Editing Talk:AV-19 SkyHawk

[[Image:Skyhawk.jpg|thumb|These are NOT SkyHawks<BR><BR>Do not add this picture to the article]][[ Image:HW 1920x1200 6.jpg|thumb|These are Shortswords<BR><BR>Do not add this picture to the article]]You put 'vertical' instead of horizontal.
--[[User:EliteDeath|EliteDeath]] 20:02, 14 September 2006

:Lol never mind I just read this article in Popular Science about vertical takeoff and landing, so I'm wrong and you're right. --[[User:EliteDeath|EliteDeath]]

==Shortswords==

Hey if those things in the [[Halo Wars]] trailer are Sky Hawks why dosn't anyone take a picture of them?--[[User:Leckgolo434|prophit of war]] 22:43, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
:Oh, so those were [[Shortsword]]s!--[[User:Leckgolo434|prophit of war]] 00:19, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

== VTOL? ==

I dont recall the skyhawks being harriers.--[[User:64.121.58.43|64.121.58.43]] 09:35, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

If I recall correctly, Fall of Reach mentions them being jump jets. Harriers aren't the only planes capable of V/STOL take off/landing. Even today, we have the F35 JSF and the XF32 (which was better, but didn't get the liscense due to a grudge the Air Force had against the company).
:--[[User:Rotaretilbo|Master Gunnery Sergeant]] [[w:c:halofanon:Hank J Wimbleton IV|<span style="color:#0000CC">Hank J Wimbleton IV</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Rotaretilbo|COM]]</sup> 05:36, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

==[[Sparrowhawk]]==

Anyone explored the possibility of these being the same aircraft? I'll email Nylund, though I doubt he knows, lacking a Halo Story Bible (Ensemble Studios would know more).
:--[[User:Rotaretilbo|Master Gunnery Sergeant]] [[w:c:halofanon:Hank J Wimbleton IV|<span style="color:#0000CC">Hank J Wimbleton IV</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Rotaretilbo|COM]]</sup> 05:38, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

:No, I seriously doubt it, because the Skyhawk is supposedly capable of supersonic flight, which I seriously doubt the ducted-fans of the Sparrowhawk can pull off, being sort of an advanced assault helicopter decendant. The Skyhawk is also the name for a real vehicle (the A-4 Skyhawk jet) which further suggests this is a jet aircraft. [[User:Murder of Crows|Murder of Crows]]

== Fighters on Coldsnap? ==

Are the jets on Coldsnap (Halo CE) inspired by this aircraft? Should this be mentioned? [[User:Blast|Blast]] 09:31, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

:No, because as cool as Halo:Custom Edition maps and custom vehicles are, they're mods and we have a completely different wikia for mods. '''[[User:Specops306|<font color=purple>Specops306]]</font>''', '''''[[User talk:Specops306|<font color=blue>Kora]]</font> [[Special:Contributions/Specops306|<font color=purple>'Morhek</font>]]''''' 18:21, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

== Skyhawk Pic ==

Don't know if anyone remembers the C&C total mod called halo generals.  It was scrapped when microsoft threatened to sue them if they didnt stop making it around the time that halo wars was first announced.  Anyways, they had a render for a skyhawk, and I'll post it here to see if it is an appropriate pic for this website.

Edit:  Sorry, I'm new here, and I can't figure out how to attach my pic I uploaded it, but I cant figure it out.

:sorry, whoever you are, but it isn't. Since it was made by the fans, their version of the SkyHawk is classed as Non-Canon, and it can't be used. --'''[[UserWiki:Specops306|<font color=purple>Specops306]]</font>''', '''''[[User Talk:Specops306|<font color=blue>Kora]]</font> [[Special:Editcount/Specops306|<font color=purple>'Morhek</font>]]''''' 01:30, 7 May 2008 (UTC)


== Armament ==

I could have sworn the Skyhawk had a set of four 50mm autocannons in the book... .50 caliber machine guns would be pretty useless (they were becoming more and more inadequate by the end of WWII and were pretty much phased out in the 50-60s for 20mm autocannons)

For those of you who don't understand what "caliber" means, it's relating to the size in inches, so .50 caliber is a bullet with a diameter of 1/2", or 12.7mm, while the 50mm would be about 1.97 caliber. Big difference there. [[User:Murder of Crows|Murder of Crows]]

Like you said caliber refers to the rounds diamiter, that doesn't relate however to the length density or velocity that only means how big the bore of the gun should be not the power of the round. so even though something is only .50 caliber it can still pack a punch if the round was made out of denser materials, or was longer, or went faster. also keep in mind that the halo universe tends to use the same diamiter rounds as they did a few years in the past. I don't recall exactly what it said in the book but .50 cal. rounds wouldn't be so farfetched especially since the smaller diamiter puts the kenetic energy into a small point than 50mm. but 4 50mm would seem a little over kill especially considering that frigates and other large spacefaring craft use them as point defence turrets, so they can pack quite a punch to the somewhat large attack vessles like bording craft. also keep in mind tht 50mm is near 2 inches diamiter, that huge!!! one round can put a hell of a hurting on any kind of target in an atmosphere. that kind of fire power would be better served on something like a longsword and maybe a shortsword.[[User talk:Laghing rabt|Laghing rabt]] 18:24, October 12, 2009 (UTC)

==Halo Encyclopedia==
On page 62 of the Halo Encyclopedia, there is an image at the bottom of the page of an aircraft that looks a lot like what the SkyHawk is described as being. It's got thrusters on its underside, so its obviously VTOL-capable, and it doesn't look a whole lot like any other aircraft seen so far. It may just be concept art of another vehicle, but I thought it was worth pointing out [[User talk:SPARTAN-347|SPARTAN-347]] 18:01, 31 May 2011 (EDT)

==Halo: Fall of Reach - Invasion==
Some Halopedians have concluded that the ship that attacks John in the comic is not the proper depiction of a SkyHawk but instead of a [[AV-22 Sparrowhawk]]. However, I disagree with that because in the issue the fighter lacks the "Tail" of a Sparrowhawk and the tips of the wings are actually bent backwards and NOT forward as we would see on Sparrowhawk. [[User talk:Forgotten Helljumper|Forgotten Helljumper]] 16:55, 28 July 2012 (EDT)
:You won't be able to see the tail of a Sparrowhawk from such angle as the tail is swept down and not up. And the shadowing of the tips of the wings are stylised in such way that they are bent forward. Unless you have another image that shows otherwise...— <span style="font-size:16px; font-family:OrbitronMedium;">[[User:Subtank|<span style="color:#FF4F00;">subtank</span>]]</span>  17:18, 28 July 2012 (EDT)
[[File:Skyhawk 2..jpg|150px|thumb|right|Truster instead of a tail?]]
[[File:Skyhawk 1..jpg|150px|thumb|right|wing tips are bent backward.]]
That wasn't a very good pic. I'll upload a different one. [[User talk:Forgotten Helljumper|Forgotten Helljumper]] 17:31, 28 July 2012 (EDT)
:So, it's the tail being the problem then based on the two images. I'll double-check tomorrow and come back to this discussion to confirm. :) — <span style="font-size:16px; font-family:OrbitronMedium;">[[User:Subtank|<span style="color:#FF4F00;">subtank</span>]]</span>  17:37, 28 July 2012 (EDT)
Thank you for your time :} [[User talk:Forgotten Helljumper|Forgotten Helljumper]] 17:41, 28 July 2012 (EDT)
::Amended article. Looks like it lacks the twin tail that the Sparrowhawk has.— <span style="font-size:16px; font-family:OrbitronMedium;">[[User:Subtank|<span style="color:#FF4F00;">subtank</span>]]</span>  09:46, 29 July 2012 (EDT)