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== Refit? ==
== Refit? ==
Where is the evidence that this ship had the same refit as the POA?{{Unsigned|‎108.66.164.104}}
Where is the evidence that this ship had the same refit as the POA?{{Unsigned|108.66.164.104}}
:With the exception of graphical upgrades and artistic licenses, these cruisers are nearly identical to the refitted ''Pillar of Autumn''. Additionally, all ''Halcyon''-class light cruisers were decommissioned as the war progressed. The data presumably provided by Cortana on the Autumn's successes at Reach and Installation 04 would have led Fleet Command to fund a project to make these ships active again, especially to escort their expensive new flagship. {{User:Grizzlei/Sig}}
:With the exception of graphical upgrades and artistic licenses, these cruisers are nearly identical to the refitted ''Pillar of Autumn''. Additionally, all ''Halcyon''-class light cruisers were decommissioned as the war progressed. The data presumably provided by Cortana on the Autumn's successes at Reach and Installation 04 would have led Fleet Command to fund a project to make these ships active again, especially to escort their expensive new flagship. {{User:Grizzlei/Sig}}
::Or, 343i reused the POA design from ''Reach'', polished the textures and 'upping' the polygons for the CGI scenes. Unless it can be shown what Grizzlei says is true, I would suggest we remove these conjecture information.— <span style="font-size:14px; font-family:Arial;">[[User:Subtank|<span style="color:#FF4F00;">subtank</span>]]</span>  21:40, 29 December 2012 (EST)
::Or, 343i reused the POA design from ''Reach'', polished the textures and 'upping' the polygons for the CGI scenes. Unless it can be shown what Grizzlei says is true, I would suggest we remove these conjecture information.— <span style="font-size:14px; font-family:Arial;">[[User:Subtank|<span style="color:#FF4F00;">subtank</span>]]</span>  21:40, 29 December 2012 (EST)
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::::I agree with Jugus on this one. Those differences listed above are hardly noticeable. If you were to take a look at the Song of the East, it would instantly look like a Halcyon off the back regardless of the minor differences. To me its either 343i being a lil inconsistent (or lazy) or just a classic example of refitting, like Jugus said above. The minor detail changes w/ the Halcyon class is nothing compared to the Dawn - more specifically, the Charon class, where it is 100% different and can be considered an entirely new breed (but was considered a retcon instead). The Halcyon class here looks virtually identical with nothing radically changed aside from minor structural differences and it maintains the same basic shape as the original. Its almost like saying the POA in Reach isn't a Halcyon because of the detail changes. So IMO it should remain classified as a Halcyon. Now all those "new" frigates is what should really be disputed as either being Charon-class or something entirely new. Still have til next [[Halo 4: The Essential Visual Guide|Monday]] to find out.--'''''[[User:Killamint|<span style="color:Black; font-family: Arial;">Killamint</span>]]''''' <small>['''''[[User talk:Killamint|<font color="Red">Comm</font>]]'''''|'''''[[Special:Contributions/Killamint|<font color="Black">Files</font>]]''''']</small> 13:04, 10 September 2013 (EDT)
::::I agree with Jugus on this one. Those differences listed above are hardly noticeable. If you were to take a look at the Song of the East, it would instantly look like a Halcyon off the back regardless of the minor differences. To me its either 343i being a lil inconsistent (or lazy) or just a classic example of refitting, like Jugus said above. The minor detail changes w/ the Halcyon class is nothing compared to the Dawn - more specifically, the Charon class, where it is 100% different and can be considered an entirely new breed (but was considered a retcon instead). The Halcyon class here looks virtually identical with nothing radically changed aside from minor structural differences and it maintains the same basic shape as the original. Its almost like saying the POA in Reach isn't a Halcyon because of the detail changes. So IMO it should remain classified as a Halcyon. Now all those "new" frigates is what should really be disputed as either being Charon-class or something entirely new. Still have til next [[Halo 4: The Essential Visual Guide|Monday]] to find out.--'''''[[User:Killamint|<span style="color:Black; font-family: Arial;">Killamint</span>]]''''' <small>['''''[[User talk:Killamint|<font color="Red">Comm</font>]]'''''|'''''[[Special:Contributions/Killamint|<font color="Black">Files</font>]]''''']</small> 13:04, 10 September 2013 (EDT)
:::Some of this will be answered then, and if I can clarify anything after that I'll do my best. -[[User:ScaleMaster117|ScaleMaster117]] ([[User talk:ScaleMaster117|talk]]) 18:24, 10 September 2013 (EDT)