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::::::The difference there is that the Headhunters operated in two-man teams by default. You'd only need a designated "leader" in larger units. It could be argued that Emile was only the team's de facto commanding officer, I suppose.-- '''[[User:Forerunner|<font color="blue">Fore</font>]]''[[User talk:Forerunner|<font color="green">run</font>]]''[[Special:Contributions/Forerunner|<font color="red">ner</font>]]''''' 13:54, 22 July 2011 (EDT)
::::::The difference there is that the Headhunters operated in two-man teams by default. You'd only need a designated "leader" in larger units. It could be argued that Emile was only the team's de facto commanding officer, I suppose.-- '''[[User:Forerunner|<font color="blue">Fore</font>]]''[[User talk:Forerunner|<font color="green">run</font>]]''[[Special:Contributions/Forerunner|<font color="red">ner</font>]]''''' 13:54, 22 July 2011 (EDT)
:::::::It could be argued, though you'd be wrong. "Commanding Officer" refers to the senior member of a unit in rank, not who has the most seniority with time-in for a particular unit. If that was the case, even the most junior enlisted personnel would be more senior to a "butterball" Lieutenant and you'd see companies and battalions led by First Sergeants and Sergeants Major, respectively. Like I said before, designations within a unit have NOTHING to do with it; which is why Jorge, a Chief Warrant Officer (unknown grade), was Noble Four, though was more senior to WO Jun and WO Emile (Nobles Three and Four, respectively) in both rank and time-in NAVSPECWAR. '''''VERY FRAKKIN' RARELY''''' does time-in unit have any bearing on the succession of unit leaders, i.e. when a MCPO (highest Navy enlisted rank) took over for a LT (third lowest Navy officer rank) in a tactical leadership fashion while the officer still had operational and administrative command. Similar to what Halofan1234 said, Spartans in a small unit wouldn't need a team leader as it is, sure, they may order them around in the sense that you need to do something, but there's no real chain of command with two guys; not to mention the close-knit of Spartan teams. Now, you don't see Battalion Sergeant Majors assuming command of the formation if their Lieutenant Colonel or Major commanding officer falls in battle do you? Nope, that would go to the executive officer, then any staff officers, then to company commanders, then to platoon commanders, and if they fall...there's nothing really making that a proper formation. {{User:CommanderTony/Sig}}
:::::::It could be argued, though you'd be wrong. "Commanding Officer" refers to the senior member of a unit in rank, not who has the most seniority with time-in for a particular unit. If that was the case, even the most junior enlisted personnel would be more senior to a "butterball" Lieutenant and you'd see companies and battalions led by First Sergeants and Sergeants Major, respectively. Like I said before, designations within a unit have NOTHING to do with it; which is why Jorge, a Chief Warrant Officer (unknown grade), was Noble Four, though was more senior to WO Jun and WO Emile (Nobles Three and Four, respectively) in both rank and time-in NAVSPECWAR. '''''VERY FRAKKIN' RARELY''''' does time-in unit have any bearing on the succession of unit leaders, i.e. when a MCPO (highest Navy enlisted rank) took over for a LT (third lowest Navy officer rank) in a tactical leadership fashion while the officer still had operational and administrative command. Similar to what Halofan1234 said, Spartans in a small unit wouldn't need a team leader as it is, sure, they may order them around in the sense that you need to do something, but there's no real chain of command with two guys; not to mention the close-knit of Spartan teams. Now, you don't see Battalion Sergeant Majors assuming command of the formation if their Lieutenant Colonel or Major commanding officer falls in battle do you? Nope, that would go to the executive officer, then any staff officers, then to company commanders, then to platoon commanders, and if they fall...there's nothing really making that a proper formation. {{User:CommanderTony/Sig}}
:Points taken and I rest my case, I am wrong. But, what is Noble 6's reason for being listed as a leader? Is it that he outranked Emile, or Lead the Marines (I'm pretty sure they were under Keyes' command, but he could of lead ARMY troopers), or the fact he was last left? <font color="black">Something<b>Different</b></font> 20:04, 22 July 2011 (EDT)