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==Covenant remnant's involvement== | ==Covenant remnant's involvement== | ||
Issue #3 has the unidentified human mentioning that 'Gajat is moonlighting, and inquired about [[Jul 'Mdama]] finding out. Also Scruggs denies being a member of the Insurrection, claiming to be something else. To me this sounds like a contract being taken by Covenant/Human mercenaries, not an official involvement by the remnant. Maybe that faction in the infobox should be changed to reflect that. | Issue #3 has the unidentified human mentioning that 'Gajat is moonlighting, and inquired about [[Jul 'Mdama]] finding out. Also Scruggs denies being a member of the Insurrection, claiming to be something else. To me this sounds like a contract being taken by Covenant/Human mercenaries, not an official involvement by the remnant. Maybe that faction in the infobox should be changed to reflect that. [[User:Spartansniper450/IRC Quotes|<span style="color:#000000">''Col.''</span>]] [[User:Spartansniper450|<span style="color:#00416A">Snipes</span>]][[User talk:Spartansniper450|<span style="color:gold">4</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Spartansniper450|<span style="color:silver">50</span>]] 12:05, 27 February 2014 (EST) | ||
:I don't see why not. We may still see the offical covenant remnant show up in a later issue but who knows. Also I'm starting to think this mysterious group is non other than the [[Servants of Abiding Truth]] led by [[Avu Med 'Telcam]]. Just being hypothetical.--'''''[[User:Killamint|<span style="color:Black; font-family: Arial;">Killamint</span>]]''''' <small>['''''[[User talk:Killamint|<font color="Red">Comm</font>]]'''''|'''''[[Special:Contributions/Killamint|<font color="Black">Files</font>]]''''']</small> 12:32, 27 February 2014 (EST) | :I don't see why not. We may still see the offical covenant remnant show up in a later issue but who knows. Also I'm starting to think this mysterious group is non other than the [[Servants of Abiding Truth]] led by [[Avu Med 'Telcam]]. Just being hypothetical.--'''''[[User:Killamint|<span style="color:Black; font-family: Arial;">Killamint</span>]]''''' <small>['''''[[User talk:Killamint|<font color="Red">Comm</font>]]'''''|'''''[[Special:Contributions/Killamint|<font color="Black">Files</font>]]''''']</small> 12:32, 27 February 2014 (EST) | ||
::I can't actually say with any certainty, since I have so far not read much beyond previews, but I have a vague suspicion that this is going to tie into 343i turning ONI into Cerberus - a renegade, well-funded and anti-alien paramilitary organisation that declares itself humanity's benefactor, while using extreme and unethical means behind the UNSC's back. You have ONI funding the decidedly anti-human Servants of Abiding Truth, without which the Covenant remnant probably wouldn't exist, going behind Hood's back to derail his own objectives; the transition from Parangosky to Osman to maintain a degree of philosophic continuity; Osman's decision to assassinate Halsey; and now a second Spartan going rogue, who this time, unlike Ilsa Zane, made it through the screening and augmentation process - either the people screening the candidates are total incompetents (something I'm not willing to rule out :P) or ONI has been sneaking its own operatives into their ranks, and Scruggs was one of them, activated to derail Hood's peace talks. I can only hope that if they do take that route, taking them down is as satisfying as it was putting the last nail into Cerberus's coffin. -- [[User:Morhek|<b><font color=indigo>Qura 'Morhek</font></b>]] [[ | ::I can't actually say with any certainty, since I have so far not read much beyond previews, but I have a vague suspicion that this is going to tie into 343i turning ONI into Cerberus - a renegade, well-funded and anti-alien paramilitary organisation that declares itself humanity's benefactor, while using extreme and unethical means behind the UNSC's back. You have ONI funding the decidedly anti-human Servants of Abiding Truth, without which the Covenant remnant probably wouldn't exist, going behind Hood's back to derail his own objectives; the transition from Parangosky to Osman to maintain a degree of philosophic continuity; Osman's decision to assassinate Halsey; and now a second Spartan going rogue, who this time, unlike Ilsa Zane, made it through the screening and augmentation process - either the people screening the candidates are total incompetents (something I'm not willing to rule out :P) or ONI has been sneaking its own operatives into their ranks, and Scruggs was one of them, activated to derail Hood's peace talks. I can only hope that if they do take that route, taking them down is as satisfying as it was putting the last nail into Cerberus's coffin. -- [[User:Morhek|<b><font color=indigo>Qura 'Morhek</font></b>]] [[halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>The Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>of Morheka</sup></font></i></u>]] 02:27, 28 February 2014 (EST) | ||
:::Scruggs' final words lend credence to the "ONI is becoming ''Halo''<nowiki>'</nowiki>s Cerberus" angle. Here's a transcript, with italics used as they appear in the issue: | :::Scruggs' final words lend credence to the "ONI is becoming ''Halo''<nowiki>'</nowiki>s Cerberus" angle. Here's a transcript, with italics used as they appear in the issue: | ||
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I was reading issue 1 and when the covenant first attack the delegates, they identify themselves as the "Guardians of the Righteous". Should this faction be placed in the info-box? Or was it already discussed that this isn't the faction attacking the delegates?--'''''[[User:Killamint|<span style="color:Black; font-family: Arial;">Killamint</span>]]''''' <small>['''''[[User talk:Killamint|<font color="Red">Comm</font>]]'''''|'''''[[Special:Contributions/Killamint|<font color="Black">Files</font>]]''''']</small> 11:13, 8 March 2014 (EST) | I was reading issue 1 and when the covenant first attack the delegates, they identify themselves as the "Guardians of the Righteous". Should this faction be placed in the info-box? Or was it already discussed that this isn't the faction attacking the delegates?--'''''[[User:Killamint|<span style="color:Black; font-family: Arial;">Killamint</span>]]''''' <small>['''''[[User talk:Killamint|<font color="Red">Comm</font>]]'''''|'''''[[Special:Contributions/Killamint|<font color="Black">Files</font>]]''''']</small> 11:13, 8 March 2014 (EST) | ||
:We | :We discussed this a while back, and the result was inconclusive - while "Guardians of the Righteous" may indeed be the name of their group, it might as well just be religious rhetoric the Elite uses to refer to himself and his allies. --[[User:Jugus|<font color="MidnightBlue"><b>Jugus</b></font>]] <small>([[User talk:Jugus|<font color="Gray">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jugus|<font color="Gray">Contribs</font>]])</small> 10:06, 9 March 2014 (EDT) | ||
::Kool. I just wanted to know. Maybe the next few issues will tell us everything we need to know. To many secrets like - who is that unknown human (& scientist) working with Gajat?--'''''[[User:Killamint|<span style="color:Black; font-family: Arial;">Killamint</span>]]''''' <small>['''''[[User talk:Killamint|<font color="Red">Comm</font>]]'''''|'''''[[Special:Contributions/Killamint|<font color="Black">Files</font>]]''''']</small> 10:59, 9 March 2014 (EDT) | ::Kool. I just wanted to know. Maybe the next few issues will tell us everything we need to know. To many secrets like - who is that unknown human (& scientist) working with Gajat?--'''''[[User:Killamint|<span style="color:Black; font-family: Arial;">Killamint</span>]]''''' <small>['''''[[User talk:Killamint|<font color="Red">Comm</font>]]'''''|'''''[[Special:Contributions/Killamint|<font color="Black">Files</font>]]''''']</small> 10:59, 9 March 2014 (EDT) | ||