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::@Jugus: I know the artist didn't have the Halo 2 Anniversary Terminals in mind at the time, in 2006. But I'm saying it's retroactively feasible to identify Will, thanks to new information and the fact that it does not conflict with anything else. For example, at the time of Halo 2, the ''In Amber Clad'' wasn't supposed to be a ''Stalwart''-class light frigate, simply because this concept didn't exist at all (even for Bungie, I think). Now, it has been retroactively adapted to new information. [[User:Imrane-117|Imrane-117]] ([[User talk:Imrane-117|talk]]) 20:05, 14 November 2014 (EST) | ::@Jugus: I know the artist didn't have the Halo 2 Anniversary Terminals in mind at the time, in 2006. But I'm saying it's retroactively feasible to identify Will, thanks to new information and the fact that it does not conflict with anything else. For example, at the time of Halo 2, the ''In Amber Clad'' wasn't supposed to be a ''Stalwart''-class light frigate, simply because this concept didn't exist at all (even for Bungie, I think). Now, it has been retroactively adapted to new information. [[User:Imrane-117|Imrane-117]] ([[User talk:Imrane-117|talk]]) 20:05, 14 November 2014 (EST) | ||
:::I know, I'm just concerned about overriding possible author intent. Since inconsistent visual appearances are not unheard of, the Spartan on the cover might as well be a "less canon" incarnation of any of the three Mark VI-wearing Spartans, just like the differences between John-117's Mark V designs in the ''Fall of Reach'' comic adaptation, ''Halo: Reach'', ''Halo: Combat Evolved'' and ''Combat Evolved Anniversary''. They're all different and all of them are still decidedly John-117. And like I said there's two weeks between the events of the terminal and ''Ghosts of Onyx''. What if Fred's prototype Centurion armor, say, took major damage in some operation and he donned a baseline Mark VI before the mission to Havana and then Onyx? The amount of variables is just too high to make conclusive statements unless 343i confirms it. Interesting bit about the filenames though. --[[User:Jugus|<font color="MidnightBlue"><b>Jugus</b></font>]] <small>([[User talk:Jugus|<font color="Gray">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jugus|<font color="Gray">Contribs</font>]])</small> 11:12, 16 November 2014 (EST) | :::I know, I'm just concerned about overriding possible author intent. Since inconsistent visual appearances are not unheard of, the Spartan on the cover might as well be a "less canon" incarnation of any of the three Mark VI-wearing Spartans, just like the differences between John-117's Mark V designs in the ''Fall of Reach'' comic adaptation, ''Halo: Reach'', ''Halo: Combat Evolved'' and ''Combat Evolved Anniversary''. They're all different and all of them are still decidedly John-117. And like I said there's two weeks between the events of the terminal and ''Ghosts of Onyx''. What if Fred's prototype Centurion armor, say, took major damage in some operation and he donned a baseline Mark VI before the mission to Havana and then Onyx? The amount of variables is just too high to make conclusive statements unless 343i confirms it. Interesting bit about the filenames though. --[[User:Jugus|<font color="MidnightBlue"><b>Jugus</b></font>]] <small>([[User talk:Jugus|<font color="Gray">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jugus|<font color="Gray">Contribs</font>]])</small> 11:12, 16 November 2014 (EST) | ||
::::Point taken. The "many visual representations" analysis does make a lot of sense when compared with John, and I also have to agree that anything could have happened during these two weeks. Furthermore, the lack of any comment from Halsey (as Subtank said) still leaves the question open. For the filenames, I would suggest them to be put somewhere, as it's still interesting. A production note [[Armor | ::::Point taken. The "many visual representations" analysis does make a lot of sense when compared with John, and I also have to agree that anything could have happened during these two weeks. Furthermore, the lack of any comment from Halsey (as Subtank said) still leaves the question open. For the filenames, I would suggest them to be put somewhere, as it's still interesting. A production note [[Armor permutations (Halo: Reach)|here]] perhaps. [[User:Imrane-117|Imrane-117]] ([[User talk:Imrane-117|talk]]) 19:01, 16 November 2014 (EST) | ||
::First cent: Just curious, where are these from? I have a feeling that these are from ''Reach''. Regardless, I wouldn't place much faith on the filenames. They aren't the best and/or the most authoritative source. Also, Nicole-458 wears a JFO? Whoa! Second cent: if Fred and Linda were given newer armour, Halsey would have said something about the armour in the novel, just like how she commented Jorge's armour in ''Reach''. The absence of this comment would indicate that 343i is retconning their armour appearances in the Ghosts of Onyx novel. That, and Jugus comment above. Just my two cents. — <span style="font-size:14px; font-family:Arial;">[[User:Subtank|<span style="color:#FF4F00;">subtank</span>]]</span> 06:59, 15 November 2014 (EST) | ::First cent: Just curious, where are these from? I have a feeling that these are from ''Reach''. Regardless, I wouldn't place much faith on the filenames. They aren't the best and/or the most authoritative source. Also, Nicole-458 wears a JFO? Whoa! Second cent: if Fred and Linda were given newer armour, Halsey would have said something about the armour in the novel, just like how she commented Jorge's armour in ''Reach''. The absence of this comment would indicate that 343i is retconning their armour appearances in the Ghosts of Onyx novel. That, and Jugus comment above. Just my two cents. — <span style="font-size:14px; font-family:Arial;">[[User:Subtank|<span style="color:#FF4F00;">subtank</span>]]</span> 06:59, 15 November 2014 (EST) | ||
:::Yes, the above table is from Reach. Sorry, thought I'd referenced that. The Halo 4 helmets have more strange filenames, such as Optimus, Boxhead, Cyclops, Scientist, and Triclops. I wasn't saying that there's enough info on the Onyx cover art to attribute it to a character...I think that's lacking, but I thought the table above an interesting tidbit in case anyone didn't know that Bungie had done that. -[[User:ScaleMaster117|ScaleMaster117]] ([[User talk:ScaleMaster117|talk]]) 13:37, 15 November 2014 (EST) | :::Yes, the above table is from Reach. Sorry, thought I'd referenced that. The Halo 4 helmets have more strange filenames, such as Optimus, Boxhead, Cyclops, Scientist, and Triclops. I wasn't saying that there's enough info on the Onyx cover art to attribute it to a character...I think that's lacking, but I thought the table above an interesting tidbit in case anyone didn't know that Bungie had done that. -[[User:ScaleMaster117|ScaleMaster117]] ([[User talk:ScaleMaster117|talk]]) 13:37, 15 November 2014 (EST) |