gif|40px]] 08:00, 3 September 2007 (UTC)


== Inaccuracies in Stated Unlocking Requirements ==
I've been changing any refrence to it as speculation cos i think its quite doubtful. For one his armour doesn't mix with the outher styles as the Spartan armour does. The variations are all basically changes to the chest plate, shoulder pad and helemt, legs and arms remain the same, which is obviously a problem with the Arbiter armour. Also theres no place for a logo because his armour is too ornate, it would jsut look distorted and strange. And finally, that iamge of the Arbiter together with an EVA Spartan is photoshopped, becuase that picture of the EVA Spartan is already existing as a stand along picture.You can also tell because the arbiter's light source is too his side and the Spartans is to his fron or above. In fact, i should probs remove all mention of arbiter armour...--[[User:Ajax 013|Ajax 013]] 08:08, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
The Security shoulder armor will not unlock merely by getting 750 points. They only unlock after completing all of the meta-game achievements, the page should be updated to reflect that.


:Further to that, this was reported:
Like I said, not all armor permutations have been uncovered. It could possibly be a choice. --[[user:Blemo|<font color="#D3D3D3">B</font><font color="#A9A9A9">le</font><font color="#808080">mo</font>]] http://www.wikia.com/skins/common/progress-wheel.gif <small><sup>[[user talk:Blemo|<font color="#A9A9A9">TALK</font>]]</sup> • <sub>  [http://halo.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Contributions/Blemo <font color="A9A9A9">CONTRIBUTIONS</font>]</sub></small> • <sup><small>[[Special:Mypage|<font color="#A9A9A9"><span class="insertusername">THE SOURCE OF SPAM</span></font>]] </small></sup> 18:14, 23 September 2007 (UTC)


I had just under 1k achievment points, no Stepp'n Razor and had marathon man when I realised I had mine.[[User:LegendStormcrow|LegendStormcrow]]
I've never ever seen Arbiter armour in Multiplayer, and yet there is mention of 'arbter katana' on the Armour perms page. Unless someone can come up with a screenshot, it should be removed. [[User:Diaboy|Diaboy]] 14:25, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
It doesn't exist [[User:W00tiness|W00tiness]]


:''"Unlocking the Security Shoulders does not require an arbitrary amount of points. Rather, the player must unlock 39 Achievments. Ergo, the points can vary considerably. I can testify to this, since I had 810 points and no shoulders, but then I got my 39th achievement (820 points) and I've had them ever since!"''
== Amount of Armor permutations confirmed in the live Epsilon feed leak ==


:If anyone can link a source that verifies the exact requirements, that would be fantastic. :) -- [[User:Manticore|<font color=black>'''Manticore'''</font>]]  <sup>[[User talk:Manticore|<font color=black>Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Manticore|<font color=black>Contributions</font>]]</sup> 13:45, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
In the live Feed the amount of Armor permutations was clearly listed to be 10 for Spartans and 5 for Elites. Only a few were actually unlocked for use in Epsilon but in the Armor selection menu it says "Armor X of 10" or "Armor x of 5" respectively for Spartans and Elites. This can barely seen in any of the recordings taken of the feed and placed on YouTube, due to YouTube's inherent quality, but you can ask any of the other hundreds of people that were watching it when he was customizing his armor and paying attention to that little detail.


Also, as of 10/20/07, the Elite Commando shoulder armor still will not unlock, at least for some.
REALLY?  I saw the leak as it was coming out and saw
it say '1 of 7.'[[User:70.100.166.161|70.100.166.161]] 22:43, 11 September 2007 (UTC)


Its 750 including or in addition to 40 for marathon man[[User:SargeLIVES|SargeLIVES]] 04:28, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
Well if you can actually get this concrete link for us wit actual evidence, it may be changed. --[[User:Ajax 013|Ajax 013]] 13:05, 5 September 2007 (UTC)


As of this morning, I have 845 achievement points and 30 achievements unlocked (including Marathon Man), but still don't have Security shoulders -- just FYI. I wonder if the source with 39 achievements had unlocked all the Metagame achievements? (I haven't done any of those.) Thehaikumaster 18:10, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
== New armor permu? ==


Found this tonight. Don't see it anywhere on the wiki yet, so I'll post it here for you guys to see. It possibly could be the one revealed at PAX event, but if nothing else, it's a better pic.
http://www.360wtf.com/2007/09/06/ninja-permutation-helmet-surfaces/


*Total Achievements: 31 of 49
Recon Armor. Only available to Bungie employees and some select members of the community (2 at the time of writing) Plus to people who hax and/or burned illegal copies. XP [[User:E93|E93]] 01:18, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
*Total Gamer Score: 845 of 1000
*meta: 0
*MM: yes
*sec shoulders: no
--[[User:Uberfuzzy|Uberfuzzy]] 18:08, 11 December 2007 (UTC)


NOTE FROM A GUEST - I do not have 39 Halo 3 achievements, I found that to unlock them - get 750 Achievment points in Halo 3, then complete 1 meta game achievement (I did demon) to unlock them.
== Fifth Elite Armor??? ==


MightyMe18 - I don't think that 39 achievements has anything to do with it. Right now I have 30 achievements, 600 gamerscore, and I have the security shoulder pads. I don't have any meta game achievements.
PLease someone can give me photos or links to something that can comfirm the fifth elite armor. [[User:Clavix2|<font color="Black">Clavix2</font>]] [[Image:Halo2emblemClavix.jpg|30px]] <sup> [[User talk:Clavix2|<font color="Red">SPAM COME HERE </font>]]</sup> <sup>[[Special:Contributions/Clavix2|<font color="Black"> NEVER DO THIS  </font>]]</sup> 15:16, 8 September 2007 (UTC)


Cha0tiks- for some reason i got all my meta game achievements and the marathon man achievement and no armor.
Nothing on it yet. You can't actually get most of the armor in Epsilon, most of it is locked, even though it is there. --[[User:86.155.52.59|86.155.52.59]] 16:56, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
but when i beat campaign on legendary the security shoulders were unlocked :o wierd


Guys. i've got something over 900 GS. i had completed 2 meta achievements after getting 800 GS, and still no shoulders. i had 40 acievements and still no shoulders. it may depend on some of those, but i can assure you that i unlocked my security shoulders upon completion of the "Steppin' Razor" achievement. we really need to work out EXACTLY what the requirements are. [[User:JakCurse|JakCurse]] 21:27, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
== Mark V armor ==


Hey guys, something is kinda strange here. My gamertag is Queenlittle55 and I only have 410 gamerscore while I still do have security shoulders. Any explanations? Just curious.
<s>It's already posted, but it's a terrible shot. Here's one I found in a teamxbox interview
http://img126.imageshack.us/img126/3818/markvzw6.png
</s>


I have the security shoulders with 455 gamerscore, 33/49 achievements. Have marathon man, haven't beaten the game yet. Missing all meta, tilt, blackeye, campaign completes(all), mission 2 and 7 achievements. -- Fanciest Pants
Okay, I signed up and added the image, thumbed it, all that stuff, and it goes wonky on me every time I save the edits. It previews like it should but whacks out when I save it. [[User:Spartan657|Spartan657]] 14:37, 19 September 2007 (UTC)


Watexggp_i thinks you got to do marathon man 2 get them thats when they came avilible 4 me and i hednt done no meta then but i did all the meta in the other day
for now i am reverting that cos it's quite horrific looking and its scarying the bejesus outta me. --[[User:Ajax 013|Ajax 013]] 14:44, 19 September 2007 (UTC)


Hello, I have seen many reports of the security shoulders unlocking, then locking shortly after. I have experienced this, but then I reunlocked them by simply getting another achievement. I got the Steppin Razor achievement, but I don't think the actual type of achievement counts. -Note From Guest
The only Mark V parts are chest and head...the legs and arms seem to be the same as Mark VI...why's that?-- [[User:Joshua 029|Joshua 029]] 17:21, 21 September 2007 (UTC)


Its the same with every armor set, the only differences between them are shoulder pads, the chest palte and helmet. --[[User:Ajax 013|Ajax 013]] 17:45, 21 September 2007 (UTC)


righty. i think we need to clear this up. i've got 760 gamerscore from halo, no meta achievements and no security 'pads. im going to do the first level meta (hopefully) and report back on whether i get them. oh, and i've GOT marathon man. add me on XBL (my gamertag is my Halopedia username) if you want to party up and do some of the meta.[[User:JakCurse|JakCurse]] 19:56, 6th January 2008
It is a mark 5 helmet and EOD body there would be a taller left shoulder blade box...thingy that would have a sloping conection on the front of the body[[User:SargeLIVES|SargeLIVES]] 04:23, 10 November 2007 (UTC)


EDIT- I've now got every achievement, barring "Steppin' Razor", "Overkill" and the metas (exepting Demon, which i've got in the last hour) and 910-ish gamerscore, STILL no security shoulders. this is either seriously bugged or it relies on one of the above achievements. im considering that it may be overkill, as i've seen people with 600 GS and security shoulders, with the majority of my achievements, plus, as i've said, overkill. i've completed the campaign on ledendary, and unlocked marathon man, so it isn't either of those. that, OR they're bugged like the commando shoulders. [[User:JakCurse|JakCurse]] 23:07, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
==offline?==
are the armor perms available offline


2nd EDIT- i've got them. after unlocking the meta achievement for the fourth mission, i still didnt have the shoulders, and that was the fortieth achievement, so it rules the "39" thing out. But today unlocking, "Steppin' Razor" i unlocked the shoulders ^^ as far as i'm concerned, that was the catalyst. [[User:JakCurse|JakCurse]] 21:35, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
The X out of 10 is kinda shot down now that there is 11 Spartan Armor Permutations at this moment, but even then it seems like a lot of the info on this armor is being pulled out of peoples own asses? The the ODST armor says you need to get a Multiplayer only achievement to unlock it, but it is unknow. And they state no source! The only thing that is know is that there is armor and most of it can be seen by going to www.bungie.net and then the bungie online section and going to peoples gamertags who are playing Halo 3 right now and look at the current armor set. All of the people right now seem to be using Spartan-II armor sets and no elite --[[User:Halo freak 117|Halo freak 117]] 06:36, 23 September 2007 (UTC)


I have all but one meta game achievement, no steppin razor, 815 gamerscore from 40 achivements and security shoulders. [[User talk:Agent Tasmania|Agent Tasmania]] 08:46, September 25, 2009 (UTC)
== what i don't get ==


:Read the timestamps on conversations before you post, Tasmania. <span style="background:#AADDAA;display:inline-block;height:16px;padding-right:4px;line-height:1em;position:relative;top:-3px;-moz-border-radius:0 50% 50%"><b> [[User:DavidJCobb|<span style="color:#000;position:relative;top:.15em">DavidJCobb&nbsp;</span>]]</b></span> 18:56, September 25, 2009 (UTC)
I don't understand why the SPI armor is available? You would think that they would have SPI armor along with the other permutations. [[User: Stryker|<font color="Black">Spartan-010:Stryker</font>]] <sup>[[User talk:Stryker|<font color="red">My Comm</font>]]</sup> <sub>[[Special:Contributions/Stryker|<font color=black>My Battles</font>]]</sub> [[Image:LTBar.png|15px]] 17:33, 23 September 2007 (UTC)


== Elite Commando Shoulders ==
Well... maybe it isn't considered <s>fanon</s> canon, according to Bungie... or sumfink... --[[user:Blemo|<font color="#D3D3D3">B</font><font color="#A9A9A9">le</font><font color="#808080">mo</font>]] http://www.wikia.com/skins/common/progress-wheel.gif <small><sup>[[user talk:Blemo|<font color="#A9A9A9">TALK</font>]]</sup> • <sub>  [http://halo.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Contributions/Blemo <font color="A9A9A9">CONTRIBUTIONS</font>]</sub></small> • <sup><small>[[Special:Mypage|<font color="#A9A9A9"><span class="insertusername">THE SOURCE OF SPAM</span></font>]] </small></sup> 18:09, 23 September 2007 (UTC)


The 02/08/08 update says that Steppin’ Razor unlocks the Commando Shoulders, not Killing Frenzy like the article says. Maybe we should change the article?
Canon you mean? And it is, but SPI wouldn't fit in with the armor perms, it isn't a variation of the MJOLNIR armor. --[[User:Ajax 013|Ajax 013]] 18:16, 23 September 2007 (UTC)


"The longstanding “Elite Commando Shoulders aren’t unlocking with the achievement” bug is being resolved in the auto update. <b>The shoulders weren’t unlocking when the Steppin’ Razor achievement was acquired.</b> In the post-auto update era, the Commando Shoulders will be unlocked for everyone, regardless of the status of the corresponding achievement." (69.47.222.91 20:24, 10 February 2008 (UTC))
:Yeah, yeah... canon. Sorry, meh typing's bad at this moment, because I'm eating ice cream, editing Halopedia, doing homework, watching TV, and talking on the phone at the same time. Old habits. :P --[[user:Blemo|<font color="#D3D3D3">B</font><font color="#A9A9A9">le</font><font color="#808080">mo</font>]] http://www.wikia.com/skins/common/progress-wheel.gif <small><sup>[[user talk:Blemo|<font color="#A9A9A9">TALK</font>]]</sup> • <sub>  [http://halo.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Contributions/Blemo <font color="A9A9A9">CONTRIBUTIONS</font>]</sub></small> • <sup><small>[[Special:Mypage|<font color="#A9A9A9"><span class="insertusername">THE SOURCE OF SPAM</span></font>]] </small></sup> 18:18, 23 September 2007 (UTC)


Its just for multiplayer purposes and has been designated as the EVA armor so it resembles SPI but is not in fact SPI --[[User:Halo freak 117|Halo freak 117]] 23:19, 23 September 2007 (UTC)


==Missing==


I need some help. I have the commando shoulders but I do NOT have either acheivment. I don't know (but its probably) if it is a glitch or not. I also have ALL EOD armor but i have NOT done ANY missions on legendary EXCEPT "halo" on rally point alpha and completed it. I have not done the ENTIRE level on legendary but yet I have ALL E.O.D. armor. whats up with that?
There's some missing pieces. How do you unlock the Mark V chestplate, for example? [[Image:HalfJaw03.jpg|20px]] '''[[User:Specops306|<font color=purple>Kora ‘Morhek]]</font>''' ''[[User talk:Specops306|<font color=blue>The Battle-Net</font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Specops306|<font color=purple>My Conquests.</font>]]'' 01:55, 30 September 2007 (UTC)


[[Special:Contributions/76.73.159.170|76.73.159.170]] 12:25, June 12, 2010 (UTC) Barry lee Coleman Jr.
[Edit by Porrick] Not all of the armour permutations have all pieces - Mark V, for example, is just a helmet and Security is just helmet and shoulders.
What I wonder is why the "rogue" set is spelled "rouge" in the pic posted on the armour sets page... I don't see any makeup on the model...


== Recon Armor ==
Cha0tiks- well there is a chest armor for the MARK v helmet but its not called MARK V, the chest armor is called EOD. to unlock this chest armor play "Tsavo Highway" on legendary


The Recon armor is a armor only used by bungie empoyees. (what the point teling us).So pretty much bungie employees have it only and no one else can have it. Now there has been four given it anyway. The lucky people that got it was by impressing bungie or making them laugh. Thats it so far. We really dont know any other way than that if we do we will post it up right away.
==Flaming head is unlockable==
Please dont complain to bungie and send them rude messages they really dont have time for that
there is a short simple answer for that if you ask "can i have the recon armor"
there answer will be "NO" they deserve the recon armor becuase they worked hard on the
game as much as we want it they decide if we get it or not there is a 15-25% chance of getting this armor
and like we said by making bungie laugh. One of the lucky people that got was they sniped someone it hit the ground it bounced back to him and killed him and that made bungie laugh or like the cone ownage, search for them on youtube.
so if you want the recon armor or the flaming recon or any other flaming helmet make bungie laugh


I know one of the people who got Recon armor was the guy from Digital Ph33r for his Arby 'n' the Chief skits, and 2 went to the people who died in weird ways, if there is 4, who is the 4th? And is there a reliable source for who has been given the armor?
You need to get 300 kills with incindinary grenades. I can't find a specific source at the moment, but someone claims that is it, and non-Bungie employees have been seen with it. Someone dig around for a link. -Erik 03:44, 12 October 2007 (UTC)


you can also receive recon by winning contests put on by bungie in matchmaking ~gil demoono
:really? However, that'll be hard, since there are rarely any Fire Bombs located in any maps, concidering that the Flaming Head ''is'' unlockable. --[[user:Blemo|<font color="#D3D3D3">B</font><font color="#A9A9A9">le</font><font color="#808080">mo</font> <font color="gray">23</font>]] http://www.wikia.com/skins/common/progress-wheel.gif <small><sup>[[user talk:Blemo|<font color="#A9A9A9">TALK</font>]]</sup> • <sub>  [http://halo.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Contributions/Blemo <font color="A9A9A9">CONTRIBUTIONS</font>]</sub></small> • <sub><small>[http://www.bungie.net/Stats/Halo3/Default.aspx?player=Blemo+23 <font color="A9A9A9">SERVICE RECORD</font>]</small></sub> 06:16, 10 November 2007 (UTC)


But, with the release of the Vidmaster challenges in Halo 3 and ODST, you can own your set of Recon armor. you must do,
Cha0tiks- either that or talk your friend over xbox live about killing him 300 times with flame 'nades another choice is make a forge stage with the max. no. of flame nades
Halo 3: Annual, Light switch, Brainpan, and 7 on 7.      
Halo 3 ODST: deja vu, Endure, and Classic.
they are some of the most challengeing achievements in both the games, but oh so worht it once you unlock RECON for yourself.


The only Bungie-exclusive armor is the flaming helmet,which is actually a chest piece.The flaming helmet was also given to the few people that were able to complete the Sarkathalon.
==Re: Flaming Head Theroies==
I'm pretty sure that's a rumor. lukems in Bungie's weekly update (10/12/07, http://www.bungie.net/News/content.aspx?type=topnews&cid=12857) says,


Sign ur posts[[User talk:SPARTAN-III leader|SPARTAN-III leader]] 17:36, August 12, 2010 (UTC)
"I’m making a list, I’m checking it twice, and it’s a list of dumb messages (and perfectly polite ones) inquiring about the Recon armor permutation. The short answer to those inquiries is, “No, you can’t have it.” The people you see with the Recon helmet are Bungie employees, and they did nothing in-game to unlock it. There is nothing you can do to unlock it.


==About Commando Shoulders==
The article states that "due to complaints from the players about this permutation being glitched, Bungie has fixed this and after the auto-update, will automatically unlock for every player, even those who don't have the permutation unlocked."
The same counts for the flames. Don’t be too jealous however, since the flaming head makes us a giant target and is reflected in our online performances sometimes. Sending us angry or rude messages won’t help and our policy now is to simply block communications with folks who’re rude and our sincere apologies to the polite folks, that we don’t have enough time to answer your question individually. We’ve had literally thousands of requests."


This should be ommited for two reasons.
Most likely the non-Bungie employees don't have it, or its something like it. Or they're hackers, in which case a real Bungie employee will take care of it.
1. It's already stated more clearly in another part of the article
no my friend has the recon chest and shoulers as fo the flame my bothe ot that 300 flame grenade kills
2. It was glitched for everyone, so I doubt fan complaints had anything to do with it being fixed.
the recon  u get it in holiay events like ranked matches 20 for one shoulder  40  for both 60 for chest and 80 for helmet - gundamon
And if it must stay, at least put it in the right section. It's under "Flight" armor!
[[User:71.189.22.224|71.189.22.224]] 21:13, 24 February 2008 (UTC)


== Overkill descritpions are WAY off ==


==RE: The Flaming Bungie Helmet.==
they said an overkill is 25 kills without a death inbetween when teh achievement cleary says:
I can't seem to remember where i found this out, but the bungie helmet is in fact not the helmet at all. it's an EOD body piece, but it's shown as "Bungie" in the selector, and the description is something like "Tested in the fires of a thousand battles, go forth and represent." i know that it isn't accurate, but it's along those lines. 88.110.115.160 22:29, 6 March 2008 (UTC)


===Reply===
Overkill
Bungie has said, several times, that there will be '''no''' new armour. Recon and Bungie armour are already on the Halo disc, just not unlocked. Oh, and sign your posts. [[User:DMNecris|<font color="Red">DMNecris</font>]]<sup>[[User talk:DMNecris|<font color="green">Talk</font>]]</sup><sub>[[Special:Contributions/DMNecris|<font color="Black">Contributions</font>]]</sub> 21:45, 22 October 2008 (UTC)


Not entirely true. there have been circulating rumors around the internet and on Xbox Live that Bungie will be completing full ODST Armor as their new "Recon" so to speak. (but unlockable to those who earn the vidmasters for Reach) they are coming out with full ODST when Halo Reach comes out. its only a rumor so far but i have a friend whos uncle works for bungie. (i've played with them both online he's not lying) and he said that they might make that armor permutation. =D full ODST finally!
Kill 4 enemies within 4 seconds of one another in a ranked free for all playlist (Online).


== Armor NOT Armour ==
Also do you think they're gonna come out with new permutations?


The game guide it self says "armor," not "armour." So I will try to change all of the armours to armor, any one who sees armour, feel free to change it to armor.
== missing elite amour ==


:Armour (British) or Armor (American), it is still the same thing. Nub. [[User Talk:-Ascension-|<font color="#4B5320">R</font>]][[User:-Ascension-|<font color="#355E3B">C</font>]] 16:07, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
i have unlocked all 1000 gammerscore for halo3 yet im missing a set of shoulder blades for the elite


Yeah, the game guide is written by Bungie, which is an american company, and that's why it says armor instead of armour. - [[Special:Contributions/24.78.136.207|24.78.136.207]] 05:49, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
help me


'''Both dilects''' are accepted as stated by CT. Leave the spelling of this type '''Alone''' [[User:Sub-71|<font color="Navy">5ub</font>]][[Special:EditCount/Sub-71|<font color="DarkBlue">nova</font>]] <nowiki>[</nowiki><small>[[User talk:Sub-71|<font color="MediumBlue">Comm<font color="DarkSlateGray">71</font></font>]] - [[Special:Emailuser/Sub-71|<font color="Blue">EComm</font><font color="DarkSlateGray">72</font>]] - [[Special:Contributions/Sub-71|<font color="RoyalBlue">Intell</font>]] - Halopedia:Covenant of Halopedia|<span title="SpecOps" style="color:DarkSlateGray">CoH</span>]] -  - SCoH|<span title="Administrative Assistant and Cadet" style="color:DarkSlateGray">SCoH</span>]]</small><nowiki>]</nowiki> 05:57, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
Ugh, your quite behind on Halo 3 online information aren't you? and also you don't bother to actually find out yourself either do you? see [[Elite Commando Armor]]. And its shoulder pads, not shoulder blades, shoulder blades are an important bone in you upper torso and shoulder. --[[User:Ajax 013|Ajax 013]] 11:56, 16 October 2007 (UTC)


:He is wrong. The accepted standard on Halopedia is American English; Bungie is an American company. It is most definitely not necessary, however, to make an edit merely for the purpose of changing the dialect of spelling. If ''you'' continue to do it, I'll send you on another week long vacation. {{User:Manticore/Sig}} 12:18, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
This is where I have to stick up for my self I did do my research and a killing frenzy was needed which I did but it failed to work. Then I found out that there is a problem with the amour and should be getting fixed soon .As for the shoulder blades well that was just stupidity. I just thought someone might have known something I didn’t
::As per Manticore. The accepted standard '''''is''''' American English. However, both spelling types '''are''' ultimately accepted, which is why we don't bother changing spellings. It'd be unfair to make all non-americans spell in american english, and vice versa. '''[[User:HaloDude|<font color="black">Ti</font>]]'''[[User talk:HaloDude|<font color="Orange">'''ger'''</font>]][[Special:Contributions/HaloDude|<font color="Black">'''rr'''</font>]][[halofanon:User:HaloDude|<font color="Orange">'''rr'''</font>]] 19:57, 27 January 2009 (UTC)


::Was that week vacation directed to me? because I clearly stated to leave the spelling dilects '''alone''' [[User:Sub-71|<font color="Navy">5ub</font>]][[Special:EditCount/Sub-71|<font color="DarkBlue">nova</font>]] <nowiki>[</nowiki><small>[[User talk:Sub-71|<font color="MediumBlue">Comm<font color="DarkSlateGray">71</font></font>]] - [[Special:Emailuser/Sub-71|<font color="Blue">EComm</font><font color="DarkSlateGray">72</font>]] - [[Special:Contributions/Sub-71|<font color="RoyalBlue">Intell</font>]] - - SCoH|<span title="Administrative Assistant and Cadet" style="color:DarkSlateGray">SCoH</span>]]</small><nowiki>]</nowiki> 12:20, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
And come on full 1000 gammerscore for halo 3 thats not bad
:::Sorry Manticore, I just read over it again and I think you ment that statement for the IP [[User:Sub-71|<font color="Navy">5ub</font>]][[Special:EditCount/Sub-71|<font color="DarkBlue">nova</font>]] <nowiki>[</nowiki><small>[[User talk:Sub-71|<font color="MediumBlue">Comm<font color="DarkSlateGray">71</font></font>]] - [[Special:Emailuser/Sub-71|<font color="Blue">EComm</font><font color="DarkSlateGray">72</font>]] - [[Special:Contributions/Sub-71|<font color="RoyalBlue">Intell</font>]] -  - SCoH|<span title="Administrative Assistant and Cadet" style="color:DarkSlateGray">SCoH</span>]]</small><nowiki>]</nowiki> 12:23, 27 January 2009 (UTC)


::::I thought it was obvious it was directed at you. {{User:Manticore/Sig}} 12:26, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
== Unclassified chestplate? ==


:::::Ok Look my friend I have stopped with the entire "Spelling dilects arguement" I only want to revert unlogical edits and vandals and edit grammar mistakes, and also edit spelling mistakes like... H4lo [[User:Sub-71|<font color="Navy">5ub</font>]][[Special:EditCount/Sub-71|<font color="DarkBlue">nova</font>]] <nowiki>[</nowiki><small>[[User talk:Sub-71|<font color="MediumBlue">Comm<font color="DarkSlateGray">71</font></font>]] - [[Special:Emailuser/Sub-71|<font color="Blue">EComm</font><font color="DarkSlateGray">72</font>]] - [[Special:Contributions/Sub-71|<font color="RoyalBlue">Intell</font>]] -  - SCoH|<span title="Administrative Assistant and Cadet" style="color:DarkSlateGray">SCoH</span>]]</small><nowiki>]</nowiki> 12:29, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
in the main picture on this page, the thumbnails for the recon and serrity armors, there is bodyarmor that is not identified. what is this? recon armor? either way it needs to be investegated and edited.
I think it is necesary to have one or the other, because when you go looking through the pages, one sentence will say "armor," the next "armour."
So, I am chosing to write "armor," nothing against the British, but Bungie is American, so it should really be "armor."


Yeah i agree with the other guy too that some sentences say armor and others say armour, that could be quite weird if someone is editing the pages and then the other guy changed it back, and it pretty much get annoyed when editing cause you will see more red doted lines underneath them... I support both dialects but it just feels easier if you dont see the red line / dots below them...[[User:.::souljer::.|<font color="red"><tt>'''Soul-Reaper'''</tt></font>]]<sup>[[User talk:.::souljer::.|<font color="orange">'''Can't talk...being chased !!'''</font>]]</sup><sub>[http://halopedian.com/Special:Editcount/.::souljer::. <font color="gold">Pepsi makes me High!</font>]</sub> <sup>UserWiki:.::souljer::.|<font color="silver">Project: PROMETHEUS</font>]]</sup> 17:25, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
After spending several minutes trying to figure out what the hell your on about, you just talking about, it doesn't matter, its the recon Chestplate, and that iamge needs to be removed, its terrible...--[[User:Ajax 013|Ajax 013]] 20:51, 16 October 2007 (UTC)


Does it matter? --[[User talk:Burnoutexpert3|Burnoutexpert3]] 16:03, December 4, 2009 (UTC)
== Problem ==
How do you unlock these armors in multiplayer without xbox live?


:Not really. Which is why if you see it spelled one way, leave it that way. <b>[[User:Smoke.|<span style="color:Gray; font-weight:bold; font-family:Tahoma Small Cap">Smoke</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Smoke.|<span style="color:Gray; font-weight:bold; font-family:Tahoma Small Cap">Sound off!</span>]]</sup></b> 16:21, December 4, 2009 (UTC)
:You don't. Pure and simple. [[User:Pyromancer|Pyromancer]] 14:34, 21 October 2007 (UTC)         No, you can unlock some without xbox live such as hayabusa E.O.D and E.V.A. also there are some more you can unlock without xbox live


== Unlockable Elite Armor ==
== Guests Can Unlock Armor ==


There should be something in there the says all the unlockable Elite armor for people without Xbox Live just like that thing in there that says all the unlockable Spartan armor for people without Xbox live.--[[User talk:Darth Malice the Destroyer|Darth Malice the Destroyer]] 22:43, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
I wanted to see if a guest could unlock any armor in Halo 3 so I signed one in and went for the one non-achievement related armor, the Hayabusa. After collecting 5 skulls the Hayabusa Chest piece had been unlocked for the guest. After collecting 9 skulls, the Hayabusa Shoulders had been unlocked for the guest. I did NOT get the remaining skulls or attempt to get any achievements with the guest but some armor can be unlocked for guests. I'm not positive if the armor remains unlocked after the guest signs out, but I suspect that it doesn't. Here is an image from the game I used the Hayabusa Guest in, my Live Account is Ninjas in Nikes and the picture is on my profile on bungie.net if verification is needed.


I think that too. And why should we be forced to pay $60 a year for it? I want the Commando Harness, rouge helmet, and scout shoulders sooo bad, but the Bungie-Microsoft pathetic plan to get people to buy Xbox live just to get the armor is why they had to be cruel. "Unlock 'This Achievment (Online)'" should be "Unlock 'This Achievment (Online)' or 'Complete Campaign on Legendary with at least two skulls on'." But that's buisness. - [[User:Echo 1 |Cprl. Echo 1]] image: SpecHarness.jpg | 28px [[User_Talk:Echo 1 |High Resolution]] [[Special:Contributions/Echo 1 |Poor Quality]] 00:44, July 28, 2010 (UTC)
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y76/Legato24/Halo%203/7507271-Medium.jpg


At least in Halo:Reach you can buy helmets instead of having to "earn" them.
Guests can unlock and keep armor. It's a little obvious, really. There are many people whom don't have Xbox Live so they have to have regular Xbox profiles. Bungie wouldn't want to have underprivelaged people with Halo 3 not be able to enjoy Armor Permutations. [[User:E93|E93]] 01:06, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
--[[User talk:Failamanjaro|Failamanjaro]] 23:33, 14 December 2010 (EST)


== Prepare to drop? ==
That's a good point but it wasn't exactly what I was talking about. I meant a temporary profile such as the "Guest" profile that is available when you sign in another player.


So...we ''don't'' want to mention anything on this page about the Halo 3 ODST multiplayer characters?
== Inaccuracies in Stated Unlocking Requirements ==
The Security shoulder armor will not unlock merely by getting 750 points. They only unlock after completing all of the meta-game achievements, the page should be updated to reflect that.


[[User talk:Daget Sparrow|Capt. Daget J. Sparrow]] 08:51, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
:Further to that, this was reported:


:Well, there's no actual armour permutation for the ODSTs...- <b>[[User:Subtank|<font color="gold"><font color="#FF4F00">5</font>əb<font color="#FF4F00">'7</font>aŋk</font>]]<sup>([[User talk:Subtank|<font color="#FF4F00">7alk</font>]])</sup></b> 11:14, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
:''"Unlocking the Security Shoulders does not require an arbitrary amount of points. Rather, the player must unlock 39 Achievments. Ergo, the points can vary considerably. I can testify to this, since I had 810 points and no shoulders, but then I got my 39th achievement (820 points) and I've had them ever since!"''


I was thinking from a multiplayer angle rather than a canonised angle...I just thought that we should mention something about them for multiplayer.
:If anyone can link a source that verifies the exact requirements, that would be fantastic. :) -- [[User:Manticore|<font color=black>'''Manticore'''</font>]] [[Image:Fleet Admiral.jpg|20px|Manticore is a Halopedia administrator.]] <sup>[[User talk:Manticore|<font color=black>Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Manticore|<font color=black>Contributions</font>]]</sup> 13:45, 21 October 2007 (UTC)


[[User talk:Daget Sparrow|Capt. Daget J. Sparrow]] 08:49, 1 August 2009 (UTC)
Also, as of 10/20/07, the Elite Commando shoulder armor still will not unlock, at least for some.


:From the multiplayer angle, the Body Suit they wore is nothing interesting; backpacks, small add-on objects on helmets, add-on shield... Oh, I don't think H3:ODST has a Multiplayer like H3, so I guess you mean the [[Firefight]] feature. If so, well, I think you can only choose the characters you've unlocked. Now, that said, H3:ODSTs don't actually have any armour permutation... unless of course you consider the backpack as an add-on object...- <b>[[User:Subtank|<font color="gold"><font color="#FF4F00">5</font>əb<font color="#FF4F00">'7</font>aŋk</font>]]<sup>([[User talk:Subtank|<font color="#FF4F00">7alk</font>]])</sup></b> 09:15, 1 August 2009 (UTC)
Its 750 including or in addition to 40 for marathon man[[User:SargeLIVES|SargeLIVES]] 04:28, 10 November 2007 (UTC)


thats funny because bungie said that they are armor perms so i think they should be added ad for those who dont believe me search evrything related to fire fight :from geust
As of this morning, I have 845 achievement points and 30 achievements unlocked (including Marathon Man), but still don't have Security shoulders -- just FYI. I wonder if the source with 39 achievements had unlocked all the Metagame achievements? (I haven't done any of those.) [[User:Thehaikumaster|Thehaikumaster]] 18:10, 5 December 2007 (UTC)


the guy above me is correct there is a diffrence between the shoulders and back packs.the helmets have some diffrences so i don't see why not?--[[User talk:Spartanc18|Spartanc18]] 16:55, 15 August 2009 (UTC)


*Total Achievements:  31 of 49
*Total Gamer Score: 845 of 1000
*meta: 0
*MM: yes
*sec shoulders: no
--[[User:Uberfuzzy|Uberfuzzy]] 18:08, 11 December 2007 (UTC)


== Theory ==
NOTE FROM A GUEST - I do not have 39 Halo 3 achievements, I found that to unlock them - get 750 Achievment points in Halo 3, then complete 1 meta game achievement (I did demon) to unlock them.


I know that Bungie confirmed that armor permutations have no effect on gameplay, but I think they might have a slight effect. I've noticed that sometimes while wearing certain armor permutations you seem to do better at a certain thing. I have a theory, for example CQB armor seems to slightly help you and keep you alive longer in close quarters combat, EOD seems to keep you alive longer when faced with explosives, and Scout armor seems to be more stealthy and makes it easier to snipe and sneak up on people. Could someone maybe test this theory with all the types of armor and maybe they could try different armor combination s.--[[User talk:Darth Malice the Destroyer|Darth Malice the Destroyer]] 01:14, September 30, 2009 (UTC)
MightyMe18 - I don't think that 39 achievements has anything to do with it. Right now I have 30 achievements, 600 gamerscore, and I have the security shoulder pads. I don't have any meta game achievements.


:Yeah, it's all in your head. If Bungies says it has no effect, it has no effect.--[[File:Emblem 1.jpg|20px]][[User:Rusty-112|<font color="Blue">'''Rusty'''</font>]][[User:Rusty-112|<font color="Red">'''-'''</font>]]UserWiki:Rusty-112|<font color="Blue">'''112'''</font>]] 01:51, September 30, 2009 (UTC)
Cha0tiks- for some reason i got all my meta game achievements and the marathon man achievement and no armor.
but when i beat campaign on legendary the security shoulders were unlocked :o wierd


::Except where visuals come into play; the katana sticks out, the globe helmet is shiny as hell, Scout and recon have tiny less-reflective view ports, so on so on.--[[User talk:Kre &#39;Nunumee|Kre &#39;Nunumee]] 02:32, September 30, 2009 (UTC)
Guys. i've got something over 900 GS. i had completed 2 meta achievements after getting 800 GS, and still no shoulders. i had 40 acievements and still no shoulders. it may depend on some of those, but i can assure you that i unlocked my security shoulders upon completion of the "Steppin' Razor" achievement. we really need to work out EXACTLY what the requirements are. [[User:JakCurse|JakCurse]] 21:27, 25 January 2008 (UTC)


:::What I was trying to say is that certain armor permutations have a skinnier profile while others have a larger profile and the shape could have some small unnoticeable effect ex. skinner armor is stealthier and harder to stick and aim at since it has a smaller profile. You know what they say, you won't knock it till you try it.--[[User talk:Darth Malice the Destroyer|Darth Malice the Destroyer]] 01:09, October 1, 2009 (UTC)
Hey guys, something is kinda strange here. My gamertag is Queenlittle55 and I only have 410 gamerscore while I still do have security shoulders. Any explanations? Just curious.


::::Different armor permutations only ''appear'' different. All different permutations for both Spartans and Elites have the same size hit box. Permutations only effect how easily your character is seen. That said, the biggest difference is what colour you are and whether your head has a large visor. Beyond that any differences when it comes to shoulders and chests are negligible. --[[File:Emblem 1.jpg|20px]][[User:Rusty-112|<font color="Blue">'''Rusty'''</font>]][[User:Rusty-112|<font color="Red">'''-'''</font>]]UserWiki:Rusty-112|<font color="Blue">'''112'''</font>]] 02:09, October 1, 2009 (UTC)
== Elite Pictures ==
I'm pretty sure the picture displaying all of the Elite armor has the Ascetic and Commando armors reversed. [[User:Blade-Swift|Blade-Swift]] 03:56, 22 October 2007 (UTC)


== can you unlock armor in splitscreen co-op campiagn? ==
Indeed, the two armor images are VERY bad, i need to delete them off the face of the Earth and replace them....--[[User:Ajax 013|Ajax 013]] 10:29, 22 October 2007 (UTC)


excuse my bad spelling and grammer. --[[User talk:Burnoutexpert3|Burnoutexpert3]] 15:19, October 30, 2009 (UTC)
== Pumpkin Heads ==


:Yes... because you're still playing the campaign. No offense, but that's a stupid question. --[[User:Thunderstream328|<span style="color:SteelBlue; font-family:Algerian; ">'''T'''</span>]] [[User Talk:Thunderstream328|<span style="color:DodgerBlue; font-family:Bodoni MT Condensed; ">'''3'''</span>]] UserWiki:Thunderstream328|<span style="color:Blue; font-family:Castellar; ">'''2'''</span>]] [http://halopedian.com/Special:Contributions/Thunderstream328 <span style="color:MidnightBlue; font-family:Courier New; ">'''8'''</span>]  15:24, October 30, 2009 (UTC)
I heard from someone that if you reach a 25 in the Halloween playlist, you get a Pumpkin Head helmet....is that true? [[User:Kap2310|Kap2310]] 22:24, 31 October 2007 (UTC)


== Other Armor Unlocked ==
Sounds pretty false.
Besides, i'm not playing on it, it sucks, alot. --[[User:Ajax 013|Ajax 013]] 22:59, 31 October 2007 (UTC)


Technically, if you have bought ODST, you can get the Security helmet, and the Katana. I was able to unlock them at 1100 G and 44 achievements. Maybe someone should put this on? [[User talk:Thebobafettest|Thebobafettest]] 17:24, October 30, 2009 (UTC)
It was actualy the best way to get acheivemnts it counted as ranked FFA for that purpose and had BTB sizes and omnichat[[User:SargeLIVES|SargeLIVES]] 04:30, 10 November 2007 (UTC)


With exception of the Vidmasters,none of the achievments gained on the Campaign/Firefight disc do anything for H3 armor
== Elite Armor Permutations Fixed. ==


I believe he means the multiplayer disk and the new achievements. [[User talk:Dragonblaze-052|Dragonblaze-052]] 02:02, September 6, 2010 (UTC)
I re-uploaded an image with the elite permutations with the correct labeling.


== Reach needs revision ==
So the caption can now be changed.


Look at the list of armor permutations for Reach, they don't match up with their credits or anything like that.
== Armor glitch... no not that one ...or that one...OR THAT one. ==


You mean on Bungie.net or here?--[[User talk:Sangheili Commando 021: Fluffball Gato|Fluffball Gato]] 15:37, April 24, 2010 (UTC)
On a co-op playthrough of Floodgate one of the elite corpses in infinite devil machine had a fusion assault/combat helmet with an assault front face and the rear finns of combat not sure whaere to file this. My friend gamertag SanitysEclips3 says he is going to post a screen of it on his fileshare not sure if he has though[[User:SargeLIVES|SargeLIVES]] 04:37, 10 November 2007 (UTC)


:Well there really isn't a reference is there? Most of this is from the Beta and everything will change upon release. We just have to wait until the game is out or pirated since that will be sooner. -- ([[User talk:Lone Hunter|Lone Hunter]])
== Armor for everyone ==


== Lag reveals unfinished armor permutations and Campaign armor ==
When you unlock armor perms are they unlocked for other profiles also?


:''See: [[Talk:Halo: Reach Multiplayer Beta#Lag reveals unfinished armor permutations and Campaign armor]].'' <span style="background:#ADA;display:inline-block;height:16px;padding-right:4px;line-height:1em;position:relative;top:-3px;-moz-border-radius:0 50% 50%"><b>&nbsp;[[User:DavidJCobb|<span style="color:#000;position:relative;top:.15em">DavidJCobb&nbsp;</span>]]</b></span> 03:31, May 7, 2010 (UTC)
Definitely not; my roommate has a profile on my Xbox, and he only has access to armor he's unlocked. [[User:Thehaikumaster|Thehaikumaster]] 18:12, 5 December 2007 (UTC)


== Glitched Armor? ==
== MARK V armor ==


I have ALL E.O.D. armor but I have not "completed" the entire campaign mode on legendary. the only mission the game says I "completed on legendary" is halo but I only did the rally point alpha! I did not complete the ENTIRE level front to back on legendary! When it says "to unlock this armor blah blah blah, Complete the CAMPAIGN mode" does it mean like the ENTIRE campaign or just the mission "halo" as it is the last mission in the campaign. Also I have the Elite Commando Shoulder Armor but I have NOT done the "Steppin' Razor" or the other acheivment ( I don't know which it is ) but either way I have it. Is this armor glitched or something? I would apreciate ANY help I could get. [[Special:Contributions/76.73.159.170|76.73.159.170]] 12:31, June 12, 2010 (UTC) Barry Lee Coleman Jr.
i know the description says "unlock the UNSC Spartan achievement" and it says "Earn your Sergeant rating to be recognized as a true Spartan". But when do you exactly Earn your Sergeant rank?? :)


The Commando Shoulders unlock automatically for everyone after the auto-updates are installed. The auto-updates are installed after you buy Halo 3: ODST or something. Further on, I don't know about the glitch for your E.O.D armor. On Halo 3: ODST, I completed the last level on Heroic, but I got no achievement: "Campaign Complete: Heroic". So, your game might be bugged or something, I don't know. [[User:Youngrubby|<span style="color:green"><b>Rezo </b></span><span style="color:blue"><b>'Scratoqee</b></span>]] [[File:LocustHW.png|38px]] ([http://halopedian.com/User_talk:Youngrubby <span style="color:red"><b>Talk</b></span>]) 20:05, June 17, 2010 (UTC)
:On Xbox Live. -- <span style="background:white">[[User:Manticore|<span style="color:black">'''Manticore'''</span>]] [[User talk:Manticore|<span style="color:black">(talk)</span>]]</span> 10:00, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
==Recon in Reach?==
Yah, yah, I know that people that get the Limited and Legendary editions get exclusive armor and effects (actually I am saving up to get the Legendary edition) and I know that you have to get Reach on the launch day to get Recon, but can you pre order Reach to get Recon in it?
<br />


If you live in the USA, you can pre-order or buy on the first day. If you live anywhere else, you have to pre-order to get the Recon helmet
you've got to hit a certain amount of EXP to get to the sergeant ranks. it's not much. to get to the officer ranks you've got to have 70 EXP and 10 skill though. [[User:JakCurse|JakCurse]]20:00 6th January 2008


== Elite Armor in Reach? ==
==Re: Security Shoulders==
righty. i think we need to clear this up. i've got 760 gamerscore from halo, no meta achievements and no security 'pads. im going to do the first level meta (hopefully) and report back on whether i get them. oh, and i've GOT marathon man. add me on XBL (my gamertag is my Halopedia username) if you want to party up and do some of the meta.[[User:JakCurse|JakCurse]] 19:56, 6th January 2008


I heard that you can only play as elites in certain game types, but can we still play as them in custom games?[[User talk:Tormound117|Tormound117]] 13:40, July 17, 2010 (UTC)
EDIT- I've now got every achievement, barring "Steppin' Razor", "Overkill" and the metas (exepting Demon, which i've got in the last hour) and 910-ish gamerscore, STILL no security shoulders. this is either seriously bugged or it relies on one of the above achievements. im considering that it may be overkill, as i've seen people with 600 GS and security shoulders, with the majority of my achievements, plus, as i've said, overkill. i've completed the campaign on ledendary, and unlocked marathon man, so it isn't either of those. that, OR they're bugged like the commando shoulders. [[User:JakCurse|JakCurse]] 23:07, 22 January 2008 (UTC)




2nd EDIT- i've got them. after unlocking the meta achievement for the fourth mission, i still didnt have the shoulders, and that was the fortieth achievement, so it rules the "39" thing out. But today unlocking, "Steppin' Razor" i unlocked the shoulders ^^ as far as i'm concerned, that was the catalyst. [[User:JakCurse|JakCurse]] 21:35, 25 January 2008 (UTC)


Yes, but you have to edit the gametype[[User talk:Toen6|Toen6]] 15:39, August 7, 2010 (UTC)
==Security Shoulders==


== Check THIS Out ==
This is a little strange. My gamer tag is Jake Conhale, and I could have sworn I got the shoulders and then they relocked. When they first became available, I had just gotten the Lee R. Wilson memorial achievement, and that put my gamer score at 890. The achievements I had not yet gotten were all but Reclaimer of the campaign scoring, Mongoose Mowdown, Steppin' Razor, Killing Frenzy, We're in for some Chop, Two For One, and Maybe Next time Buddy.


Helps confirm aLOT of stuff in The Armory... [http://xbox360.ign.com/dor/objects/14276699/halo-project/videos/halor_armory_montage_072210.html]
I am pretty sure that I hadn't had this before, as I had previously gotten Overkill, Triple Kill, and Up Close and Personal all at once immediately prior to the Lee R. Wilson achievement, and I had cycled through the armor permutations.


All prices and items shown in the video are up [https://docs.google.com/fileview?id=0B0RHRUxCT1niODNjNWZlYzMtMWY0OC00YmRjLWI0NTAtMTNiNmRiOWIxY2Nk&hl=en here]
The next day, I got Mongoose Mowdown, unlocking the Scout Shoulders, but the Security Shoulders are now locked again. I wasn't sure prior if I could have mistaken the EOD shoulders for the Security, but I remember the sheer bulkiness of the Security, the boxiness.


== Problem ==
I just checked Theater and I even have a Lone Wolves video with one of the shoulders! I definitely had the shoulders, now I do not. I am saving the film in case anyone is curious.


If you recieve credits in the same amount as you did on the Reach Beta, that means buying armour will take a '''lot''' of saving up... {{SUBST:User:Xhodocto3546/Sig}} 21:30, September 2, 2010 (UTC)
I am hoping that they will unlock again as I get the rest of the achievements, but who knows?
written 22nd January, 2008


Campaign meta-score and achievments? [[User talk:Dragonblaze-052|Dragonblaze-052]] 02:08, September 6, 2010 (UTC)
== Re: Security ==


You think it might contribute to that then? Interesting idea, actually. [[User:Xhodocto3546|Xhodocto3546]]
--[[User:Dat Gnat|Dat Gnat]] 00:09, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
Oh yeah? I've gotten the Security Shoulder Pads and I only have 620 for Halo 3. In fact... they unlocked as soon as I got the Marathon Man achievement... hmmm. Strange that Security would be a re-creation of the original armor in the game Marathon and Marathon Man unlocked my security pads. Hmmmm. The terminals are also from Marathon as well. That is, if I remember correctly.


Oh they've confirmed it. No worries. [[User:Xhodocto3546|Xho]]
Kitten Kickerz: Yeah...I got them and I only have 630 gamerscore... I got 3 achievements for 175 on the covenant level by beating it on normal and beating normal campaign....beating that level on above easy and by getting 50k points. and I got the security shoulders.


== Reach's Mark V Helmet (not Mark V[B]) ==
Aj M.- I have a gamer score of 660, and I both have, and don't have the shoulders. On certain days, I'll log in and find that they are unlocked, and on others, they will be unlocked. I have the Marathon Man achievement, and I got the shoulders a month later. I've heard the shoulders are unlocked after getting 39 achievements, and I have 36, so. Plus, if I'm not logged into live, the pads are locked.


Don't you guys think it's important to say when this helmet appears in the Armory (e.g. What rank you need to be before you see it)? I realize that, with such a price, you'd end up pretty high in rank anyway, but when does it appear? I'm a Seargant Grade 2, and I don't see it yet. Heck, I don't even see the Mark VI helmet yet!--[[User:Bionicleboy3000|<font color= "green">Sierra-179</font>]]<sup>[[User talk:Bionicleboy3000|<font color= "blue">"Send me out... with a chili dog!"</font>]]</sup> 03:02, September 18, 2010 (UTC)
Snipe Skill2 (Xbox Live name): I had the security shoulder blades for about a month and then in all of a sudden they dissappeared. I dont know what happened to them. Someone please help me!!!!!


Maybe no one has gotten it yet? Could require General. [[User talk:Matt 2108|Matt 2108]] 04:45, September 18, 2010 (UTC)
== Elite Commando Shoulders ==


:It appears when you hit Captain, and unlocks at Lt. Colonel. It also has a lot of chipped paint and is ugly. [[User talk:Extraxi|Extraxi]] 18:00, September 21, 2010 (UTC)
The 02/08/08 update says that Steppin’ Razor unlocks the Commando Shoulders, not Killing Frenzy like the article says. Maybe we should change the article?


== Pictures? ==
"The longstanding “Elite Commando Shoulders aren’t unlocking with the achievement” bug is being resolved in the auto update. <b>The shoulders weren’t unlocking when the Steppin’ Razor achievement was acquired.</b> In the post-auto update era, the Commando Shoulders will be unlocked for everyone, regardless of the status of the corresponding achievement." ([[User:69.47.222.91|69.47.222.91]] 20:24, 10 February 2008 (UTC))


Hey could someone post some pictures for the Halo Reach armor variants? A no is ok. [[User talk:Failamanjaro|Failamanjaro]] 01:22, September 20, 2010 (UTC)
==Scout Shoulders==


Note: i do know of the pictures at the bottom. the Misc. Armor is what im talking about. [[User talk:Failamanjaro|Failamanjaro]] 01:30, September 20, 2010 (UTC)
Whoever keeps changing mongoose mowdown to we're in for some chop, stop it. Your made of epic fail. The game guide got it wrong, Mongoose Mowdown is required. --[[User:Ajax 013|Ajax 013]] 09:46, 11 February 2008 (UTC)


== Haunted helmet? ==
Yeah, its Mongoose Mowdown Not Were in for some chop, becuase if that were true i would have full scout (i wish)


Is the haunted helmet real? I've only seen in it a video from August 24th 2010, and the person had like, WAY too many credits lol [[User talk:CrackLawliet|CrackLawliet]] 02:54, September 20, 2010 (UTC)
== Recon Armor ==


Apparently there '''is '''a haunted helmet. The guy you saw it from was a modder. But there '''is a haunted helmet'''. You have to get all the armor first then you can put it on. <small><span style="border: 1px purple; -moz-border-radius:10px">[[User:Phoenix Marathon|'''<span style="background-color:White; color:Blue; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px">&nbsp;&nbsp;SPARTAN-A110&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>''']][[User:Phoenix Marathon/Talk Archive|<span style="background-color:silver; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px">&nbsp;&nbsp;talk&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Phoenix Marathon|<span style="background-color:silver; color:white">&nbsp;&nbsp;contribs&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>]][[User:Phoenix Marathon/Guestbook|<span style="background-color:silver; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px">&nbsp;&nbsp;guestbook&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>]]</span></small>
The Recon armor is a armor only used by bungie empoyees. So pretty much bungie employees have it only and no one else can have it. Now there has been four given it anyway. The lucky people that got it was by impressing bungie or making them laugh. Thats it so far. We really dont know any other way than that if we do we will post it up right away.
Please dont complain to bungie and send them rude messages they really dont have time for that
there is a short simple answer for that if you ask "can i have the recon armor"  
there answer will be "NO" they deserve the recon armor becuase they worked hard on the
game as much as we want it they decide if we get it or not there is a 15-25% chance of getting this armor
and like we said by making bungie laugh. One of the lucky people that got was they sniped someone it hit the ground it bounced back to him and killed him and that made bungie laugh or like the cone ownage, search for them on youtube.
so if you want the recon armor or the flaming recon or any other flaming helmet make bungie laugh


Seriously? That's pretty sweet... [[User talk:CrackLawliet|CrackLawliet]] 02:59, September 20, 2010 (UTC)
I know one of the people who got Recon armor was the guy from Digital Ph33r for his Arby 'n' the Chief skits, and 2 went to the people who died in weird ways, if there is 4, who is the 4th? And is there a reliable source for who has been given the armor?


Yes, Bungie employees have it. It therefore is obtainable one way or another. EDIT: It is 1 credit, but you must have all the other helmets. [[User talk:IFallen Sith|IFallen Sith]] 22:41, September 20, 2010 (UTC)


Does that include the attatchments or just the bases? [[User talk:Failamanjaro|Failamanjaro]] 17:04, September 21, 2010 (UTC)
you can also receive recon by winning contests put on by bungie in matchmaking ~gil demoono
==Flamin (Blue) Bungie==
I've seen screenshoots of surposed "Bungie Employees" with the haunted helmet and "'''Blue Flames'''" that are similar to "'''Legendary'''". Should the Armour Effect be unofficially labeled "'''Bungie'''" and be added to the Armour Effect List? I am not sure if it is called "Bungie", however that is what the exclusive chest plate was called in Halo 3, as everyone saw on Bungie Day 2010. [[User talk:Stneojimmy|Stneojimmy]] 05:41, September 23, 2010 (UTC)
==Spartan Armour Effects = Elite Armour Effects==
I've noticed in Matchmaking Invasion that there are Flaming Heads on Elites as well. [http://halo.bungie.org/bwu/images/Reach_FF_Overlook06.jpg And on HBO Bungie exclusive flames as well.] I am not dedicated enough to get 2,000,000 cR to look like a thunder storm, I just want to know if ALL armour effects are present for Elite players when activated. [[User talk:Stneojimmy|Stneojimmy]] 06:21, September 23, 2010 (UTC)


== UA Multi threat ==
== recon armor ==
"UA Multi Threat MJOLNIR Mk. V[B] Armor available exclusively for those who pre-order Halo: Reach at a Gamestop location or Gamestop.com."
http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k215/coolest555/recon.jpg


This is inaccurate. It was not exclusive to Gamestop. [[User talk:Unreal Warfare|Unreal Warfare]] 11:20, September 25, 2010 (UTC)


When you redeem your code on Xbox live Marketplace, it confirms that it was exclusive to a GameStop pre-order. Pre-ordering anywhere else only got you Recon.[[User talk:Griffmstr835|Griffmstr835]] 17:04, September 25, 2010 (UTC)




== flaming helmet ==
http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k215/coolest555/flaminghayabusa.jpg


: I live in the UK, where there is no gamestop, I pre-ordered it and got both bonuses, Recon and UA Multi threat. [[User talk:YouPhailToAmuse|YouPhailToAmuse]] 20:33, September 25, 2010 (UTC)


==EVA (C) aka Emile´s helmet==
== flaming helmet ==
  Anyone ever think about camo in that thing, you`re getting shot at 24/7!


==About Commando Shoulders==
The article states that "due to complaints from the players about this permutation being glitched, Bungie has fixed this and after the auto-update, will automatically unlock for every player, even those who don't have the permutation unlocked."


This should be ommited for two reasons.
1. It's already stated more clearly in another part of the article
2. It was glitched for everyone, so I doubt fan complaints had anything to do with it being fixed.
And if it must stay, at least put it in the right section. It's under "Flight" armor!
[[User:71.189.22.224|71.189.22.224]] 21:13, 24 February 2008 (UTC)


at which rank do you get emiles helmet? i heard on major, but some says on a new rank, the commander rank. so when do you get it? [[User talk:Skullbreakr|Skullbreakr]] 19:04, September 26, 2010 (UTC)
:I'm currently a LTC, so I can confirm that you do not receive EVA[C] at MAJ. So far it hasn't even appeared in my armory too, so it probably will appear at a higher rank than currently available.
::-- [[User:Donut THX 1138|Donut THX 1138]] <sup><nowiki>[</nowiki>[[User talk:Donut THX 1138 |Comm]]<nowiki>]</nowiki></sup> 06:23, September 29, 2010 (UTC)
::
::I was able to get it at Commander. But it ain't worth it if you're gonna use it on Multiplayer, the skull disappears like Emile's in Co op Campaign. [[User talk:Sicarius-X|Sicarius-X]] 06:51, September 29, 2010 (UTC)


:::how did you get commander rank? i think lt.colonel is the highest? [[User talk:Rude Brute|Rude Brute]] 13:20, September 29, 2010 (UTC)
==RE: The Flaming Bungie Helmet.==
:::
I can't seem to remember where i found this out, but the bungie helmet is in fact not the helmet at all. it's an EOD body piece, but it's shown as "Bungie" in the selector, and the description is something like "Tested in the fires of a thousand battles, go forth and represent." i know that it isn't accurate, but it's along those lines. [[User:88.110.115.160|88.110.115.160]] 22:29, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
:::Commander is after Lt. Colonel [[User talk:Sicarius-X|Sicarius-X]] 13:57, September 29, 2010 (UTC)
 
:::: but i think lt.commander was the highest? and when do you get mark V shoulders, and ua chobham utility? [[User talk:Rude Brute|Rude Brute]] 14:05, September 29, 2010 (UTC)
::::
::::
:::: Uhm don't know about the shoulders but if you buy the Tactical/Hard Case, the Chobham will appear, sorry I couldn't help on the Shoulders. [[User talk:Sicarius-X|Sicarius-X]] 14:10, September 29, 2010 (UTC)
::::: and do you know when you unlock the mark VI helmet?
:::::
::::: Uhm, Colonal Rank, which I didn't see, so I guess it's in between Lt. Colonel and Commander and I missed something, either that or it's after Commander, which would be confusing. And Sorry about the no space between your comment and mine, I'm trying to get that fixed but it ain't working worth shit. [[User talk:Sicarius-X|Sicarius-X]] 14:29, September 29, 2010 (UTC)
:::::
::::: Oh, sorry, no. It's at Lt. Colonel I think, sorry. And I just leveled up to Commander Grade 3 literally seconds ago, Colonel's after commander... damn. [[User talk:Sicarius-X|Sicarius-X]] 21:35, September 29, 2010 (UTC)
:I'm curious, how have you reached CDR Gr3 already? As far as I'm aware Bungie has not increased the rank cap yet. What's your gamertag?
 
::-- [[User:Donut THX 1138|Donut THX 1138]] <sup><nowiki>[</nowiki>[[User talk:Donut THX 1138 |Comm]]<nowiki>]</nowiki></sup> 22:12, September 29, 2010 (UTC)
::
::
::No no, Rank caps don't exist offline, like I said before, never really got into playing online that much. [[User talk:Sicarius-X|Sicarius-X]] 22:18, September 29, 2010 (UTC)
::What?!?!?!? that means i can get commander rank only by playing offline? how cool...[[User talk:Rude Brute|Rude Brute]] 20:33, October 1, 2010 (UTC)
 
== GUNGNIR Helmet ==
 
The Gungnir is listed as a LTC unlockable, however upon reaching LTC it wasn't unlocked. In fact it hasn't even showed up in my Armory, anyone know why? --[[User:Donut THX 1138|Donut THX 1138]] <sup><nowiki>[</nowiki>[[User talk:Donut THX 1138 |Comm]]<nowiki>]</nowiki></sup> 17:07, September 29, 2010 (UTC)
 
:Bungie mentioned recently that more Armour components will be available in the first Title update, which is scheduled to be in October.-- '''[[User:Forerunner|<font color="blue">Fore</font>]]''[[User talk:Forerunner|<font color="green">run</font>]]''[[Special:Contributions/Forerunner|<font color="red">ner</font>]]''''' 17:13, September 29, 2010 (UTC)
 
==R attachment==
 
Apparently, according to that Armor Perm picture, the R attachment on Assault/Sapper, Collar/Breacher, and HP/Parafoil, after purchasing them, you can get what's called an R attachment, I'm guessing which causes a Prosthetic arm. EM
 
== Organization Proposal ==
 
First of all: As used in this proposal, "Variants" refers to the name of the armor variant (the leftmost column in the table on the main article), while "Accessories" refers to the individual helmet/chest/shoulder/wrist/knee pieces in the other columns.
 
I've noticed that this page, and the pages it links to, have become extremely disorganized. For example, half of the armor variants don't have their own articles, while others do. Additionally, some accessories have their own articles, instead of being integrated into a larger article for the variant that contains them.
 
I'm proposing that we combine all the constituent armor accessories for each variant into ONE article for the variant that they're in. For example, instead of having an article for Tactical/CHOBHAM, Tactical/HARD CASE, Tactical/SOFT CASE, Tactical/TRAUMA KIT, and Tactical/UGPS], these articles should be combined into a page titled MJOLNIR Powered Assault Armor/Tactical.
 
Also, all variant articles should follow this format: '''MJOLNIR Powered Assault Armor/VARIANT NAME'''. Most of the armor permutation articles already have this, but there are a few that have names like Mark V(MP) MJOLNIR Powered Assault Armor.
 
We also need to take the SPARTAN Armor template and change it so that only the variants are shown, not the individual accessories.
 
===Support===
#{{Support}} - As per above. '''<span style="font-family: Square721 BT; color: MidnightBlue;"> / / [[User:Stryker117|<font color="MidnightBlue"><small>STRYKER</small></font>]]''' &nbsp; <small><font color="SteelBlue">[ [[User talk:Stryker117|<font color="SteelBlue">COM</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Stryker117|<font color="SteelBlue">LOG/M</font>]] | [[Special:Editcount/Stryker117|<font color="SteelBlue">LOG/S</font>]] | [[User:Stryker117/Adopt-a-User|<font color="SteelBlue">AAU/HUM</font>]] ]</font></small></span> 00:59, October 4, 2010 (UTC)
#{{Support}} - Agreed. I was thinking of doing something similar but you beat me to it. The categories such as "TACTICAL", "UA" and so on aren't necessarily armor ''variants'' per se - they might just be names for categories of certain types of attachments. --[[User:Jugus|<font color="MidnightBlue"><b>Jugus</b></font>]] <small>([[User talk:Jugus|<font color="Gray">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jugus|<font color="Gray">Contribs</font>]])</small> 05:39, October 4, 2010 (UTC)
 
===Neutral===


===Oppose===


===Comments===
==New Video==
I have added a video to the article displaying all of the armour permutations  <s>but I don't think that I got the captioning right</s>. [[User:Spartan094ALEX|Spartan094ALEX]] 16:16, 27 March 2008 (UTC)


== About/Removal picture of Mark VI in Halo: Reach ==
==Easy Pictures==
Is this a glitch? Actually, I think it's from a Red Vs. Blue episode, right. If it is then it should be removed. Because remember how Rooster Teeth always comes up with those sick animations? So they probably made that but it actually isn't in the game![[User:Vegerot|<span style="color:midnightblue; font-weight:bold">Vegerot</span>]] ([[User talk:Vegerot|<span style="color:grey">talk</span>]])  18:05, 19 October 2010 (EDT)!!!!!!!!!!!!!
An easy way to get pictures of the armour permutations is by following this link and making your own custom armour. http://zaamit.com/content/h3modelgenerator.aspx it's how I made my avatar! [[User:Spartan094ALEX|Spartan094ALEX]] 16:16, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
:Uh, it ''is'' in the game. Available at the rank of Brigadier for 300,000 cR. --[[User:Jugus|<font color="MidnightBlue"><b>Jugus</b></font>]] <small>([[User talk:Jugus|<font color="Gray">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jugus|<font color="Gray">Contribs</font>]])</small> 18:18, 19 October 2010 (EDT)


== Emile's Armour ==
== Brute Armor ==


I think it's worth mentioning in the trivia here or on Emile's page that to recreate his armour in The Armory you would need 999000 Cr, because that's insanely expensive. [[User talk:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 03:56, 17 November 2010 (EST)
I think bungie should make a download or something for Brute armor. I was extremely disappointed when I realized that there is  no Brute armor.
(Canadian Chief)


It would make more sense to put that on emile's trivia. --[[User talk:Felix-119|Felix-119]] 08:34, 17 December 2010 (EST)


== add tag ==
sadly bungie announced that there will be no armor permutations DLC ~gil demoono


im not a frequent editor on here no do i possess xbox live and it pisses the hell out of me looking at these armors and such (namely EVA[C]) that i cannot be sure if i can get. i propose that
== The Arbiter's Armor ==
A)a new image be found of all offline unlockable content
B)a list be made.
i know this isn't a pressing concern for most but it gets really annoying trying to get to something i see on the armor permutation page only to later find out i need live to get it.


== armour generator ==
"Note that the Arbiter's armor cannot be unlocked, no matter how hard you may try."


does anyone know if theres a reach player generator? i tried vanity but its low quality and it broke down. ive seen some users with avatars that seem to have come from a reach player generator of some sort. Would one of these users please send me a link for the generator they used.
This line seems completely pointless, it's like pointing out that you can't play as a grunt.
[[User:72.67.28.95|72.67.28.95]] 04:52, 6 April 2008 (UTC)


Bungie.net has one, though it's broken and won't display your armour right. Vanity is the only one so fat i think.[[User talk:Datadeleter|DatrDeletr]] 10:12, 17 December 2010 (EST)
== Ideas for New Armours ==


Do you know when bungie.net's ag will be fixed? --[[User talk:Felix-119|Felix-119]] 05:12, 18 December 2010 (EST)
People have been asking for or suggesting new armours for a while. The following are merely some of my ideas for what could work.
Vanity does not work at all. and bungie's search engine is down. are there any links to any Reach armour generator. I am sure that there are some users that must have used a reach armour generater for there avatars. i know one of them is Andrew 996. if he is reading this would he please send me the link he used. --[[User talk:Felix-119|Felix-119]] 06:14, 18 December 2010 (EST)


== Split article ==
'''SPARTAN'''
''can't think of any''


I suport the idea of spliting the article. It should be split into Halo 3/O.D.S.T. and Reach. I am not much good at editing articles eccept for minor changes, so I can't do it though. --[[User:Supersniper100|Supersniper100]] ([[User talk:Supersniper100|talk]]) 21:05, 15 February 2010 (UTC)
'''Elite'''
Helmets:   No Helmet (Who wouldn't like to see an Elite's face in MP?)
          Honour Guard Helmet
          Councillor Helmet
          The Curved Helmets from Halo CE


== New Armour ==
Shoulders: Honour Guard


I'm not taking any credit for this, I just found the thread:
Body:      Honour Guard (This would give the hip blades that Honour Guards had.)


http://www.bungie.net/Forums/posts.aspx?postID=56561871
'''Brutes'''
Helmets:   Infantry (The helmets worn by Brute Minors, Majors, and Ultras.)
          Captain (The helmets worn by Brute Captains of all varieties.)
          Stalker (The helmets worn by Brute Stalkers.)
          Chieftan (The helmets worn by Brute Chieftans.)


The pic: [http://i836.photobucket.com/albums/zz289/xxoACEoxx/New_Armor.jpg]
Shoulders: Infantry
          Captain
          Stalker
          Chieftan


Watch the vid, look at the pictures, and read the main post. [[User talk:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 16:22, 28 February 2011 (EST)
Body:     Infantry
          Captain (Wearing a full set of Captain armour will add a Captain flag to       
                    your back.)
          Jump-jet
          Stalker
          Chieftan


==Armor descriptions==
'''Flood*'''
I was speaking with Sith Venator about the removal of armor descriptions from some MJOLNIR articles to avoid redundancy. I said some descriptions are only available if the armor has been unlocked (it depends on the game obviously), so it's better to keep the exact descriptions somewhere. Sometimes people can't go back to their 360 to check a description either (or they don't have the time to). So, if we are to remove the in-game descriptions, I suggest we put them on the "armor permutations" pages instead. Raw transcripts, even with the mistakes or the repetitive sentences (Halo 3...), it wouldn't matter on such a real-world page. [[User:Imrane-117|Imrane-117]] ([[User talk:Imrane-117|talk]]) 12:14, 19 February 2016 (EST)
Body:      SPARTAN (Bungie planned on making one in Halo CE, so I'm sure they could make one
                    for MP.)
          Elite
          Brute
         
*Note: The Flood permutations would have to be modified to be able to wield two weapons.  
      Decals could just appear on the shoulder regions. Also, mix-and-match would not be
      possible, at least in my opinion.


:Yeah, that sounds like the best way to go about it. I've actually been meaning to mention putting the descriptions on the permutations article, since we already have the visor color descriptions. It would be best to have it all in one place. --[[User:NightHammer|<span style="color: #2B1AAA;">'''NightHammer'''</span>]]''<sup>[[User talk:NightHammer|<span style="color: #2B1AAA;">(talk)</span>]]</sup><sup>[[Special:Contributions/NightHammer|<span style="color: #2B1AAA;">(contribs)</span>]]</sup>'' 13:26, 19 February 2016 (EST)
If any one has ideas, or suggestions, by all means, tell me. Also, if anyone could fix this up to look proper, thanks (haven't figured out how yet.).--[[User:72.141.217.254|72.141.217.254]] 19:06, 12 April 2008 (UTC)
::Yeah this sounds fine, though H4+ articles will become huge. On a side note I would really like to get the H5G permutations page to be kind of like the H4 permutations page.[[User:Sith Venator|<span style="color:green">Sith Venator</span>]] [[File:Mega Blastoise.gif|20px]] ([[User talk:Sith Venator|<span style="color:blue">Dank Memes</span>]]) 19:22, 19 February 2016 (EST)
:Two things, 1) this isn't a forum, this page is used to describe issues about the article.  Bungie.net has a topic for you to discuss your armor ideas. 2) I personally find this idea pointless anyway, Bungie has said that they cannot add any armor permutations as they didn't design the game to actually do that.  The only downloadable content would be maps. [[User:XRoadToDawnX|XRoadToDawnX]] 15:22, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

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