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I really like to know,thank you for reading;answering.--[[User talk:SPARTAN-124|SPARTAN-124]] 04:11, 25 February 2009 (UTC)SPARTAN-124 | I really like to know,thank you for reading;answering.--[[User talk:SPARTAN-124|SPARTAN-124]] 04:11, 25 February 2009 (UTC)SPARTAN-124 | ||
: Yes, but not one that contains an AI; only Mark V and VI MJOLNIR armor have the mesh layer that can support an onboard AI. The crystal data chips the ODSTs use are only data chips that upload information into their helmet. The same goes for the standard Marine BDU; the helmet can accept a data chip with a small amount of information; for example, Marines and ODSTs can upload a map, like in ''ODST'', where the helmet could even download the map to the chip wirelessly. | : Yes, but not one that contains an AI; only Mark V and VI MJOLNIR armor have the mesh layer that can support an onboard AI. The crystal data chips the ODSTs use are only data chips that upload information into their helmet. The same goes for the standard Marine BDU; the helmet can accept a data chip with a small amount of information; for example, Marines and ODSTs can upload a map, like in ''ODST'', where the helmet could even download the map to the chip wirelessly. COD}} | ||
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No,the spartans did not wear ODST battle armor on their first mission. it was a real tight black suit that would help them stay out of sight.-- | No,the spartans did not wear ODST battle armor on their first mission. it was a real tight black suit that would help them stay out of sight.-- | ||
Like a sneaking suit. No wonder they could seem normal despite being so tall, the sneaking suit means enemies can only see you if you're 15 fwwt in front of them. --[[User:Delta1138|Delta1138]] [[User_talk:Delta1138|SnooPING AS usual I see]] 16:06, 25 March 2011 (EDT) | |||
==Split this article== | ==Split this article== | ||
The discriptions of this page come from the black body suit, which is what the suits that the Spartans used in the rebel mission. The black body suits definetly arn't the ones that the ODSTs use in the present Halo Universe. If they could only deflect a small caliber round, then they'd get killed by the Covenant in one hit, but they don't: The ones the ODSTs use in the present Halo Universe are '''way''' more advanced. There is no conformation that the black body suit and the ODST armor is related. Another article should be created. --[[User:Uneven elephant|Uneven elephant]] 20:23, 29 May 2007 (UTC) | The discriptions of this page come from the black body suit, which is what the suits that the Spartans used in the rebel mission. The black body suits definetly arn't the ones that the ODSTs use in the present Halo Universe. If they could only deflect a small caliber round, then they'd get killed by the Covenant in one hit, but they don't: The ones the ODSTs use in the present Halo Universe are '''way''' more advanced. There is no conformation that the black body suit and the ODST armor is related. Another article should be created. --[[User:Uneven elephant|Uneven elephant]] 20:23, 29 May 2007 (UTC) | ||
:ODST's however, wear full body armor and combat equipment over their body suits, while Spartans wore just the suits for stealth purposes. If there is overwhelming support for the split though, the redirect can be undone. --<b>[[User:ED|<font color="000000">ED</font>]]<sub>([[User talk:ED|<font color="000000">talk</font>]])</sub><sup>[http:// | :ODST's however, wear full body armor and combat equipment over their body suits, while Spartans wore just the suits for stealth purposes. If there is overwhelming support for the split though, the redirect can be undone. --<b>[[User:ED|<font color="000000">ED</font>]]<sub>([[User talk:ED|<font color="000000">talk</font>]])</sub><sup>[http://halopedian.com/User:ED/Gaming<font color="000000">(gaming)]</font></sup></b> 00:42, 9 June 2007 (UTC) | ||
::What? ''Full'' body armor ''and'' body suits? Whats the difference? The Spartans wore the body armor because there was too many places in the op with nothing to breath but vacuum, and they only wore them for that op, because of all the disadvantages, they were obsolete in ''2525'', the ODSTs use their ''armor'' in 2552'', so why would ODSTs even ''wear'' them? --[[User:Uneven elephant|Uneven elephant]] 01:06, 9 June 2007 (UTC) | ::What? ''Full'' body armor ''and'' body suits? Whats the difference? The Spartans wore the body armor because there was too many places in the op with nothing to breath but vacuum, and they only wore them for that op, because of all the disadvantages, they were obsolete in ''2525'', the ODSTs use their ''armor'' in 2552'', so why would ODSTs even ''wear'' them? --[[User:Uneven elephant|Uneven elephant]] 01:06, 9 June 2007 (UTC) | ||
:::I'm sorry your probably getting tired of this by now, but I think we are on two different pages, we need to straighten this out or something. --[[User:Uneven elephant|Uneven elephant]] 00:57, 12 June 2007 (UTC) | :::I'm sorry your probably getting tired of this by now, but I think we are on two different pages, we need to straighten this out or something. --[[User:Uneven elephant|Uneven elephant]] 00:57, 12 June 2007 (UTC) | ||
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This also debunks all claims about the ODST Battle Armor being airtight or vacuum-enabled, as it was all only based off the assumption that it was the same suit as in FoR. There hasn't been any mention of that elsewhere, or if there has, i've missed it. So, the "problem" about the exposed necks and fingers of the ODSTs has been solved.--[[User talk:Jugus|Jugus]] 10:54, September 6, 2009 (UTC) | This also debunks all claims about the ODST Battle Armor being airtight or vacuum-enabled, as it was all only based off the assumption that it was the same suit as in FoR. There hasn't been any mention of that elsewhere, or if there has, i've missed it. So, the "problem" about the exposed necks and fingers of the ODSTs has been solved.--[[User talk:Jugus|Jugus]] 10:54, September 6, 2009 (UTC) | ||
:I agree with all of this. However, I believe in the books it is stated that there is airtight underlay available that makes ODSTs operable in vacuum. | :I agree with all of this. However, I believe in the books it is stated that there is airtight underlay available that makes ODSTs operable in vacuum. COD}} | ||
::True; The post was made back when the article was called "Body Suit" and I hadn't read The Cole Protocol where the armor's vacuum properties are explained. As a side note, I'm not sure if having "ballistic" in the article title is necessary. Most human armors in the Halo universe are ballistic in a sense, and in the context of the quote from The Flood, where the "ballistic" in the title comes from, the term is clearly used to describe a general property of the armor, not the suit's name. --[[User:Jugus|<font color="MidnightBlue"><b>Jugus</b></font>]] ([[User talk:Jugus|<font color="Gray">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jugus|<font color="Gray">Contribs</font>]]) 17:29, May 24, 2010 (UTC) | ::True; The post was made back when the article was called "Body Suit" and I hadn't read The Cole Protocol where the armor's vacuum properties are explained. As a side note, I'm not sure if having "ballistic" in the article title is necessary. Most human armors in the Halo universe are ballistic in a sense, and in the context of the quote from The Flood, where the "ballistic" in the title comes from, the term is clearly used to describe a general property of the armor, not the suit's name. --[[User:Jugus|<font color="MidnightBlue"><b>Jugus</b></font>]] ([[User talk:Jugus|<font color="Gray">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jugus|<font color="Gray">Contribs</font>]]) 17:29, May 24, 2010 (UTC) | ||
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:It's assumed that only ONI utilizes it, but I don't believe [[Frost]] used the Recon variant. I haven't read Helljumpers, but the image in the gallery shows her wearing a normal ODST BDU. --[[User talk:TDSpiral94|TDSpiral94]] 04:13, October 18, 2009 (UTC) | :It's assumed that only ONI utilizes it, but I don't believe [[Frost]] used the Recon variant. I haven't read Helljumpers, but the image in the gallery shows her wearing a normal ODST BDU. --[[User talk:TDSpiral94|TDSpiral94]] 04:13, October 18, 2009 (UTC) | ||
:[[Veronica Dare]] is the only ONI ODST that I know of; she's also the only one I know of who wears the Recon helmet. | :[[Veronica Dare]] is the only ONI ODST that I know of; she's also the only one I know of who wears the Recon helmet. COD}} | ||
== Wrist-Device in The Babysitter == | == Wrist-Device in The Babysitter == | ||
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:Go check the [[Talk:Orbital Drop Shock Trooper|ODST Talk Page]]. Read it. You'll understand why then. If you don't... well, that's on you. <b>[[User:Smoke.|<span style="color:#770000; font-weight:bold; font-family:Tahoma Small Cap">Smoke</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Smoke.|<span style="color:#770000; font-weight:bold; font-family:Tahoma Small Cap">Sound off!</span>]]</sup></b> 01:27, December 24, 2009 (UTC) | :Go check the [[Talk:Orbital Drop Shock Trooper|ODST Talk Page]]. Read it. You'll understand why then. If you don't... well, that's on you. <b>[[User:Smoke.|<span style="color:#770000; font-weight:bold; font-family:Tahoma Small Cap">Smoke</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Smoke.|<span style="color:#770000; font-weight:bold; font-family:Tahoma Small Cap">Sound off!</span>]]</sup></b> 01:27, December 24, 2009 (UTC) | ||
== Helmet Visor?? == | == Helmet Visor?? == | ||
Isn't the helmet visor has a blue hue?, sorry if bad english | |||
[[User:Rodri8032|-Rodri8032]] 21:02, March 22, 2011 (UTC) | |||
Hey guys, I'm not really sure if this has already been brought up but it's been on my mind for some time now. You know in Halo 3: ODST, how the visors (their face) of the odsts in the cutscenes seem to go from being see through to being black again? (Not talking about visor mode, I'm talking about the actual "face" of the helmet) How do they do that? Is it part of their neural interface or something, so when they think about it the visor changes? | Hey guys, I'm not really sure if this has already been brought up but it's been on my mind for some time now. You know in Halo 3: ODST, how the visors (their face) of the odsts in the cutscenes seem to go from being see through to being black again? (Not talking about visor mode, I'm talking about the actual "face" of the helmet) How do they do that? Is it part of their neural interface or something, so when they think about it the visor changes? | ||
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Why is there a picture in the gallery of the Rookie's crotch? | Why is there a picture in the gallery of the Rookie's crotch? | ||
::its not a picture of his crotch its just the gallery size isn't correct. It's something someone with better knowledge of the new gallery system is going to have to fix. [[User talk:Durandal-217|Durandal-217]] 02:12, August 2, 2010 (UTC) | |||
==Move to "ODST armor"== | |||
I know it was I who moved this to the current title back in the day, but I think the title could do well without the "battle" part, mainly for two reasons. First, the title is merely a description, as there is no official name given for the armor. Second, having "battle" there is simply unnecessary. It's not like the ODSTs use body armor ''not'' intended for battle purposes. --[[User:Jugus|<font color="MidnightBlue"><b>Jugus</b></font>]] <small>([[User talk:Jugus|<font color="Gray">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jugus|<font color="Gray">Contribs</font>]])</small> 08:56, 23 March 2011 (EDT) | |||
:I'll second that, same reasons. [[User talk:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 03:05, 24 March 2011 (EDT) | |||
::{{Support}} - Per Jugus and Alex T Snow. --[[User talk:Braidenvl|"Government big enough to supply everything you need is big enough to take everything you have." -Thomas Jefferson]] 11:55, 14 April 2011 (EDT) | |||
== Year of introduction == | |||
Do we have any idea of what year this armor was introduced? I'm pretty sure they've never said the exact year itself but do we have a rough idea? I'm fairly sure it was sometime before the Mark IV but how long before?--[[Special:Contributions/210.56.91.215|210.56.91.215]] 06:45, 9 August 2011 (EDT) | |||
:The helmet has been around since at least 2517, as seen in ''Fall of Reach - Boot Camp''. The BDU has been around since at least 2531, but it was probably introduced earlier. --[[User talk:Braidenvl|Courage never dies.]] 10:08, 9 August 2011 (EDT) | |||
==Better Picture Maybe?== | |||
Could someone do a transparent cutout render of the ODST BDU armor from ''Halo: Reach'' for this article, maybe as the new introductory image, or put in the Gallery section of the article as some kind of reference and/or comparison? I'm presently working on it in my spare time when I have the chance and the time to do it, but if someone else could get on it would be great too, not to mention that someone might be able to do a better job than I can do. [[User talk:Xamikaze330|Xamikaze330]] 17:36, 6 October 2011 (EDT)Xamikaze330 | |||
:Somewhat related question: How does one go about making those cutout renders with a perfect white background? [[User talk:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 18:19, 6 October 2011 (EDT) | |||
::Not sure what you're trying to ask, but will try to answer as best as I can: an image to manipulate, Adobe Photoshop CS5, in Photoshop begin with either a white background (save as JPEG), or a transparent background (save as PNG or GIF; preferably PNG), go back to screenshot and select the person or object in question using Quick Selection tool, then copy and paste into new document with white background or transparent canvas, save as JPG, PNG, or GIF. Everyone here has been doing it! [[User talk:Xamikaze330|Xamikaze330]] 18:40, 6 October 2011 (EDT)Xamikaze330 | |||
:::Okay cool! I don't have Photoshop, but I have used it and know what you're talking about, thanks :) [[User talk:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 19:03, 6 October 2011 (EDT) | |||
::::I'll get on taking the picture. I'll use the scene where the ODST is saluting Noble Six. I could take two at the same position, except one's taking the bottom half, the other the top, then fit them together so the picture's bigger. I've done that before with cartoons when you've got that panning up shot.[[User:Fairfieldfencer|<font color="#FF2400">Fair</font><font color="#FFA500">field</font><font color="#FF2400">fencer</font>]] [[User talk:Fairfieldfencer|<font color="FF2400">F</font><font color="#FFA500">F</font><font color="#FF2400">F</font>]] 05:20, 7 October 2011 (EDT) | |||
:::::Damn camera's too fidgetty to do it right. But here are four fully body screenshots I took of them. [http://www.bungie.net/Stats/Reach/FileDetails.aspx?fid=24065347&player=Fairfieldfencer] [http://www.bungie.net/Stats/Reach/FileDetails.aspx?fid=24065353&player=Fairfieldfencer] [http://www.bungie.net/Stats/Reach/FileDetails.aspx?fid=24065349&player=Fairfieldfencer] [http://www.bungie.net/Stats/Reach/FileDetails.aspx?fid=24065350&player=Fairfieldfencer] Two without him saluting in different zooms and two with him saluting in different zooms. I gave him a Magnum so had the smallest weapon I could possibly find and a weird glitch happened where the Magnum is floating next to his hand, so we have a weaponless ODST.[[User:Fairfieldfencer|<font color="#FF2400">Fair</font><font color="#FFA500">field</font><font color="#FF2400">fencer</font>]] [[User talk:Fairfieldfencer|<font color="FF2400">F</font><font color="#FFA500">F</font><font color="#FF2400">F</font>]] 06:35, 7 October 2011 (EDT) | |||
::::::Thank you very much. One of these should do nicely. Gotta go--work to be done. [[User talk:Xamikaze330|Xamikaze330]] 14:40, 7 October 2011 (EDT)Xamikaze330 | |||
== Regarding the "Unidentified variant" seen in Helljumper == | |||
I think this "unidentified variant" is the result of artistic liberty taken by the artist, like all other designs in comics, and not intended to create a new variant. Also, that paragraph seems to take [[:File:Gretchen fight.png|this flashback]] a bit out of context: if one were to inspect the next frame below that flashback, the ODST armor worn by the three characters is more along the lines of the standard ODST armor. I don't see any mix with the Marine BDU in any of the frames. I suggest removing the entire subsection.— <span style="font-size:14px; font-family:Arial;">[[User:Subtank|<span style="color:#FF4F00;">subtank</span>]]</span> 06:19, 8 July 2013 (EDT) | |||
== ODST-Recon Variant == | |||
Though it isn't functionally exact, you can recreate the ODST variant in Halo 4 by (obviously) using Recon helmet, GEN2 Soldier pauldrons and preferably the Midnight visor. It doesn't take over much of the basic ODST Battle Armor. --[[User:SpartanS36|SpartanS36]] ([[User talk:SpartanS36|talk]]) 17:43, 4 September 2013 (EDT) | |||
:Yeah... or you could download the [[Champions Bundle]] (or just the [[Champions Bundle#Infinity Armor Pack|Infinity Armor Pack]]) and get the '''''real''''' ODST armor.--[[File:Emblem 1.jpg|20px|bottom]][[User:Rusty-112|<span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:13pt;color:blue;">''' Rusty'''</span><span style="font-size:13pt;color:red;">'''-'''</span><span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:13pt;color:blue;">'''112'''</span>]] [[Halopedia:Administrators|<span style="color:red; font-family:Arial">'''''Admin'''''</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Rusty-112|<font color="blue">'''comm'''</font>]]</sup> 18:07, 4 September 2013 (EDT) | |||
::"Yeah" or you could realize I'm talking about a customization and not about recreating the baseline ODST. [[User:SpartanS36|SpartanS36]] ([[User talk:SpartanS36|talk]]) 16:31, 20 March 2014 (EDT) | |||
== Current Armor? == | |||
So, I'm confused on what the ODST armor would look like Post-War. I'm lead to believe that, because of the Mjolnir ODST variants, they would use a Halo 3-Halo 3: ODST style armor. However, there was the ODST in Escalation that wore Halo 2 style armor. Is there any way of knowing which armor they use? | |||
--Look at the image we got during Hunt the Truth -Japeth555 | |||
:Given that the Void Dancer armour was designed as a future ODST armour, not to mention the updated ODST, Nightfall and Helljumper suits, future ODSTs may very well be indistinguishable, visually, from Spartans. Maybe not as tall, but equipped with the same or similar gear, which I thoroughly approve of. As for the current in-universe look, I'd say some units have different BDUs because of supply and maintenance limitations. -- [[User:Morhek|<b><font color=indigo>Qura 'Morhek</font></b>]] [[halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>The Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>of Morheka</sup></font></i></u>]] 02:38, 7 March 2016 (EST) | |||
Alright. Seems reasonable. Thanks. | |||
== the Halo 2/Halo 2 Anniversary variant == | |||
Since the light type of armor seen in Halo 2 has been show too in Halo 2 Anniversary (has a slightly different variant, possible a non pressurized model) Hunt The Truth and in Escalation, is clear that it is still canon, shouldn't it be in the variants section too? --[[User:Zen-158|Zen-158]] ([[User talk:Zen-158|talk]]) 13:12, 16 May 2016 (EDT) | |||