Talk:SPARTAN-III program: Difference between revisions

==Spartan III==

* yes -- [[User:Varicen|Varicen]] 03:43, 19 November 2006) (edit)

Where did that picture come from?--[[User:Leckgolo434|prophit of war]] 15:34, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

==Alpha Company==

I am pretty sure all three classes were augmented. The augmenting was changed for Gamma though. As for the Jericho VII orphans, I can't find any references linking Alpha with Jericho VII. While I don't doubt some of the orphans may have come there, it is entirely possible that they were orphaned by fathers or mothers dying in combat and then the other parent dying on the planet in an accident of sorts. Nylund doesn't appear to be suggesting Jericho VII was glassed prior to 2531.

Where did the pic of Alpha company and Mendez come from???(NoobSlayer757 01:46, May 11, 2010 (UTC))

What do you mean? Look at the article and it will make sense of what am I asking!--[[User:Master Chief Petty Officer|Master Chief Petty Officer]] 12:21, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

Oh, thanks, but it seems that the Spartan IIs are greater then the Spartan IIIs!--[[User:Master Chief Petty Officer|Master Chief Petty Officer]] 01:50, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

Evidence of this exciste. The new Gamepro (July) has Spartans with SPI, in which Halo 2 they brought the Elites as a skin becasue they were a big foucus of the Campagin. So mabey the mystrey Spartan armor and SPI are possibley going to be in the Campagin. Which means SPARTAN IIIs and more SPARTAN IIs![[User:Darth Gree|'''<font color="olive">Spartans</font>''']] [[User Talk:Darth Gree|'''<font color="brown">With</font>''']] [[Special:Contributions/Darth Gree|'''<font color="purple">SPI ROCK</font>''']]

ok so like, there are still spartan II's right? so like why didnt they use them in halo 3? that would have made the game like sicker than f**king jesus christ.

I don't remember anything about Delta Company, no. I remember a Spartan Team Omega, or something along those lines, but that's Halo Wars, which takes place prior to Halo CE. As far as SPARTAN-IIs go, there are only six that could seriously be predicted to make an appearance in Halo 3: Randall, the three SPARTAN-IIs of Gray Team, Maria-052, and John-117 (our main character). While Bungie gives reasons for John being the only SPARTAN-II in the games (as the others are off fighting in different locations), it also adds to the player experience. If all the UNSC characters were SPARTAN-IIs in Halo CE or Halo 2, it would make the player feel less needed. Even by adding a couple other SPARTAN-IIs, the player might feel less unique or heroic. However, SPARTAN-IIIs are not necessarily as good as SPARTAN-IIs, and we should consider the fact that there are 315 Gamma SPARTAN-IIIs unaccounted for as per ''Ghosts of Onyx''. I do hope they make an appearance, if not as a playable story line, then as allies, in Halo 3.

== This is just a speculation but... ==

Yeah, i agree, and they were trained BEFORE the human-covie war started they dont take kids and go like "ok u 2 kids go defend this place,u 3 defend here, ect." they were already teenagers i think when they got the Mark IV armor. (first MJOLNIR)[[User talk:SPARTAN-III leader|SPARTAN-III leader]] 17:31, March 27, 2010 (UTC)

They began training between the ages of four and five. They were likely shipped out at the age of twelve to fourteen.

This is confusing. Does augmentation help the children to develop into adults at an increased rate or something? Teenagers and kids fighting aliens is kind of hard to grasp.[[User talk:Fire Eater|Fire Eater]] 06:23, 15 March 2009 (UTC)

Well, it looks like all those pictures we thought were SPARTAN-IIIs were really SPARTAN-IIs in their new EVA armor. Too bad. I still hope the SPARTAN-IIIs make it into the game.

I still think they may. Who is going to wear the other armor in the campaign? [[Maria-062]]? I'm pretty sure she's the only Spartan-II, other than John, that is avaliable. Meaning: Perhaps the Battle of Onyx convinced ONI to not throw away its last Spartan-IIIs and equipped them with MJOLNIR armor. --<b>[[User:ED|<font color="000000">ED</font>]]_{([[User talk:ED|<font color="000000">talk</font>]])}^{[http://halopedian.com/User:ED/Gaming<font color="000000">(gaming)]</font>}</b> 04:12, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

what is the spartan 3 armour called? i know in the books it says its semi powered infiltration armout but in halo 3 it is called E.V.A. whats up wit that?

O OK i get it... well where do the other armours come from and what is the mark V? is it better than mark IV??? and the ninja armour? where did that come from?

==Delta Company==

==MIA-KIA==

:Their very existence as SPARTANs was hidden, so classing them as MIA rather than KIA is unnecessary. Only the last few were counted as MIA by Kurt, who felt that they deserved it. And remember, most of those kids would have been thought of as deceased quite a while ago anyway, due to no information on their continuing existence being known. In summary: All are KIA apart from those Kurt listed as MIA, who were also KIA. --'''[[User:Forerunner|<font color="blue">Fore</font>]]''[[User talk:Forerunner|<font color="green">run</font>]]''[[Special:Contributions/Forerunner|<font color="red">ner</font>]]''' 15:57, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

Uploaded a higher res version, so it is less pixelated. [[User:Diaboy|Diaboy]] 15:48, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

== Similarities and suggestions ==

:The armor on the cover is in fact SPI armor. While the armor doesn't truly correspond with the story, they are still Kelly, Kurt, and a S-III.[[User talk:XRoadToDawnX|XRoadToDawnX]] 04:47, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

Also, I have 2 sayin Reach, it looks like u have a version of MJOLNIR armor instead of SPI. (just  a thought)[[User talk:SPARTAN-III leader|SPARTAN-III leader]] 17:36, March 27, 2010 (UTC)

I saw that the sentence ''"Had become the stuff of legend."'' was improper, so I changed it to ''"Had become the '''words''' of legend."''. It was changed back and I am slightly annoyed at this.  

Any alternatives?

== ODST/shitty luck ==

:Wait, I thought all the Spartan-III's died... WIth the two exceptions, of course. What happened? --[[User talk:Sangheili Commando 021: Fluffball Gato|Fluffball Gato]] 00:42, January 12, 2010 (UTC)

They'll come with something, like "on a seperate mission" or "escaped a different way". Either way I am excited. --[[User talk:Sgt.T.N.Biscuits|Sgt.T.N.Biscuits]] 01:19, January 12, 2010 (UTC)

I thought SPARTAN-III's had to wear SPI armor because it was cheaper than MJOLNIR, sure they were about equal in speed and strength (not reflexes however), but with this on they're basically SPARTAN-II's, where's the fun in that? - [[User talk:Kluutak|Kluutak]] 22:16, January 13, 2010 (UTC)

:You seen the leaked pics? There's a shield meter. Unless SPI was refitted to have shields, I suppose that's pretty much Mk V. [[User:PX173|'''''PX''''']][[User_talk:PX173|''1'']]''7''[[Special:Contributions/PX173|''3'']] 12:42, January 26, 2010 (UTC)

::That was because it was a Mk VI prototype. So it pretty much still falls under Mk VI. Late reply, no? [[User:PX173|'''''PX''''']][[User_talk:PX173|''1'']]''7''[[Special:Contributions/PX173|''3'']] 12:32, February 6, 2010 (UTC)

There may even be a few more Spartans that Kurt and Mendez were able to sneak out of the program.

Your argument is one that I have been pondering over for the past few months as well.  I really wish the authors of the novels, the Halo Legends producer, Halo Wars, and Bungie could of gotten on the same page, so there wouln't be any of this mess.  I mean it doesn't just stop with the Spatan III's, look at the Spartan II's, there's only 33, right?  But there are more than 33 named Spartan II's between all the books, Halo Wars, and in Halo Legends- google Spartan II in Halopedia.  It's like they're just making up stuff now, to keep it going.  I wouldn't be suprised that in the future, there will be even more discrepencies.  I love Halo, I just wish the authors would of left some breathing room in the Spartan story lines, so there could be future work with the franchise.

::I think the problem's you've found with the S-III character models were probably just gameplay modifications on Bungie's part, and in-universe a result of using the Mark V. For one thing, Bungie have already responded to complaints, increasing run speed and jump height because of player concerns. For another, remember that we've been playing as Spartans in the Mark VI suit for so long that we've forgotten what it was like to be in its predecessor. Canonically,t here's no reason why the S-III's should be slower, weaker, less skilled etc. than the S-II's other than experience, which Noble Team has in buckets. Most may have been smaller, because of the inferior genetic parameters, but augmentation reduces them to a level playing field.

== Better or Worse ==

In the absence of an official explanation, I'm thinking we should at least put up notes explaining this curiosity in the "size" fields of Alpha and Beta companies' infoboxes. --[[User:Jugus|<font color="MidnightBlue"><b>Jugus</b></font>]] <small>([[User talk:Jugus|<font color="Gray">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jugus|<font color="Gray">Contribs</font>]])</small> 01:32, 23 February 2015 (EST)

==Fleet Battles==

Concerning the ''Fleet Battles'' stats table on the page: does ''Fleet Battles'' specifically mention that the Spartans in the game are Spartan-IIIs? Superficially it just looks as though they're "Spartans" in a general sense, which could mean either IIs or IIIs especially given the canonically malleable setting of ''Fleet Battles'' (as an in-universe simulation). In case there's no specific mention of them being IIIs, the [[SPARTAN programs]] page would probably be a more suitable place for the section. On that matter: I've been wondering if it would be better if the "SPARTAN programs" page were renamed just "[[Spartan]]" and slightly re-focused on the soldiers themselves. We could keep the page's existing content virtually unchanged but I believe the title would simply be more encompassing for topics that concern Spartans in a general sense but are not tied to the Spartan branch either. --[[User:Jugus|<font color="MidnightBlue"><b>Jugus</b></font>]] <small>([[User talk:Jugus|<font color="Gray">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jugus|<font color="Gray">Contribs</font>]])</small> 00:06, 24 February 2016 (EST)